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  1. #2993
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Total hogwash. Trump never banned all flights from China and Biden never called him racist for it. The internet is full of Fact Checks debunking that crap, bolstered by all necessary links and data.

    Trump spent the first months of the known spread of the virus in the USA, after he had been briefed and convinced by the intel of the truth about how it was easily transmitted in the air, how quickly it moved from human to human and how deadly it was, lying in perfect sync with Xi about it to the world and mocking mitigation efforts he already knew were the exact right things to do.

    His voice is on Woodward's tapes admitting it.

    That is why I will forever recognize this pandemic as Trump's Pandemic. He wasn't responsible for originating the virus and ignoring it until it became endemic in the Wuhan area of China. But he is 100% responsible for having defunded the CDC and crippling the Pandemic Prevention systems in 2018 whose job it was to monitor and prevent endemics like this one was when he was told about it from spreading.

    Then he decided to become 100% responsible for being the so-called potus the world had tended in the past to believe would not lie about what China or other bad actor countries might want him to lie about and put all economies and lives on the planet at risk for fear of rocking the boat on some piddling lame ass failed trade negotiation going on at the moment.

    But that is exactly what Trump did..
    Here is the link from NYtimes. It was in all the newspapers and news stations. Trump banned entry from foreign nationals from China forcing the airlines to cancel almost all China flights. This was January 2020 before the democrats even claimed Covid was dangerous. Democrats still to this day refuse to acknowledge that it started in China.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/b...ronavirus.html

    Amazing that Trump did this when the new president condemned him for this. How many lives did this save? How many more would have died if the democrats could have blocked him on this like they tried to?

  2. #2992

    Disaster

    Reading all the posts here from both republicans and democrats makes it easy to see that the first 4 months of Biden presidency has been a disaster. The democrats try to sugar coat his failures by blaming Trump for making America great. There hasn't been one positive comment about a Biden accomplishment because there are none. He is a disgrace and he is making Trump look better every day to even the democrats. Biden has already lowered everyone standard of living with record inflation and rising gas, groceries, lumber, energy and housing. He treats everyone equal. We all suffer from his mistakes.

  3. #2991

    Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Total hogwash. Trump never banned all flights from China and Biden never called him racist for it. The internet is full of Fact Checks debunking that crap, bolstered by all necessary links and data.

    Trump spent the first months of the known spread of the virus in the USA, after he had been briefed and convinced by the intel of the truth about how it was easily transmitted in the air, how quickly it moved from human to human and how deadly it was, lying in perfect sync with Xi about it to the world and mocking mitigation efforts he already knew were the exact right things to do.

    His voice is on Woodward's tapes admitting it.

    That is why I will forever recognize this pandemic as Trump's Pandemic. He wasn't responsible for originating the virus and ignoring it until it became endemic in the Wuhan area of China. But he is 100% responsible for having defunded the CDC and crippling the Pandemic Prevention systems in 2018 whose job it was to monitor and prevent endemics like this one was when he was told about it from spreading.

    Then he decided to become 100% responsible for being the so-called potus the world had tended in the past to believe would not lie about what China or other bad actor countries might want him to lie about and put all economies and lives on the planet at risk for fear of rocking the boat on some piddling lame ass failed trade negotiation going on at the moment..
    Total lies. CNN and MSNBC both had Biden on their news and Biden said it to 300,000,000 people. Easy to google that Trump stopped the Chinese from entering USA after Covid was identified. Every local news station picked it up.

  4. #2990
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Trump recognized in the first couple months the severity of the China virus and that is why he blocked all the flights from China and banned Chinese from entering USA. I am sure that you remember that Biden and the democrats called this racist and that the virus wasn't serious. Trump fast tracked the vaccines to get 2 vaccines after only 9 months by cutting the regulations and testing time. I am sure you remember Biden and the democrats saying this was reckless and that they wouldn't take the vaccines that Trump got approved. Biden and his staff were all vaccinated in December before Trump left office. If Biden was president during the Chinese virus we still wouldn't have a vaccine approved yet.

    Their I can't be a smooth transition when a fool like Biden becomes president. His idea of leading is to cancel all Trump policies that made America great. Biden and his progressive socialists want to see America fail. Weakened by weak leaders. He basically told us that his first day. He said his staff would not be chosen on ability but by race. He has filled his cabinet with the most diverse unqualified cabinet in USA history. That is why we have a crises at the border, record inflation, instability in Middle East, cyber ransoms, weaker dollar, highest crime rate in decades, weaker energy policy. In 4 months he has destroyed the American Dream. If you aren't smart enough to see it you will suffer with all the other idiots who voted for him. And they are suffering at the pump, electric bills and grocery stores. There was no inflation with the Trump era but 4 months of Biden inflation is at its highest rate since 2010. Yes you guessed it Obama era.
    Total hogwash. Trump never banned all flights from China and Biden never called him racist for it. The internet is full of Fact Checks debunking that crap, bolstered by all necessary links and data.

    Trump spent the first months of the known spread of the virus in the USA, after he had been briefed and convinced by the intel of the truth about how it was easily transmitted in the air, how quickly it moved from human to human and how deadly it was, lying in perfect sync with Xi about it to the world and mocking mitigation efforts he already knew were the exact right things to do.

    His voice is on Woodward's tapes admitting it.

    That is why I will forever recognize this pandemic as Trump's Pandemic. He wasn't responsible for originating the virus and ignoring it until it became endemic in the Wuhan area of China. But he is 100% responsible for having defunded the CDC and crippling the Pandemic Prevention systems in 2018 whose job it was to monitor and prevent endemics like this one was when he was told about it from spreading.

    Then he decided to become 100% responsible for being the so-called potus the world had tended in the past to believe would not lie about what China or other bad actor countries might want him to lie about and put all economies and lives on the planet at risk for fear of rocking the boat on some piddling lame ass failed trade negotiation going on at the moment.

    But that is exactly what Trump did.

    Vaccines to fight coronaviruses had been researched and developed for years before this one cropped up. The lady who spearheaded the Moderna vaccine cited her research and efforts on developing it going back to the Obama presidency. Nobody worked harder to discourage everyone on Earth from bothering to spend the time or money to develope and produce a vaccine specifically for Covid-19 while also promoting and defending doing absolutely nothing to mitigate its spread into the Pandemic it became than Donald J. Trump.

    He gave the effort that was already happening despite him a name, "branded" it, after it was clear the world needed it thanks so much to his lying and cowardice; Operation Warp Speed. That's it. And not even a very good brand name.

    Meanwhile, the vaccine developers judiciously delayed a few announcements of success until it was clear Biden would be more involved in the distribution and administering of their product than Trump no doubt because they knew if they handed that challenge and opportunity to Trump he'd just fuck it up like everything else he was handed in life.

  5. #2989

    You are right

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    The truth of the matter is that Trump didn't do much of anything. That's why the companies waited until the election was over and he had lost to make their big announcements about how much success they enjoyed in developing the vaccines. So that Trump couldn't take all of the credit for himself, and try to leverage that to win the election. Pfizer and Moderna held out on him until after the election was over LOLOLOL! To the victor (Joe Biden) goes the spoils!
    You are right. Trump had the vaccines all ready to go before the election but the drug companies held them back so that Biden would win and get the credit. A big win for Biden cost thousands of lives in October to January. Just think how many people were killed to get Biden elected. You must feel good about that. We would all be vaccinated now if we would have started in September and the USA would be back to normal. Biden can take credit for these lost livesr.

  6. #2988

    Yes, there were people, just not many of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Okay. Now we see you are just here to troll. Yeah nobody gets that. Nevermind I put up my payment history from the department of labor and it says it in plain English. Nevermind the federal government was giving out $600 per week in addition to what the state was paying (it has since been lowered to $300). Not everybody lives in Florida, so yes there were people getting $1100 per week AND EVEN MORE (as much as $1834 in Massachusetts) depending on what state they drew unemployment in, regardless of what you think you know. But I guess your mind is already made up and facts can not change it.

    "Millions of Americans are getting a big cut in their unemployment checks after the expiration of a policy that offered an extra $600 a week in aid. The weekly $600 federal supplement to unemployment benefits, part of a federal coronavirus relief law enacted in March, came on top of the typical aid that states pay."

    Here is a chart for you troll:

    https://savingtoinvest.com/maximum-w...fits-by-state/
    In fairness, only 4 states have max more than $700 a week. 5 others -- between $600-700. And surprisingly to me, those states don't include NY and California. Very few people enjoy the kind of windfalls you're describing.

  7. #2987
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    And nobody earns $1100/ week on unemployment. Florida's max is $275 which means less than $600/ week.

    But your mind is already made up so nothing I say will change it.
    Okay. Now we see you are just here to troll. Yeah nobody gets that. Nevermind I put up my payment history from the department of labor and it says it in plain English. Nevermind the federal government was giving out $600 per week in addition to what the state was paying (it has since been lowered to $300). Not everybody lives in Florida, so yes there were people getting $1100 per week AND EVEN MORE (as much as $1834 in Massachusetts) depending on what state they drew unemployment in, regardless of what you think you know. But I guess your mind is already made up and facts can not change it.

    "Millions of Americans are getting a big cut in their unemployment checks after the expiration of a policy that offered an extra $600 a week in aid. The weekly $600 federal supplement to unemployment benefits, part of a federal coronavirus relief law enacted in March, came on top of the typical aid that states pay."

    Here is a chart for you troll:

    https://savingtoinvest.com/maximum-w...fits-by-state/

  8. #2986

    Vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    "Trump fast tracked the vaccines ". And now lots of trump supporters won't take the vaccine because they're scared of it. So Donnie obviously developed a faulty vaccine.
    The truth of the matter is that Trump didn't do much of anything. That's why the companies waited until the election was over and he had lost to make their big announcements about how much success they enjoyed in developing the vaccines. So that Trump couldn't take all of the credit for himself, and try to leverage that to win the election. Pfizer and Moderna held out on him until after the election was over LOLOLOL! To the victor (Joe Biden) goes the spoils!

  9. #2985

    Fast tracked

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    If Donnie were still president, we'd have close to a million Americans dead from COVID. Yippee.
    He fast tracked the vaccines in 9 months which would have taken Biden 2 to 3 years. So if Biden was president we would have had 20,000,000 deaths before he got the vaccine. Trump would have had 90% of the people vaccinated already Trump got things done. Biden didn't. Trump got the vaccines in record time. The drug companies produced the vaccine in record numbers. Biden did nothing. Biden is just taken credit for Trump success with the vaccine. Biden in 4 months has done nothing but reverse the Trump successes. Biden has no successes yet and will not have any in 2021. His only achievement will be to get rid of the title of worst VP ever. Harris will assume that title. He will get the title of worst president ever that Obama is holding. The winner is Obama. He no longer is worst president ever.

  10. #2984
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Trump recognized in the first couple months the severity of the China virus and that is why he blocked all the flights from China and banned Chinese from entering USA. I am sure that you remember that Biden and the democrats called this racist and that the virus wasn't serious. Trump fast tracked the vaccines to get 2 vaccines after only 9 months by cutting the regulations and testing time. I am sure you remember Biden and the democrats saying this was reckless and that they wouldn't take the vaccines that Trump got approved. Biden and his staff were all vaccinated in December before Trump left office. If Biden was president during the Chinese virus we still wouldn't have a vaccine approved yet.

    Their I can't be a smooth transition when a fool like Biden becomes president. His idea of leading is to cancel all Trump policies that made America great. Biden and his progressive socialists want to see America fail. Weakened by weak leaders. He basically told us that his first day. He said his staff would not be chosen on ability but by race. He has filled his cabinet with the most diverse unqualified cabinet in USA history. That is why we have a crises at the border, record inflation, instability in Middle East, cyber ransoms, weaker dollar, highest crime rate in decades, weaker energy policy. In 4 months he has destroyed the American Dream. If you aren't smart enough to see it you will suffer with all the other idiots who voted for him. And they are suffering at the pump, electric bills and grocery stores. There was no inflation with the Trump era but 4 months of Biden inflation is at its highest rate since 2010. Yes you guessed it Obama era.
    "Trump recognized in the first couple months the severity of the china virus" . And lied to the American people about it not being serious for a year.

    ". Blocked all the flights from china and banned Chinese from entering USA. " the virus was already here when he did that so he closed the barn door after the horses escaped. Plus, he didn't ban Americans from returning and everybody knows that the virus is smart enough to read a passport.
    "Trump fast tracked the vaccines ". And now lots of trump supporters won't take the vaccine because they're scared of it. So Donnie obviously developed a faulty vaccine.

    Dr. Birx said that 100,000 COVID deaths couldn't have been avoided so Donnie is 100% responsible for 450,000. And he will be responsible for most of the rest, too, because of his idiotic politicizing of masks, the CDC, etc. Donnie's dumbass policies did this, not Biden.

  11. #2983
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You are joking right? What do you suppose they do with the same kids in the summer, or when they are on spring break or winter break? There was no worker shortage with people saying "nobody wants to work for the wages I am willing to pay" before there was free money to be had from both Republican Trump and Democrat Biden.

    I can say for a fact that I was getting $1100 per week on unemployment last year. Hence my meme that if a mf is giving money away then I have no problems taking it. Same as these mongers justifying giving money to chicks that are not hookers so they will not feel bad. They say well none of them ever turn it down, so they really need it. Who the hell turns down free money to begin with? My best friend is rich, but if I went over to his house and handed him $100 he would say thanks dude.

    If I worked a job for even the $15 per hour that Biden thinks everybody deserves, at 40 hours per week, I would be earning $600 per week. Hmmm. $1100 per week for sitting home or doing whatever the fuck I want or $600 per week to go work my ass off everyday. If you know basic mathematics, then this would be the perfect time to do it.

    P.S. When I didn't want to work for the wages that someone was willing to pay me, then I went to school to get skills to make myself marketable in order to be able to command a certain wage. Why the fuck should someone that dropped out of high school that is working on fries at the fast food place and layed up having a bunch of kids life be made easier on GP?
    Obviously you don't know that families PLAN for breaks, summer, etc. It is sometimes tough BUT that's far different from this situation. Unless, of course, you can afford fulltime help.

    And nobody earns $1100/ week on unemployment. Florida's max is $275 which means less than $600/ week.

    But your mind is already made up so nothing I say will change it.

  12. #2982
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    If Trump was president all kids would be in school. People would be working again like before the pandemic. Biden solution is give people free stuff. Biden reinstalled all the regulations Trump got rid of so small business and large business were more profitable. With all the new regulations in Biden administration there is less money for wages. Blame Biden for wages going down.
    If Donnie were still president, we'd have close to a million Americans dead from COVID. Yippee.

  13. #2981

    Details, Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Trump recognized in the first couple months the severity of the China virus.
    Talk about forgetting details! Yes, he knew about the severity of the virus, then turned around and intentionally lied to the American people about it. Remember that little interview with Bob Woodard? Yes, he lied to the American people, then refused to do and support the right things, like wearing masks and social distancing. He didn't want people like Dr. Fauci to shoot straight with the American people, and would have fired the esteemed doctor if he felt he could get away with it. Trump showed no respect for science, and incredibly suggested that people ingest bleach to defeat the virus. Trump refused to model the appropriate behaviors and ended up getting coronavirus himself LOL! Remember that detail? Not only that, but the virus was running rampant throughout the White House with one person after another getting it! When the vaccines started to come onto the scene, the Trump administration had zero plans for how to work with the states to effectively roll the vaccines out. That took the focus and dedication of the Biden administration to do that which, as has been previously noted, was seriously hampered by the Trump administration's refusal to facilitate a peaceful and orderly transition of power from one administration to the next, which is something that had happened in the United States for 100's of years, quite often between administrations with very different ideas of how to best meet America's interests at home and abroad. If you claim that the details have been missed, then you need to make sure that you include all of them yourself as well. There's plenty of more that could be highlighted that you missed, but that's enough political speech for me for tonight.

  14. #2980
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    This is a Republican "talking point" and nothing more. In reality, a simplistic take on a complex situation.

    One real statement is "There are jobs available but nobody wants to work for the wages I am willing to pay". That's closer to the truth. But even that statement doesn't take into account child care.

    Most working families have kids. With schools closed, who teaches the kids? Who watches the kids? The parents. So in a two-worker household, 50% of the labor force can't work.

    If you want to learn something, read this: https://theweek.com/articles/980877/doomsday-bad-bosses.
    You are joking right? What do you suppose they do with the same kids in the summer, or when they are on spring break or winter break? There was no worker shortage with people saying "nobody wants to work for the wages I am willing to pay" before there was free money to be had from both Republican Trump and Democrat Biden.

    I can say for a fact that I was getting $1100 per week on unemployment last year. Hence my meme that if a mf is giving money away then I have no problems taking it. Same as these mongers justifying giving money to chicks that are not hookers so they will not feel bad. They say well none of them ever turn it down, so they really need it. Who the hell turns down free money to begin with? My best friend is rich, but if I went over to his house and handed him $100 he would say thanks dude.

    If I worked a job for even the $15 per hour that Biden thinks everybody deserves, at 40 hours per week, I would be earning $600 per week. Hmmm. $1100 per week for sitting home or doing whatever the fuck I want or $600 per week to go work my ass off everyday. If you know basic mathematics, then this would be the perfect time to do it.

    P.S. When I didn't want to work for the wages that someone was willing to pay me, then I went to school to get skills to make myself marketable in order to be able to command a certain wage. Why the fuck should someone that dropped out of high school that is working on fries at the fast food place and layed up having a bunch of kids life be made easier on GP?
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  15. #2979

    Republican talking point

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    This is a Republican "talking point" and nothing more. In reality, a simplistic take on a complex situation.

    One real statement is "There are jobs available but nobody wants to work for the wages I am willing to pay". That's closer to the truth. But even that statement doesn't take into account child care.

    Most working families have kids. With schools closed, who teaches the kids? Who watches the kids? The parents. So in a two-worker household, 50% of the labor force can't work.

    If you want to learn something, read this: https://theweek.com/articles/980877/doomsday-bad-bosses.
    If Trump was president all kids would be in school. People would be working again like before the pandemic. Biden solution is give people free stuff. Biden reinstalled all the regulations Trump got rid of so small business and large business were more profitable. With all the new regulations in Biden administration there is less money for wages. Blame Biden for wages going down.

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