American Politics

[EihTooms]

It's bad enough to see how Trump left the USA practically bare ass naked to prevent or respond quickly and effectively to the inevitable and (to him) forewarned risk of a possible devastating virus spread thanks to his idiotic economic decisions. But it is even worse to consider the unavoidable conclusion that one of his motivations for those spectacularly bad decisions was because former POTUS Barack Obama's name and fingerprints were on those proven systems set up to prevent just such a deadly and economy devastating outcome. And to some degree, so were former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's.

How Trump Gutted Obamas Pandemic-Preparedness Systems.
Former officials: Trumps reshuffling of positions and departments, focus on business solutions, downgrading of science, left the country dangerously unprepared for an unprecedented pandemic.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...demic-response

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised
https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3b873e56f80e9a

Obama team left pandemic playbook for Trump administration, officials confirm
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...icials-confirm

Trump Replaced White House Pandemic-Response Team With Jared Kushner
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ronavirus.html

[Golfinho]

But yea there are consequences to sourcing a guy like that.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zMAxwWpYjsY/

You're resourced:

Consequences for suppressing the truth. C'est la vie.

[Paulie97]

Also, have you got a link for your claim that Fauci "knew the virus was man-made" and that "hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment" for coronavirus/Covid-19?

Excellent question. Can't wait to see what he comes up with. Wink.

[Golfinho]

As to the post you replied to, Gofinho seems to be unaware that Anti-Semitism long predates the Holocaust, and by centuries. He sources us to known Anti-Semites like E. Michael Jones.

You seem to be unaware of the impossibility of anti-Semitism predating Semitism, you know, like putting the cart before the horse.

Paul E. Really has a hard-on for E. Michael Jones. Glad to have introduced you.

[EihTooms]

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here...l-2021/477372/

"Tucker Carlson Tonight is No. 1 for April 2021, not just in average total audience, but also among adults 25-54."

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ime-Viewership

FNC Finishes 2020 as Most-Watched Basic Cable Network for Fifth Consecutive Year, Becomes First Cable News Network Ever to End Year with More Than Three Million Viewers in Primetime.

FNC Remains the Number One Television Network in Weekday Primetime, Outpacing all Broadcast Networks in Total Viewers Beginning in 2 Q'2020.

"Hannity" Tops Cable News for Fourth Year in a Row with Total Viewers, Besting All-Time Record for Highest-Rated Year in Cable News History.

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" Delivers its Highest-Rated Year Ever, Finishes as Most-Watched Cable News Program in 25-54 Demographic.

Two Dozen FNC Programs Deliver Largest Audiences in Network History; FNC Telecasts Make up 41 of the Top 100 Cable Telecasts in 2020".

Shush.

Wow. More than 3 million viewers in primetime?

Real evening news programs on the regular broadcast networks, not just on cable, routinely get 2 to 3 times that viewership. Each. You know, the network news programs that "cable news" Fox likes to characterize their "us against them" adversaries?

Even worse for those desperate to believe more Americans get their news from Fox than any other network, that NBC Nightly News program is just fine with competing for viewership ratings against its company's own MSNBC programming and vice versa!

World News Tonight Tops Again In 2020 Amid Boost In Evening News Viewership Overall
https://deadline.com/2020/12/world-n...20-1234662907/

World News Tonight averaged 9.61 million total viewers for the year, compared to 8.29 million for NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt and 5.92 million for CBS Evening News with Norah ODonnell.

Btw, did you ever stop to wonder why Fox does not have an evening news program on their regular broadcast network as does CBS, NBC and ABC? lol. Think about that a while and let us know what you come up with.

[EihTooms]

This from a guy whose party were downplaying and ignoring the disease well into 2020, with Nancy Pelosi going around hugging people in Chinatown and Biden saying that Trump's blocking of flights from China was "racist". Imagine how many more Americans would have died if Trump hadn't stood up to the fake news and democrats in enforcing his ban. Thank God for Trump's strength in the face of leftist lies.

The idea that the Chinese Communist Party would have let the US Government send a team of operatives into Wuhan is so ridiculous and idiotic as to be hilarious, in line with most posts from the wokerati in here.

And now from the Fauci emails released today we discover that he knew that the virus was man-made early in 2020. He also knew that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment, as President Trump said, but refused to say so. Many more revelations in there, detailing how Fauci and the rest of the establishment were entirely incompetent and mendacious, focused more on attacking the president than saving lives. Fauci lied, thousands died.

The earliest statements and behaviors by Pelosi, Fauci, you, me, everyone that turned out to be mistaken to the point of deadly were the result of our then so-called potus, who we knew had gotten intel unlike anyone else on the planet about it, lying to us about what he knew about the risks, human-to-human spread, the proper mitigating measures to prevent infection, etc, etc, etc. That is pretty much the point I have been making about Trump's cowardice and lies being the main reason 550,000+ Americans died from the virus and that it developed into a Pandemic in the first place.

"There is one case out of China, 15 cases here and soon to be near zero. We've got this under control."
Remember?

Biden never said that Trump's too little too late restriction of some flights from China into the USA was "racist."

Also, have you got a link for your claim that Fauci "knew the virus was man-made" and that "hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment" for coronavirus/Covid-19?

And on your dismissal of the well-documented disastrous Trump economic decisions as early as 2018 (and several more in early 2020) that contributed mightily to turning a likely manageable endemic in an area of China into the Pandemic it became and how you just can't imagine there would be that much USA influence in China in that regard:

Exclusive: US slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronvirus outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21C3N5

WASHINGTON(Reuters) - The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned.

[Paulie97]

Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.

If you reference Godwin himself he allows for exceptions, for cases where it's called for thus the subject isn't entirely off the table.

As to the post you replied to, Gofinho seems to be unaware that Anti-Semitism long predates the Holocaust, and by centuries. He sources us to known Anti-Semites like E. Michael Jones who rubs elbows with and shares conferences with David Duke, plus references Holocaust deniers and has all the global Jewish conspiracy theories going. Same old tripe that's been going on since the Middle Ages, while we are left to wonder why a people so shrewd and powerful as the Jews have been so frequently victimized. But yea there are consequences to sourcing a guy like that. C'est La Vie.

[Chris P]

Rachel Maddow Has Most-Watched Show In First Quarter Cable News Ratings
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoy...h=62dcf70a7505

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here...l-2021/477372/

"Tucker Carlson Tonight is No. 1 for April 2021, not just in average total audience, but also among adults 25-54."

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ime-Viewership

FNC Finishes 2020 as Most-Watched Basic Cable Network for Fifth Consecutive Year, Becomes First Cable News Network Ever to End Year with More Than Three Million Viewers in Primetime.

FNC Remains the Number One Television Network in Weekday Primetime, Outpacing all Broadcast Networks in Total Viewers Beginning in 2 Q'2020.

"Hannity" Tops Cable News for Fourth Year in a Row with Total Viewers, Besting All-Time Record for Highest-Rated Year in Cable News History.

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" Delivers its Highest-Rated Year Ever, Finishes as Most-Watched Cable News Program in 25-54 Demographic.

Two Dozen FNC Programs Deliver Largest Audiences in Network History; FNC Telecasts Make up 41 of the Top 100 Cable Telecasts in 2020".

Shush.

[Chris P]

https://youtu.be/ovBddHEtxKY

At least on this social network, I won't get canceled for posting this.

I hope Biden holds on only because his VP would be even worse, which is not a good endorsement.

Meanwhile, the President of Russia practices judo against men a third his age.

Sky News Australia is fantastic. Thank god for Rupert Murdoch, the last goy in media. May he live many more years.

I actually think it would be better if Biden keels over and Heels-Up Harris aka Willie Brown's cockholster becomes president. The far-left, globalist, woke, America-last agenda is going on right now, but Biden is a kind of soothing figurehead for a lot of low-information voters. If Harris took over, with her unlikability, cackling, and open hatred for America and white people oozing from her pores, it would wake a lot more people up to what is going on.

[Chris P]

twisting yourself into knots

How about you try twisting yourself into knots by defining this "white supremacism" thing you keep talking about?

[PVMonger]

Fortunately Biden has done nothing yet in his first 4 months so the market and business are still profiting from Trump presidency. Biden like other past democratic presidents will raise taxes on the companies and the companies like Apple will just move their money overseas and we will collect less taxes. History will repeat itself. If Biden does nothing which there is a good chance he will then the economy will boom like the Trump presidency. Biden is to worried about giving money away than trying to build business back up. Wait for the big sell off of stocks if Biden raises capital gain and dividend stocks. But most of you liberals don't have stocks do you can be happy.

But Donnie didn't qualify his stock market LIE, did he? So, the bottom line is that Donnie lied (again) and the sheep (Republican voters) ate it up.

But Donnie still lied and you keep twisting yourself into knots trying to defend him.

[Member #4698]

Time our for a moment of sanity.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6256993729001

[Chris P]

550,000 deaths.......would be their endless calls for hearings to get to the bottom of "Why did President Hillary Clinton dither and wait TWO WHOLE WEEKS to send our wonderful Pandemic Prevention and Response systems team to Wuhan, China in December 2019 .

This from a guy whose party were downplaying and ignoring the disease well into 2020, with Nancy Pelosi going around hugging people in Chinatown and Biden saying that Trump's blocking of flights from China was "racist". Imagine how many more Americans would have died if Trump hadn't stood up to the fake news and democrats in enforcing his ban. Thank God for Trump's strength in the face of leftist lies.

The idea that the Chinese Communist Party would have let the US Government send a team of operatives into Wuhan is so ridiculous and idiotic as to be hilarious, in line with most posts from the wokerati in here.

And now from the Fauci emails released today we discover that he knew that the virus was man-made early in 2020. He also knew that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment, as President Trump said, but refused to say so. Many more revelations in there, detailing how Fauci and the rest of the establishment were entirely incompetent and mendacious, focused more on attacking the president than saving lives. Fauci lied, thousands died.

[Golfinho]

Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.

We should have been making comparisons to Hitler/Nazism and what has now become of the Republican Party early and often at least for the past 15-20 years when it really took a turn for the worse (if that was even possible).

Perhaps if we had been justifiably doing that without the slightest concern about breaking Godwin's silly rule then less than 1.5% of the voters in just two states, Florida and Michigan, would have used their better anti-Nazi judgement and switched their votes for Trump to votes for Clinton in 2016.

Then we would not have suffered the loss of 550,000+ Americans, Recessions in the manufacturing sector, agriculture sector, a big one across the country later, two Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, trillions added to the deficit for no noticeable improvement in the economy, the emboldening and strengthing of our enemies and adversaries, the pity and well earned derision of our allies, the possible end of traveling freely around the world to fuck and get blown by sweet girls in their 20's for practically nothing and the deadliest attacks on American democracy since the beginning of the country..

It should be obvious that neither Party is defensible and that lesser evil voting is not the way forward. Trump was the symptom of a failed system, as is Joe Biden. Didn't the polls show that a majority of Trump voters would have voted for Sanders if given the opportunity. If that was in fact the case, what does that tell you?

As for covid: as grotesque as the Trump response was portrayed, things would have in the end played out with little difference regardless of who was the Figurehead-in-Chief. There'd still be travel bans keeping us from our favorite playgrounds, and that's really what matters most from our perspective.

[EihTooms]

There you go -- breaking Godwin's Law 2. 0: bleating out anti-semitism and referencing ADL as your authority. LOL.

Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.

We should have been making comparisons to Hitler/Nazism and what has now become of the Republican Party early and often at least for the past 15-20 years when it really took a turn for the worse (if that was even possible).

Perhaps if we had been justifiably doing that without the slightest concern about breaking Godwin's silly rule then less than 1.5% of the voters in just two states, Florida and Michigan, would have used their better anti-Nazi judgement and switched their votes for Trump to votes for Clinton in 2016.

Then we would not have suffered the loss of 550,000+ Americans, Recessions in the manufacturing sector, agriculture sector, a big one across the country later, two Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, trillions added to the deficit for no noticeable improvement in the economy, the emboldening and strengthing of our enemies and adversaries, the pity and well earned derision of our allies, the possible end of traveling freely around the world to fuck and get blown by sweet girls in their 20's for practically nothing and the deadliest attacks on American democracy since the beginning of the country.

In all probability, the most annoying squawking we would have to endure from the wannabe Nazi Q-Anon Repub Party today would be their endless calls for hearings to get to the bottom of "Why did President Hillary Clinton dither and wait TWO WHOLE WEEKS to send our wonderful Pandemic Prevention and Response systems team to Wuhan, China in December 2019 and thereby caused the death of 543 poor Chinese during that terrible regional endemic of late 2019?!"

"Benghazi!'

Lol. Can't you just hear them coming up with some crap like that? I sure can. But that would be many, many, many times better to endure than what we got instead. Fuck Godwin's Law. If ever there was a time and place in history to "break" it as a valuable reminder, these past 15-20 years have been it.