American Politics

[Xpartan]

Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?

Could you make it easier for me douche to understand why you can't turn off the TV on your own?

[Xpartan]

We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?

[Smoothy]

When CNN is calling the Biden admin out for their incompetence, you know they f'd up huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBE9OqILRrk

[EihTooms]

We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

Then what are the Biden critics on FUX News Channel and elsewhere demanding should have been done with them after Trump reduced our troop level to a paltry 2500 five days before leaving office, probably his obedient response to an order from the Taliban to do so, refusing to work with and coordinate any "plan" with the incoming administration, Trump obediently having gotten those 5,000 Taliban terrorists released from prison on the Taliban's orders but against the wishes of the Afghanistan government, the president of Afghanistan fleeing in terror and all the Warlords and local officials taking Taliban bribes to do nothing and look the other way while the Taliban seized control of Kabul without firing a single shot?

Just put them on a plane and fly around non stop until they die of old age? Set up a new Witness Protection I.D. and life for them in a cave?

[EihTooms]

The minute you Democratic and all who voted for him apologize for Clinton not getting rid of Bin Laden. Two can play the partisan finger pointing game.

Get rid of him based on what evidence Clinton had as president? You do have to explain to the world why the USA killed the son of a wealthy, well placed Middle East businessman and popular member of that family. The CIA, FBI and other intel agencies did not determine Bin Laden was (likely) responsible for the October 2000 USS Cole attack until June of 2001. What did the POTUS at that time do about it?

[EihTooms]

Biden failed to mention Taliban is giving women's rights according to Islam Law. Which means they don't get any rights. Biden begging to Taliban just shows weakness. Biden showed the world that USA leadership is weak and can be taken advantage of. Taliban first to do it. Took them 3 or 4 days. Terrorists are in hog heaven with Biden presidency. They can just walk into USA from Mexico and we have another 9-11. There is a reason Taliban didn't try taking over all of Afghanistan when Trump cut troops to 2500 because Trump would have retaliated. They waited for a weak spineless president that begs Taliban to let US citizens leave.

Democrats and Republicans both acknowledge this.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemoc...2441651522306/

"You're not gonna need an 'exit strategy'."
"As soon as we leave it's all gonna blow up anyway."
- the very strong and threatening BEGotiator, Donald J. Trump.

[PVMonger]

We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

Using this same logic, Chrisp thinks that it would be fine if willfully refusing a COVID vaccine would result in a COVID patient being refused medical treatment and also to pay for the medical expenses of all that he / she infected. "They knew the risks and it didn't include free medical care".

[PVMonger]

Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?

You are saying that the former guy did not negotiate with the Taliban without getting the Afghan government involved.

You are saying that the former guy did not require the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners.

You are saying that the terms that the former guy "negotiated" with the Taliban did not force the Taliban to not acquire additional territory prior to the US withdrawal.

Because if that's what you are saying, I can prove it is a lie.

What I find laughable is that the QOP would have pilloried Biden no matter what. If he would have said "we going to stay in Afghanistan until we can leave with honor", you fascists would have called him a warmonger.

[PVMonger]

Just wondering where you got that Eisenhower was so great for jobs creation of any kind for any demographic. You have repeated it a few times here and in your harassing PMs to me. BTW, I never said "the 1950's were atricious." I said Eisenhower's economy was atrocious. Hey, I like roast beef sandwiches and even ate a few during the Eisenhower years. But then, I ate a few during every president's term since Ike as well.

And I did not post that "atrocious" message here. I wrote it in a PM reply to your PM asking me what I had against Eisenhower's economy. LOL. You know, the reply you sent several harassing PMs about "not reading" it? Clearly a lie.

Anyway, back to Repub potus economies vs Dem potus economies from FDR/Truman to Biden, the link below is an easy to read general overview of the topic including various important factors like GPD growth, Jobs Creation, Recessions, Deficits, etc..

The fascists who reply will first deride wikipedia. But don't post any other sources about the economies of each President (even though those sources exist) because the fascists will yell fake news (even though they haven't read the sources. That's because they didn't hear it on their one-true-news-source: Fux "News".

[Chris P]

Tucker Carlson (and Laura Ingraham) don't seem to think taking care of the Afghans we left behind is really the USA's responsibility at all.

Tucker Carlson Slams U.S. Housing Afghanistan Refugees: 'First We Invade, Then We Are Invaded'
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...nvaded-1619954

We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

[EihTooms]

You truly have no credibility as you can only rehearse the same mantras over and over. That isn't debate, it's called filibuster, and you'd be stoked for it constantly, anywhere but in a monger forum. That's why you are here. We know Trump is an idiot, but you day after day shriek about Republicans causing all the "crashes" while ignoring Wilson and Truman's recessions. You mock Ike calling the 50's "atrocious," while ignoring all the gains for common people, especially those unionized and in blue collar fields. It was an age of the guy off to work with his lunch box, two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, home ownership, and situations where the wife could afford to stay home. You praise Jimmy Carter even though he left behind a recession and was booted out of office after one term in an embarrassing landslide defeat. And much of a case can be made for the Reagan years, especially seeing that he for much of the time had to deal with a Democratic Congress, which meant compromise.

Like it or not Biden has egg on his face with Afghanistan, as well his hesitancy with voting rights reform as the modern era Jim Crow nonsense digs in it's heels. That all reality for someone who wishes a balanced perspective.

P.S. Stop harassing me in my PM box. I told you that I'm on vacation, but of course your self-centeredness and insistence on being right all the time takes precedence.

Just wondering where you got that Eisenhower was so great for jobs creation of any kind for any demographic. You have repeated it a few times here and in your harassing PMs to me. BTW, I never said "the 1950's were atricious." I said Eisenhower's economy was atrocious. Hey, I like roast beef sandwiches and even ate a few during the Eisenhower years. But then, I ate a few during every president's term since Ike as well.

And I did not post that "atrocious" message here. I wrote it in a PM reply to your PM asking me what I had against Eisenhower's economy. LOL. You know, the reply you sent several harassing PMs about "not reading" it? Clearly a lie.

Anyway, back to Repub potus economies vs Dem potus economies from FDR/Truman to Biden, the link below is an easy to read general overview of the topic including various important factors like GPD growth, Jobs Creation, Recessions, Deficits, etc.

Too bad they didn't go back a full 100 years, the time frame I like to use for these comparisons (Wilson was gone by then). Including Hoover and the Repubs before him after 1921. That would have made the already crap results for Repubs vs Dems ever so much worse and clearer to see why, because those pre FDR Repubs' economic philosophy and agenda is the template for what Repubs have loved to do over and over again ever since. You know, the policies that produced, presided over and exacerbated The Great Repub Crash and Depression of the late 1920s/early 1930s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S....can_presidents

As you can see, Eisenhower racked up three Recessions in just 8 years and earned one of the lowest ratings for average annual Jobs Creatiion for any president since such data is available, WAY down there with Trump, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. They don't show data for roast beef sandwiches though.

Oh, and Carter's rating on that critical factor is among the TOP 3-4 of the past 100 years, all Democrats, of course, with Biden already rating VERY highly on that factor. Truman is rated highly as well despite his brief and relatively insignificant post-WWII recession while paying off those WWII debts.

As usual, Obama's historically unprecedented positive jobs creation record is unfairly marred by the timing of G.W. Bush's colossal job destruction Niagara Falls that was just cresting for its biggest crash as Obama took the Oath of Office in January 2009.

But even with that unfairness in the mix Obama's rating surpasses that of Trump, the Bushes and Eisenhower. It goes without saying it would have beat the hell out of Hoover's too, if they had gone back a full 100 years to show a remarkably consistent pattern of Repub economic under performance and disaster vs Dem economic recovery, growth and expansion right up to this very day as I like to do whenever the topic is brought up by others as you did here and in your PMs to me.

[Kadeem]

Oh. Looks like Biden managed to at least get an agreement from the Taliban to make a positive public statement regarding women's rights. Much more thanTrump got. Trump was only concerned about them please not shooting at us when we fled the country under his "leadership."

Taliban says women can be very active in society. A watching world is skeptical.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...clares-amnesty

Biden failed to mention Taliban is giving women's rights according to Islam Law. Which means they don't get any rights. Biden begging to Taliban just shows weakness. Biden showed the world that USA leadership is weak and can be taken advantage of. Taliban first to do it. Took them 3 or 4 days. Terrorists are in hog heaven with Biden presidency. They can just walk into USA from Mexico and we have another 9-11. There is a reason Taliban didn't try taking over all of Afghanistan when Trump cut troops to 2500 because Trump would have retaliated. They waited for a weak spineless president that begs Taliban to let US citizens leave.

Democrats and Republicans both acknowledge this.

[EihTooms]

Tucker Carlson (and Laura Ingraham) don't seem to think taking care of the Afghans we left behind is really the USA's responsibility at all.

Tucker Carlson Slams U.S. Housing Afghanistan Refugees: 'First We Invade, Then We Are Invaded'
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...nvaded-1619954

[Elvis 2008]

When will George W. Bush and everyone who voted for him apologize for that predictably failed war?

The minute you Democratic and all who voted for him apologize for Clinton not getting rid of Bin Laden. Two can play the partisan finger pointing game.

[Elvis 2008]

Sooooo, what you are saying is that trump didn't negotiate an American withdrawal from Afghanistan?

Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?