American Politics

[PVMonger]

It has been 8 months since Biden took office. When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then? It seems like they waited for a weak president to put his plan in to attack. Biden had 8 months to figure it out but Biden didn't have a plan. He just assumed Taliban would cooperate. He should have been smart enough to get all the Americans out at least before he reduced troops further but he didn't. He should have listened to his military advisors telling him that he was moving to fast. But in his defense he didn't remember these discussions because he is senile. This catastrophe is totally Biden. You can't blame Trump or anyone else. Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives. The whole world know Biden screwed up and it is an embarrassment to the USA.

Instead of asking this ridiculous question "When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then?" , why not look it up? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57933979 The answer is obvious. The Taliban didn't control enough of the country, as any military person could have told you.

But if the Taliban didn't control much of the country when the trump negotiations were over, how come they do now? One reason is that the former guy didn't negotiate for the Taliban to remain in place until our withdrawal. WTF? Trump didn't negotiate that?

So the upshot is that trump's useless negotiating skills let the Taliban take over the entire country without having to fire a shot (relatively speaking). What kind of lame negotiator allows that?

By the way, do you have a source for your "Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives" statement?

[Travv]

There are numerous Muslim countries for these Afghans to live in. There is no reason to force these Afghans to live in an oppressive racist country like the USA, per BLM. Give them a flight to Mecca and let Saudi Arabia pay for their welfare bennies and Section 8 housing. Think the Saudis can afford a little charity for the Afghan pilgrims to Mecca? As a bonus, US citizens don't have to worry about these "refugees" flying an airliner into a skyscraper, which is what started this whole mess. The "Invade the World; Invite the World" strategy of George W. Bush is a disaster for the average American.

I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?

[Cali Guy]

Then what are the Biden critics on FUX News Channel and elsewhere demanding should have been done with them after Trump reduced our troop level to a paltry 2500 five days before leaving office, probably his obedient response to an order from the Taliban to do so, refusing to work with and coordinate any "plan" with the incoming administration, Trump obediently having gotten those 5,000 Taliban terrorists released from prison on the Taliban's orders but against the wishes of the Afghanistan government, the president of Afghanistan fleeing in terror and all the Warlords and local officials taking Taliban bribes to do nothing and look the other way while the Taliban seized control of Kabul without firing a single shot?

Just put them on a plane and fly around non stop until they die of old age? Set up a new Witness Protection I.D. and life for them in a cave?

It has been 8 months since Biden took office. When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then? It seems like they waited for a weak president to put his plan in to attack. Biden had 8 months to figure it out but Biden didn't have a plan. He just assumed Taliban would cooperate. He should have been smart enough to get all the Americans out at least before he reduced troops further but he didn't. He should have listened to his military advisors telling him that he was moving to fast. But in his defense he didn't remember these discussions because he is senile. This catastrophe is totally Biden. You can't blame Trump or anyone else. Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives. The whole world know Biden screwed up and it is an embarrassment to the USA.

[Beijing4987]

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[Xpartan]

When CNN is calling the Biden admin out for their incompetence, you know they f'd up huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBE9OqILRrk

Nah. It's just that free media don't spare those who fuck up. Dems, reps, Cuomo, Biden, Trump, doesn't matter. They report.

I understand that for people who have volunteered to twist their brains into believing liars and cheerleaders from the likes of FOX or OANN, this is a hard concept to grasp. But the fact remains. Dealing with Taliban was cheered on by all Trumpies out there while the Red Menace was in office. Unilateral withdrawals, base closings, leaving caches of weapons for advancing Taliban, all was good.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trum...tan-jim-hanson

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-sig...-cautious-tone

Where in their contracts did it say "permanent residency and lifetime welfare in America"? SNIPg
And all you can think about is filling America with more third world shitholers on welfare. LOL.

No, all I can think of is helping our Afghan allies (who we asked to risk their lives for our own strategic goals) to stay alive.

But it's telling how you and your ilk believe that every immigrant coming to the USA goes on welfare (and "lifetime welfare" no less).

This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states.

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.

Of course he doesn't. But is it that surprising?

Their own Dear Leader told a military widow who JUST lost her husband that he "knew what he signed up for. ".

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...signed-up-for/

Trump and trumpies -- a match made in a dumpster.

I will note that democrats have decriminalized knowingly passing on HIV in states they control.

Another tired and boring lie.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/polit...nts/index.html

[Kadeem]

Not oil from Russia or the Middle East or do you like to hand your money over to people actively working against your interests!

Republicans want to produce oil and gas domestically but the democrats including Biden wants to get our oil from Russia and OPEC which are against the USA. You support this.

Most of the solar panels are made in China. Most of the lithium for batteries for electric cars and electric storage is controlled by China. The democrats are obviously making China economy boom.

We are handing our economy and money to our adversaries. Smart move Biden.

[Chris P]

The era was so good that it took a pale flunkie, Nixon with awful TV debate performances to thwart an essential third term by a hair

Actually it was democrat election rigging that thwarted a third term. Some things never change.

[Chris P]

This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states.

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.

A typical non-sequitur from the DD (Democrat Douche).

Let me make it simple: non-citizens who freely chose to work for the US in Afghanistan, at good rates of pay, are not entitled to permanent residency and lifetime welfare for themselves (and their extended families via chain migration) in the USA.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with LEOs or firefighters being killed. Only someone with their head in the communist clouds could write such nonsense. Stop insulting good Americans doing tough jobs you would never do by comparing them with third world shithole welfare flunkies.

[Chris P]

Using this same logic, Chrisp thinks that it would be fine if willfully refusing a COVID vaccine would result in a COVID patient being refused medical treatment and also to pay for the medical expenses of all that he / she infected. "They knew the risks and it didn't include free medical care".

No, that's not using the same logic. Or indeed any logic. But speaking of infecting people (with a disease that causes real harm) I will note that democrats have decriminalized knowingly passing on HIV in states they control. Probably because much of their base is already infected. Which would you rather contract. Covid or aids?

[Paulie97]

Two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, four deviled eggs (all homemade), and two cartons of milk. Home ownership, strong unions, stat ay home wives, flourishing GI bill, mind blowing golden age of cimena, and that was the 50's, Ike. We also saw the inauguration of Civil Rights in highly courageous films like Giant, iconic and immortal. Look it up. The era was so good that it took a pale flunkie, Nixon with awful TV debate performances to thwart an essential third term by a hair, something that is most hard to do.

Afghanistan? Well, there's a principle few politicians understand. If you have an angry pitt bull by the ears, don't let go. It will be a black mark on the Biden legacy that conservatives will harp on to try and get back in power. There's already been positives. More positives and negatives are to come. Opponents will minimize or dismiss the former, while howling about that latter. That's politics.

That said hopefully we call all agree that two roast beef sandwiches, deviled eggs, pegan pie and fresh milk sound very good, and all for a hard working man. Wink.

[GDreams]

Right, because the vast amounts of electricity required to power those cars, and to make the batteries (which need to be replaced regularly) will be produced by. Rainbows and fluffy kittens.

Not oil from Russia or the Middle East or do you like to hand your money over to people actively working against your interests!

[GDreams]

Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?

Afghanistan has zero strategic importance yet trillions of dollars were spent on it for what? Bush failed in Afghanistan to capture Bin Laden, there was no other purpose to be there. So what is your point. What difference does it make if the Taliban are in control? The money spent on fighting the Taliban would have been much more wisely spent on American health care or social services, even maintaining departments to monitor pandemic risks and implement action plans.

[EihTooms]

I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?

Exactly. And Repubs can't possibly fault Biden for the Taliban's positive announcement regarding women's rights and other social issues even if it will be either according to Islamic Law or the Taliban's version of it.

I hear for the Taliban that means abortion is forbidden, gay marriage is forbidden, vaccines are forbidden, a rejection of science, no separation of church and state, religion taught in schools...need I go on?

[PVMonger]

We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states.

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.

[Chris P]

I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?

Where in their contracts did it say "permanent residency and lifetime welfare in America"?

The scenes at the Fall of Kabul will go down with the Fall of Saigon as an abject humiliation for America. In fact it is worse: the South Vietnamese army at least held out for 2 years after US military withdrawal. The Afghan National Army couldn't even hold out for 2 weeks. The Taliban have now surrounded the airport, and the Biden administration is having to beg them to permit Americans to leave.

Biden presided over this disastrous humiliation, which has weakened and embarrassed the US.

And all you can think about is filling America with more third world shitholers on welfare. LOL. Election fraud, fake news, humiliation, failure, third world invasion: a fitting end to our fallen country.