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10-17-23 20:33 #13312
Posts: 1807Hi Spidy, I'm not gaslighting you. I'm deprogramming you. Either your memory failed you in your original post on the "trillion dollar" coin, or you're living in some kind of Orwellian world where night is day and yes means no. I'm almost sure it's the former, but figure a little deprogramming never hurt no one, so why not just in case.
Here's Carlos Mucha's twitter thread, which I posted earlier to show why I believe he's a Democrat.
https://twitter.com/mucha_carlos?lang=en
He suggested Democrats scour Georgia for eligible but not registered voters before the Senate runoffs; believed Proposition 13 in California was a bad idea; believed illegal immigrant children separated from their parents deserve a break; heartily approved of a Lincoln Project commercial to "push every button in Trump's abnormal brain";wanted Speaker Pelosi to require House members to wear masks; is on Ukraine's side in the war; believed Biden should push a plan to encourage younger people to vote; praises government for GPS, Medicare, the FDIC, and providing electricity and criticizes those who associate that with socialism; favors measures to prevent climate change; favored "AmeriCare", which would be akin to Medicare for All; praised a Capitol policeman who protected Congressmen on January 6; favored body cams for "every interaction" with the public; was a fan of Modern Monetary Theory; favored fair treatment of Palestinians in the workplace; believed in N-95, KN-95 and KF-94 masks;[b] believed that it's shocking that no one credits socialism for the great success of GPS which he believes is a great example of government working efficiently and competently; couldn't believe people are trying to put Trump back in the White House; said "it's crazy that a 3% wealth tax on billionaires is politically unthinkable yet there's already a 100% estate tax on the poor and nobody cares" ;and said "McConnell has learned through years of experience that neither he nor the GOP Senate Caucus will ever pay a political price for obstructing a Democratic President & then blaming them for not getting anything done".
Like my daddy said, "if it looks like a Democrat, and it walks like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, well then, it's a Democrat. " I actually agree with some of those tweets. But you'd be hard pressed to label the man as a Republican when you look at the totality of what he's said. Maybe he was a Libertarian who voted for Ron Paul. There are left leaning Libertarians. Tooms is a Democrat who I believe voted for Ronald Reagan.
And in any event you and Tooms are using trivia about the "progenitor" to mask your original claim that somehow it's Republicans who were foolishly using the platinum trillion dollar coin to bypass Republican opposition to the increasing the debt ceiling. That just doesn't make much sense. And I wouldn't care whether the statement that he's a republican came from someone quoted in the left-biased New York Magazine's Intelligencer or the right-biased New York Post. Mucha's political beliefs aren't consistent with a Republican's. Tooms admits as much in his last post.
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10-17-23 11:28 #13311
Posts: 5385Excellent work, Spidy
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Which suggests at least a trace of "Dem" in him somewhere. Traditionally, Repubs oppose ANY response or remedy for their horrific policy and stewardship ideas and results unless it is certain to produce far worse results than the ones they created.
So it is refreshing to discover one (1) Repub who found in him the courage to consider a remedy that is merely silly and benign compared to the colossal damage his Repub Party had hoped to inflict on the country and the rest of the planet with their repeated threats.
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10-17-23 10:42 #13310
Posts: 1092ACT 3: Truth comes to light, the "Democrat Patsy", is indeed a...
ACT 3:
Thirdly, (for those of you still reading) what if I were to tell you, Tiny 12's "Democrat patsy", is indeed a REPUBLICAN! Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, the Altanta Lawyer is a REPUBLICAN!.
Here, undeniable/irrefutable evidence, he's as REPUBLICAN, as pimple on Mitch's ass:
Originally Posted by Intelligencer
The Intelligencer, clearly identifies Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, as a REPUBLICAN. You, yourself proclaim him as the progenitor/creator of the coin idea (ONLY because you thought he was a Democrat).
So thanks to your "two nobodies" post, I began looking at the creator of the coin idea, not as singular creator, but rather as creators of the coin idea.
Now that we have established, Beowulf is Republican and a progenitor/creator of the coin idea, I designated him as exhibit (1b), as one part of the two (2) headed monster (as it were).
Again, thanks to EihTooms and another Tiny 12 post, from which I took evidence from both their Wikipedia links (both below), to again show and create exhibit (1a) and corresponding correlation to exhibit (1b).
It bears repeating again. EihTooms, was spot on when he said:
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Here exhibit (1a) and (1b) are linked to coin idea/concept, using Tiny 12's very own Wiki link from one of his early posts:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
If I recall, you said, "...I doubt Beowulf and his band of brothers had ever heard of Bo Gritz. And from my post you should know I think it's a nutty idea...to pawn the blame off on anyone but a Democrat.". Well, it's funny how, when actually meaningful FACTS are presented, it just amazing whom really sounds "nutty".
Conclusions:
From ACTs 1 thru 3, the evidence provided, incontrovertibly shows, Bo Gritz and Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, are inextricably linked as the progenitors/creators of the coin idea.
Mr. Gritz and Mr. Mucha, are linked as "closet" Republican (exhibit 1a) and Republican (exhibit 1b), respectively. They are very much at the genesis/center of the trillion dollar coin idea, despite, your attempt to gaslight them, by implying they were "nobodies", only emboldened me to dig further, for the truth and real FACTS. Tiny 12, I think, when you gaslight your own findings, w/r these so called "nobodies", was an obvious dead-give-away. Thanks!
So take your pick, Tiny 12...Republican 1a or 1b (or both as I have done), makes no difference, as all roads (ie. FACTS/truths), lead to REPUBLICANS, as the creators of the coin idea!
Most assuredly, I can now proclaim (for the very first time), the progenitor(s)/creator(s) of the trillion dollar coin idea is/are indeed REPUBLICAN(S) (or if you prefer, conservative right wingers).
End of ACT 3 of 3
PS: I could have gone for the short version, but this was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more fun, uncovering yet another REPUBLICAN at the center of "nutty", but not yet dismissed idea!
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10-17-23 10:26 #13309
Posts: 1092ACT 2: "Patsy" found, but declared a "nobody", after flip-flop
ACT 2:
Secondly, so after denying the real deal (in Bo Gritz) and a couple attempts at proclaiming you'd found the "patsy", as the "original" progenitor/creator of the coin idea, you final settled on Beowulf aka.Carlos Mucha, as your "patsy". Now I'm sure you said to yourself, "...the only thing left to do, is to declare him, a Democrat. But how?"
Enter stage left, a Twitter link/feed, by a Carlos Mucha, which was meant to make us think what exactly? Make us think he is a Democrat...maybe?
Here:
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Even with such weak evidence, the urge to fulfill the quest, was so great, you proclaimed him your "Democrat Pasty" anyway. I get it! In the face of EihTooms' irrefutable evidence of the real progenitor of the coin idea, a right-wing conservative (aka.Repub), was just too much to take. Naturally, it didn't sit well with you, thus needed to put forth a counter-punch and push-back w/r to EihTooms' post.
Hence a sly and wildly hastened crowning of Beowulf as your "patsy", as a Democrat, with not much to back it up, but a suspect tweeter feed and some speculation, you declared you'd found your "Democrat".
Now what comes next (from Tiny 12), is truly bizarre!
Beowulf goes from being "crowned" as The Democrat King of the coin idea, to being relegated to a "nobody". Why is he and Bo Gritz, suddenly declared as nobodies (...I ask myself)? More classic gaslighting?
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
How is it now your flip-flopping and gaslighting the material relevance of own findings w/r to Beowulf? Someone you'd just finished proclaiming as the "Democrat King" of the coin idea. Very peculiar indeed!
Since I sensed a bit of "desperation" in your post, I wasn't about to wait around for the BS answer and decided, I'd best get to digging as to why the flip-flop on Beowulf.
No doubt, most of you can imagine what I found next. (...kkkk!)
End of ACT 2 of 3
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10-17-23 10:26 #13308
Posts: 1092ACT 1: The Quest to find the "Democrat patsy" to the coin idea
NOTE: Feel free to skip to ACT 3, for those whom are not concerned with the debate minutia that has taken place w/r to FINDING the progenitor/creator of the trillion dollar coin idea.
ACT 1:
Firstly, it was YOU (Tiny 12) on several occasions, that gleefully went about proclaiming the Democrats were the progenitor/creator of trillion dollar coin idea.
For the record, all your proclamations about the progenitor/creator were INCORRECT and FALSE! I never even broached the creation of the coin idea, until you open your mouth and proclaimed, it was the Democrats!
Turns out, I was perfectly CORRECT, in thinking that the idea for the coin was a "dreamt up idea" or a "minted idea", in heads of REPUBLICANS, when I asked why Republicans think the coin idea, would solve the debt crisis? But read on, as the facts, evidence and findings will prove, the creation of he coin has Republican foot prints all over it. And I also address some of your non-factual claims.
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Yes, it's so obvious, to anyone reading it, I simply asked a question. Unlike yourself, I did NOT make unfounded statements about the origins to the trillion dollar coin idea, in a ridiculous attempt to find, your smoking gun and/or your "Democrat Patsy" (as it were).
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
But it didn't stop you from initially proclaiming Mr. Krugman as the progenitor/creator of the coin idea.
Here, first asserting Krugman:
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
So after realizing Krugman, wasn't going to fit the bill as your "Democrat patsy", you hastily trolled around (I imagined) for your next victim. Where you stumbled upon Beowulf aka.Carlos Mucha, a Atlanta, GA, lawyer.
And here, you proclaimed Beowulf, progenitor/creator here:
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Here:
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
From here, your denial just got worse and may have lead to, at best some sloppy investigate work, at worse it was incorrect and misleading information.
End of ACT 1 of 3
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10-17-23 05:12 #13307
Posts: 5385Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
Yep. Thanks, Joe.
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10-17-23 05:06 #13306
Posts: 1912If you don't know, then you better ask somebody
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
I happen to know an ex-pat from USA that has a wife, child and built a country complex near where his wife is from. Does not care that is in here name. Chump change to him. Some of us have it. Some of us don't. My farm plans are to raise buffalo. The kind you eat, not the ones that post on ISG. We have enough of them already. 555.
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10-17-23 03:29 #13305
Posts: 5385LOL. Nice try.
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Is that what you agree with me about, Tiny?
Because if it is, then there is also no reason for you to be further impressed by Repubs not chiming in to agree with a far less damaging Dem response to their spectacularly disastrous Repub behavior, as in your apparent praise of them for their trypical Repub Deadbeat Do Nothing Know Nothingness here:
Contrary to what you posted, "every Repub and their dog," there aren't ANY Republicans on that list.
When firefighters have to take an ax to doors and property set ablaze by arsonists in order to possibly control the fire and salvage some of the threatened life and property, it is not a case of firefighters "popularizing" and "promoting" the idea of taking axes to doors and property but fully and completely on the arsonists for triggering such a response, right?
And there is nothing to praise the arsonists who set the property ablaze for simply because there weren't "ANY" arsonists chiming their support or standing there and handing an ax to the firefighters to help them respond to and deal with their act of arson, right?
And if Navy SEALs swoop into a compound to rescue 100 hostages taken by terrorists and in doing so they shoot and kill one of the terrorist guards, the guard's wife he was hiding behind while shooting back and even wind up inadvertently getting one of the hostages killed in the process after successfully rescuing the other 99, you wouldn't dare to suggest the Navy SEAL rescuers were the ones "popularizing" and "promoting" the idea of shooting and killing guards, guards wives and hostages and instead you would fully and completely put the blame for all of it on the terrorist hostage-takers, right?
Furthermore, you would never ever praise the terrorist hostage-takers simply because not "ANY" of them bothered to chime in or lend a hand of support for the Navy SEAL rescue operation, right?
I'm just checking to make sure we really are in total agreement about this Magic Coin idea regarding Dem vs Repub responsibility for that Magic Coin Idea so I can modulate my celebration of it accordingly. LOL.
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10-17-23 03:14 #13304
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
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10-17-23 01:22 #13303
Posts: 684Pig farm investment
Goo luck hanging on the ho you gave the farm to. You will never be family in Asia.
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10-16-23 21:46 #13302
Posts: 2580Taipei is next
Senator Tom Cotton pointed out on Sunday, Kabul didn't collapse on Trump's watch, Russia didn't invade Ukraine, and Hamas didn't launch a historic terror attack on Israel.
Thanks Dirty Joe.
Love Xi.
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10-16-23 19:52 #13301
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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10-16-23 19:48 #13300
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
The corporation would open up a whole new can of worms, the dreaded Form 5471 for controlled foreign corporations. You better have a good accountant and an asset worth enough to justify paying his fees, or you'll eat up the value of what you own in accounting fees in a hurry. Actually reporting the corporation on your Form 8938 is a piece of cake, you just check a box. But the 5471, if you tried to fill it out yourself, would be an exercise in extreme masochism. One way around this would be to use a "check the box" election to treat the corporation as a disregarded entity, if you own the entire corporation, although your Thai sweetie might not go for that. Then you'd have to file a Form 8858, but that's a lot easier to do than the 5471, and the penalties if you screw it up are a lot lower. For either route, Form 5471 or 8858, you're going to need financial statements for the corporation to fill out the forms.
This is an illustration of why I hate the politicians and lawyers who are responsible for our tax code.
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10-16-23 19:07 #13299
Posts: 1092"The Real Indoctrination"...the One Behind Closed Doors (Part #2)
I wanted to circle-back to your opening line and add some additional thoughts, to my previous post, as a separate, but inclusive response/post:
You Said:
Originally Posted by CrowExplorer [View Original Post]
Secondly, while I acknowledge that your entitled to feel the way you do, I think your outrage, hate or dislike towards StoryBook Hour (SBH) readings, is misplaced, unfounded and simply I feel, is just overblown right-wing media hype and propaganda.
If the parents of the kids see fit to take their kids to a SBH reading hour, who are you to say otherwise? Conversely, while I may find parents who take their kids to a "Nazi" style book-ban/book-burning event/protest, very distasteful, disgusting, immoral, unethical, stupid and pathetic, I (and/or the left) will still defend their right to do so.
Thirdly, when you consider the millions of sexual abuse cases, against a trusted and venerated institution, that the right hold very dear to their identity, you begin to understand the hypocrisy, behind the right-wing's hate for SBH reading hour.
What institution is that you ask?...that would be the Church and the clergymen (and women), priests, bishops and cardinals that hide their sexual perversions under the "Cloak of the Good Book/Bible" and the "Holy Church".
It's appalling and staggering, at the amount of empirical data, papers, articles, documented and reported cases of the church's sex abuses worldwide, spanning decades, that have directly (and/or indirectly), led to the ruining of millions of lives. So forgive me if I find, the right-wing attacks on SBH readings, just a bunch of sanctimonious BS.
May I suggest, you should be more worried about your kids going to church than your kids attending a (albeit prenatally supervised) SBH reading.
The data and the enormous number of sexual abuse cases, perpetrated by the church, suggests and indicates, that parents should be more concerned about, the men dressed in black white and red robes verses the men dressed in hot-pink drag.
Fun fact for you (well perhaps not fun):- Sexual abuse in the Church, worldwide over several decades, are estimated in the millions.
- The global scale of child sexual abuse in the Church has skyrocketed over the last three decades and still remains ingrained in the Church ethos, after some 100+ years.
- The church and their clergymen/priesthood remain the #1 sexual abusers and offenders of children, worldwide.
In closing:
Personally, I'd be more worried about my kids suffering harm, from the men in robes reading from "the good book", as opposed to, the men dressed in women's clothing reading at a SBH.
So CrowExplorer, if you truly hate the "idea of children being indoctrinated" and "the idea of children being exposed to sexual freaks", then may I also suggest you take a look in your own backyard (as it were) and direct (most or a majority of) your outrage and concerns more towards, the real indoctrination, going on be behind the closed doors of your local priesthood, diocese, and/or church.
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10-16-23 16:20 #13298
Posts: 1912Cash and Crypto are the way to go if you want real financial freedom!
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]