American Politics

[EihTooms]

It appears that only the Republicans have patriotism in the USA now. This forum proves that. Not sure why democrats aren't patriotic anymore. I guess supporting BLM and Anitifa eliminates their patriotism.

Your lord, savior and most popular Republican so-called president of all time (among Republicans), Donald J. Trump, surveyed the graves of USA soldiers who died defending American democracy and was credibly reported to have referred to the dead as "suckers and losers" for having done so.

Now he is working mightily to characterize his violent mob of Capitol Building-storming and desecrating insurrectionists who attacked, maimed and killed cops as well as some among their own mob on their way to overturning a free and fair election, overthrowing American democracy and assassinating duly elected officials (including his own VP) as "patriots" and the ones that died during the commission of their deadly anti-American crime as noble "martyrs."

Let's just say your assessment of who and what is patriotic vs unpatriotic to America is just as worthless as your assessment of typical and consistent Dem economic gains, recoveries and expansions vs typical and consistent Great Repub Crashes, Depressions, Recessions and massive USA job losses.

[PVMonger]

The reason California has a huge population is the illegals who have swarmed there over the past 50 years, had anchor babies, and used them for chain migration to get the extended family in. Heritage Americans, on the other hand, are fleeing the high taxes, crime, anti-white hate and affirmative action legislation.

Let's go our separate ways. We'll take the heritage Americans and First and Second Amendment; you can have the Guatemalan goblins, hate speech laws, feminism and socialism, and we'll see who's doing better in 20 years.

This is the first time I've heard this term.

My initial research came up with https://medium.com/@dgbarnes/the-her...-e330a0947603. The best quote from the article is "Heritage Americans are so shallow in personality that they seek out things to shape them."

Further research yielded this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ancestry. The best quote was "Although USA Census data indicates "American ancestry" is most commonly self-reported in the Deep South, the Upland South, and Appalachia."

In other words, "heritage Americans" are insecure hillbillies. In other words, trumpers. ROFL.

[Villainy]

The reason California has a huge population is the illegals who have swarmed there over the past 50 years, had anchor babies, and used them for chain migration to get the extended family in. Heritage Americans, on the other hand, are fleeing the high taxes, crime, anti-white hate and affirmative action legislation.

Let's go our separate ways. We'll take the heritage Americans and First and Second Amendment; you can have the Guatemalan goblins, hate speech laws, feminism and socialism, and we'll see who's doing better in 20 years.

It is rather remarkable to me that someone who think he is such a patriot, doesn't know anything about US history. Those illegals you are so concerned about are the equivalent of the peoples who came here 100's of years ago. Irish, Italians, Polish, Germans, Russians, Chinese. They all came here to make a better life for their families. They were willing to work hard not to become rich but to give their children a safe place to grow up and to prosper. They made incredible sacrifices working 2 or 3 jobs, getting no sleep just so their kids could be Americans. Those 'illegals' you are so concerned about are doing the same thing except a bunch of you clowns wanted to limit their access to the American dream. As Bill Clinton used to say. "I got mine, you are on your own."

I'm a heritage American, at least on my father's side. A lot of us are very selective in who we live near. And I'm not a fan of living near White Supremacists or Hillbillies. So, you take your attitudes, your guns and your oil and build a wall around your little land. Just don't ask for any help. Because you're on your own.

[Paulie97]

The colonists were British "subjects", not citizens.

The term "citizen" wasn't in use at the time in Britain. They were all "subjects" of the crown. Your typical colonist considered themselves to be English.

They were affected by British law but they had no say in it. That was partly why they rebelled.

This part is true as the colonists didn't have representatives in Parliament.

[PVMonger]

The reason California has a huge population is the illegals who have swarmed there over the past 50 years, had anchor babies, and used them for chain migration to get the extended family in. Heritage Americans, on the other hand, are fleeing the high taxes, crime, anti-white hate and affirmative action legislation.

Let's go our separate ways. We'll take the heritage Americans and First and Second Amendment; you can have the Guatemalan goblins, hate speech laws, feminism and socialism, and we'll see who's doing better in 20 years.

Fine. We'll take all the people of color and all the immigrants. You can have all of the white supremacists. The simple facts are that there won't be anybody left in your utopia who will work in slaughterhouses or pick your crops for minimum wage. No more cooks, busboys, garbage collectors, hospital orderlies, janitors, etc. Good luck in finding low wage workers. We have them all and we're going to treat them better.

You can have all the guns you want. We're going to build a wall around you and, because walls work (your words) nothing will get into your utopia nor out of it.

Without the "red state drag" on the our economy, our economy will prosper. Yours, on the other hand, without the money you have always received from the feds, will wither. Unless, of course, you (gasp) raise taxes.

You will eliminate all regulations on all businesses so they will be free to pollute you rivers, lakes and groundwater. Have fun drinking the bottled water that you mock us for drinking.

20 years? Right.

[Jckgmn]

Where were they born? My understanding is the vast majority were British citizens born in the British colonies.

The colonists were British "subjects", not citizens. They were affected by British law but they had no say in it. That was partly why they rebelled.

George Washington born in Virginia.

John Adams born in Mass.

Thomas Jefferson born in Virginia.

James Madison born in Virginia.

John Hancock born in Mass.

Patrick Henry born in Virginia.

I didn't research more but I'm pretty sure they were all born in the colonies.

[Chris P]

Where were they born? My understanding is the vast majority were British citizens born in the British colonies.

The colonies were not part of Britain, which was the entire point that Washington and co were making. If they had been part of Britain, they would have had representation in the British parliament.

[Chris P]

Lol. "fleeing"? California has had roughly 1.5 times the population of Texas, 2 times the population of Florida and 20+ times the population of Idaho since forever and for plenty of very good reasons.

The reason California has a huge population is the illegals who have swarmed there over the past 50 years, had anchor babies, and used them for chain migration to get the extended family in. Heritage Americans, on the other hand, are fleeing the high taxes, crime, anti-white hate and affirmative action legislation.

Let's go our separate ways. We'll take the heritage Americans and First and Second Amendment; you can have the Guatemalan goblins, hate speech laws, feminism and socialism, and we'll see who's doing better in 20 years.

[Canada]

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" (Samuel Johnson).

It appears that only the Republicans have patriotism in the USA now. This forum proves that. Not sure why democrats aren't patriotic anymore. I guess supporting BLM and Anitifa eliminates their patriotism.

[Canada]

Yes! The Supreme Court of the US decided in Texas v Johnson that a protester who burned the American flag was in fact using his 1st amendment right to express himself and as such is protected under the constitution. You may not agree (who cares), you may not like it (who cares) but that has been the interpretation of the 1st amendment and what our founders intended. I'm sure you think you are a better judge of what the founders intended but I going to go out on a limb and say the Supreme Court members who decided that case were a lot more knowledgeable that you will ever be.

By the way if you are 1/10 the patriot you claim that you are. Why do you call yourself Canada instead of some name that is more representative of our country or its history?

I was Canadian when I joined this site but now I am a duel citizen with 2 passports. I didn't think it was necessary to change profile on here. I am Canadian and will stand for Canadian anthem and honor the Canadian flag but I am also a citizen of USA and when I was sworn in as a citizen I pledged to honor the flag and stand for the anthem. The flag and the anthem means freedom to me that was given to me by the thousands of soldiers that fought for the freedom of all Americans. Many US soldiers died to give all Americans the life we live in today. I never ever heard a man or woman in uniform say they were fighting for the freedom of white people only. They gave their life for whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians and every race of citizen in our country. I know several on this site have very different views of the military, flag and anthem but I choose to respect all of these. I totally understand that several anti USA, anti military democrats hate the American way of life. It is a free country so it is their choice. I just don't want to Associate with these people that betray our country and I don't.

[Horatio]

Where were they born? My understanding is the vast majority were British citizens born in the British colonies.

None of them were born in Britain.

[EihTooms]

Indeed. Many people are fleeing from California and New York to Texas, Florida and Idaho. Nobody is fleeing the other way.

Lol. "fleeing"? California has had roughly 1.5 times the population of Texas, 2 times the population of Florida and 20+ times the population of Idaho since forever and for plenty of very good reasons.

Yes, many Californians can take the whopping profits they made on their California property investments and the money they made at their higher paying California jobs to buy for cash and enjoy life relatively easy peasy virtually anywhere on the planet, certainly in those states, with no small thanks to modern Internet technology developed largely in California.

But that number will never match much less exceed the number of Americans that prefer to live in California over any one of those or other Red states. When 20 million Californians move to Florida, get back to us.

The same principle applies to New York.

[Paulie97]

The founders of America were British. They violently rebelled against the country of their birth.

And seized property from British loyalists in the process, and in a similar fashion as Castro in Cuba. It's funny how standards change, depending on who is writing the history. Wink.

[Chris P]

Don't try to dissuade them. After finding out how much worse life will be they will run back with their tails between their legs. Imagine noone to subsidise the farmers, no money to pay for the Military, having to compete with the rest of the world to supply the markets with the money (The Democrat states). Build a big wall around them and let them stew in they lie infested swamp.

Imagine the coastal communists with noone to grow their food, and no military to defend them. Have fun turning the bluehaired genderfluid critical race theory graduates into a fighting force. The gangbangers are used to violence, but good luck getting them to follow orders. Half the army will be dead of "friendly fire" by week 2.

As for farming, does anyone remember the attempt to grow food in CHAZ / CHOP or whatever the hell it was? They dumped an inch of soil on some grass and expected to feed the entire commune. Hilarious.

Honestly, you clearly hate all of the 75 million Trump voters, and we're none too fond of your woke feminist open borders anti-white child-groping drag queen story hour lunacy either. Why would you want to force us to stay together? It's like a marriage in which the parties have grown to despise each other. Why wouldn't you want to make a clean break.

Just one thing: we're keeping the name, flag and anthem, which is only fair since you hate them all. Suggestions for your new country's name include Genderistan, Affirmativeactionia, or Gibsmedatland. The flag would obviously be the woke brown rainbow. We'll even throw in all 30 million illegals for ya.

[Chris P]

Which Republican state has the biggest homeless problem. Last I looked it was California. Which republican state has the highest murder rate and crime? Chicago and Illinois are still democrat state. It seems to me that the democrats do a lot of talking but ignore these problems. Democrats don't care that the homeless are ruining their state and the democrats definitely are doing nothing with the thousands of blacks being killed in Chicago. Even google acknowledges these problems but democrats just blame Trump. Do nothing and blame Trump for all their poorly run states.

And with Putin it was Biden kissing his ass a week ago. Putin has free reign to do anything now with a weakling president in USA. All the world loves Biden and a weak America. You guys love Biden because you hate America. Every post of yours proves this.

The only thing that Biden has done for the blacks is defund police and let blacks loot and riot with no consequences. Really great for USA.

Indeed. Many people are fleeing from California and New York to Texas, Florida and Idaho. Nobody is fleeing the other way.