American Politics

[Canada]

How can you quote the CLAIM of a fact-check, and avoid the FACTual conclusion?
"The numbers are real but they are a mix of data from the state's primary and general elections. And the data is still on the state's website. ".

In short this is an example of Mastiano and / or his followers being misunderstanding what they read. They are observing more mail in ballots received in a pandemic for a general election than were sent out for a PRIMARY election. But who quotes an article and leaves out the 'fact' in a fact check in order to leave the exact wrong impression? Either the above poster is dishonest or he relies on sources which are.

So are Republican leaders stupid or are they taking advantage of people's desire to believe they won? I didn't check the state website, but I will say that Mastriano is a retired Colonel with degrees from University of New Brunswick School of Advanced Air and Space Studies and United States Army War College... He knows how to read a chart.

Here is the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ta/6450032002/.

You can't check the state because the state deleted the chart and the evidence so nobody will ever know the truth. Seems like everytime some real evidence gets presented it it quickly eliminated by the democrats. As soon as USA Today ran the story the evidence disappeared. And you wonder why Republicans want a honest election.

[Mr Enternational]

You really believe blakmericans (you excepted, of course) are such petty herd animals that they would follow blindly, as you suggest?

Sorry, I did not suggest anything. I simply stated a known fact. This was during the Civil Rights Era and MLK Sr had clout amongst Black people as the head of what is the most famous Black church in America. Feel free to look it up.

"With days left in the race, the campaigns of Richard M. Nixon and John F. Kennedy sought to downplay civil rights issues for fear of losing southern white votes. Blacks had mostly voted Republican, since Abraham Lincoln. Nixon had just been endorsed by Martin Luther King Sr. , the leader of Ebenezer Baptist Church. But Nixon ignored their pleas for help, while Kennedy called Coretta to express his sympathy.

Historians Taylor Branch and David Garrow wrote that Robert F. Kennedy threw a fit, telling aides who fed her number to his brother that they cost him the presidency, but he called Mitchell, who reversed his denial of bond, immediately freeing King.

King's father switched his endorsement, saying Kennedy had "the moral courage to stand up for what's right. " That quote, and others, appeared in a blue-papered pamphlet titled "No Comment Nixon Versus a Candidate with a Heart, Senator Kennedy. " Unnoticed by the national media, Kennedy aides and King supporters distributed the pamphlet in black churches around the nation the Sunday before Election Day.

Blacks had voted 60-40 Republican just four years earlier; this time they voted 70-30 for the Democrat, providing more than enough for Kennedy to win the electoral college and the popular vote by a narrow 113,000 margin nationwide".

[GDreams]

Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?

Well Sojourner did the work for me, totally blowing your lies out of the water.

"In a news release on Oct. 27, the deadline to apply for a mail or absentee ballot in the state, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf's office said more than 3 million voters had applied to vote by mail.

The USA Elections Project reports that mail ballot request rates were 1,941,131 for Democrats; 784,851 for Republicans; 25,367 for a minor party; and 336,175 for independents, putting the total number requested at 3,087,524."

Of course since Trump rose to power it seems very few people in the Republican party are capable of telling the truth. You will have to do a lot better Canada!

[Sojourner]

Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?

By December 1 Department of State took down the chart. Amazing every time there is evidence of fraud that the democrats in Department of State removed the charts of the vote totals but it is easy to check that they received more than 100% of the ballots. Happened in Georgia also. This is USA Today a democratic newspaper that reported this.

How can you quote the CLAIM of a fact-check, and avoid the FACTual conclusion?
"The numbers are real but they are a mix of data from the state's primary and general elections. And the data is still on the state's website. ".

In short this is an example of Mastiano and / or his followers being misunderstanding what they read. They are observing more mail in ballots received in a pandemic for a general election than were sent out for a PRIMARY election. But who quotes an article and leaves out the 'fact' in a fact check in order to leave the exact wrong impression? Either the above poster is dishonest or he relies on sources which are.

So are Republican leaders stupid or are they taking advantage of people's desire to believe they won? I didn't check the state website, but I will say that Mastriano is a retired Colonel with degrees from University of New Brunswick School of Advanced Air and Space Studies and United States Army War College... He knows how to read a chart.

Here is the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ta/6450032002/.

[Golfinho]

And why is that? It is because Martin Luther King Sr told them to. Before that 1960 election most were Republican. And why did he tell them to? Because the Republican candidate Nixon would not help get his son out of jail, but the Democratic candidate Kennedy did. If it was not for that small moment in history, the Democratic party would probably not exist today.

You really believe blakmericans (you excepted, of course) are such petty herd animals that they would follow blindly, as you suggest?

[PVMonger]

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

Pleas explain why a potential voter showing a hunting license an a US birth certificate can get a photo ID and why another potential voter showing a college photo ID and a US birth certificate cannot get a photo ID?

We all want to take advantage of your superior wisdom.

[PVMonger]

60% is the norm but in some counties democrats had 110% of their registered voters vote. 2020 proved that the election did not follow the pattern of the last 50 years. 2020 was the only year ever that democrats had more votes in counties than they had registered voters. Seems strange to me too.

Give the BS a rest.

Your claim of more votes than voters has been debunked over and over, ad infinitum. "Your candidate lost. Too bad for you. Suck it up. Screw your feelings." Remember these same words from 2016?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/4097868001/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-s/4010087001/

[PVMonger]

Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?

By December 1 Department of State took down the chart. Amazing every time there is evidence of fraud that the democrats in Department of State removed the charts of the vote totals but it is easy to check that they received more than 100% of the ballots. Happened in Georgia also. This is USA Today a democratic newspaper that reported this.

Why post lies that are easily disproven in a 30-second internet search.

"The statistic combines data from Pennsylvania's June primary election, in which 1.8 million voters requested vote-by-mail ballots, and data from the general election, in which voters mailed back more than 2. 6 million ballots that were counted. " Quote taken from https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...HvWfDQNVOcVI0I.

[Canada]

More lies. Show which counties by their official tallies had this. Multiple Trump lawsuits alleged that more people voted in electorates than people on the rolls until they were confronted with the actual official tallies and were forced to withdraw the allegations. They had matched the wrong electorates.

Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?

By December 1 Department of State took down the chart. Amazing every time there is evidence of fraud that the democrats in Department of State removed the charts of the vote totals but it is easy to check that they received more than 100% of the ballots. Happened in Georgia also. This is USA Today a democratic newspaper that reported this.

[Golfinho]

Yet when all his is netted out, immigrants vote probably 3:1 democrat. This country has taken on tens of millions of immigrant voters since Kennedy changed the immigration system. The end result is that the equilibrium has been shifted and we have gone

Kennedy 'changed' it. The 1965 Immigration Act?

News that nearly 1,000 Chinese Americans donated a total of $86,000 to the far right group the Proud Boys last December shouldn't surprise anyone.

It should, however, worry Democrats.

Democrats have been counting heavily on shifting demographics with regard to their party's future. Their hope is that as America diversifies and becomes a less white nation, elections will trend Democratic. However, news of large numbers of Chinese Americans supporting white nationalist groups demonstrates once again that demographics are not that simple.

While it may seem illogical that a large number of non-whites would support the far right, a deep dive into the data helps explain this counterintuitive trend.

Immigrants who came to the USA From communist countries Cuba and China, foremost are likely to be fervent anti-communists, and are thus tailor made for right-wing politics, including extreme far-right groups like the Proud Boys.

"You have to understand how we feel. We came from communist China and we managed to come here and we appreciate it here so much," Rebecca Kwan, a Proud Boys donor told USA Today. "The Proud Boys are for Trump and they are fighting Antifa, and can you see anything good that Antifa did except destroy department stores and small businesses?

Newsweek suggested that the donors could be "radicalized Chinese expats or 'deeply conservative' Chinese Americans who support the misogyny and racism of far-right movements.

[BbqMushrooms]

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

That's why they banned handing out water bottles to voters in Georgia right? That's why they now ask for a voter ID in Texas right? That's why they gerrymander the hell out of counties to get more seats in the house right? That's why when they voted on Trump's impeachment they blocked witnesses from testifying right? That's why during the presidential elections of 2020 when people were afraid to go the polls due to coronavirus and counties started hosting mail-in voting, Trump posted his boy DeJoy in the White House who attempted to cripple the post office by dismantling mail sorting machines right? That's why Trump was caught on the phone trying to convince Georgia to "find him votes" right? That's why in 2000, Florida mysteriously removed 12,000 black voters from their register right? Because they want fair elections. Ahhh yes, how could I forget?

[GDreams]

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

So why do they need to Gerrymander? Why do they need to disenfranchise blocks of voters that traditionally don't vote for them?

[GDreams]

60% is the norm but in some counties democrats had 110% of their registered voters vote. 2020 proved that the election did not follow the pattern of the last 50 years. 2020 was the only year ever that democrats had more votes in counties than they had registered voters. Seems strange to me too.

More lies. Show which counties by their official tallies had this. Multiple Trump lawsuits alleged that more people voted in electorates than people on the rolls until they were confronted with the actual official tallies and were forced to withdraw the allegations. They had matched the wrong electorates.

[Canada]

Why do you try to put words in my mouth?

First, other countries have a standardized approach to their Federal ID process. Virtually all states require 2 forms of ID to register to vote. Only an idiot would say that showing up with a hunting license and a birth certificate is "good" but showing up with a student ID and a birth certificate is "bad". And my question STILL REMAINS. Why are Republicans so against this? By the way, I never said anything about voting in another country's elections.

Maybe if you spent more time learning and less time bloviating, you'd make fewer ridiculous statements.

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

[Canada]

This is the most insane argument that I have ever heard. Do you realize that only 60 to 70 percent of those eligible to vote actually vote in America? There is even less participation in local elections. Why would a foreigner in the USA risk their right to stay in America performing an act that citizens don't even value themselves? You are arguing that people are irrational. They don't pursue their own self-interest.

60% is the norm but in some counties democrats had 110% of their registered voters vote. 2020 proved that the election did not follow the pattern of the last 50 years. 2020 was the only year ever that democrats had more votes in counties than they had registered voters. Seems strange to me too.