American Politics

[Mr Enternational]

It's not so much that racism is innate. It's that "otherness" is innate.

You would think mfs on a traveling website would easily observe this and it would not be ao easy to pull the wool over their eyes. As if you go to Nigeria, Philippines, Korea, Singapore, India, Bulgaria, or any other homogeneous country all the citizens are living together harmoniously. Nope. Mfs over there are discriminating among each other for whatever reason they see fit. Why are people from all over the world breaking their necks to get to America for it to be such a terribly raciat place? Travelers should easily be able to distinguish the forest from the trees; but evidently they can't.

[Beijing4987]

Fat Nixon will experience the same fate as General Douglas McArthur: "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" Try as they will to gerrymander and suppress the minority and marginalized voters, they have lost the independents and suburban women.

[Chris P]

The party is dead.

I think you'll find from the last election that the Republican party is in control of the majority of state legislatures and governorships; very nearly won back the House and is 50/50 in the Senate and will win back both in 2022; and "lost" the White House due to unconstitutionality and fraud which is currently being unpicked, first in Arizona and soon elsewhere.

The GOP is the party of the American people. The only way the democrats can defeat it is by letting in millions of illegals in addition to the 30 million already in the country and allowing them all to vote illegally, which is of course the reason they want to ban all voter ID and other election integrity measures.

[Chris P]

Why aren't you complaining about "Democratic run" cities in states that voted for Donnie? Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Columbus, Kansas City, Louisville, etc.

Are you saying that "large scale fraud" was committed only in Democratic-run cities in states that Donnie LOST? That fraud was committed in Phoenix but not in Houston?.

LOL. Think about what you are saying. There probably was fraud in democrat-run cities in Texas and elsewhere (all of these places are corrupt shitholes after all) but the rest of Texas was so overwhelmingly pro-Trump that they couldn't get their corpse over the line. But in smaller / closer states, they could. As Trump himself recently mentioned, he was well ahead in Michigan until the count was inexplicably stopped after midnight, and then at 6 am a dump of 150,000 votes appeared in Detroit (in the same counting centre which notoriously boarded up its windows so that people couldn't see in), of which 96% were for Biden. 96%. LOL.

That is simply laughable. If it happened in some corrupt, bankrupt third world banana republic, people would literally laugh. Which is apt, because Detroit is indeed a corrupt, bankrupt third world banana republic.

[Chris P]

The squealer is you and your fellow blablablabla

Calm down, stop squealing, and let the Arizona recount play out. Then we will see who really won. Then we will do the same in Nevada, Michigan and elsewhere.

[Chris P]

The American people deserve better than to have chronic liars, individuals without a sliver of integrity repeating long debunked lies over and over in order to secure political power for themselves. It's not even about Repubs and Dems, socialists and capitalists anymore. It's about flagrant crooks versus public servants. It's time to vote them out. It's also about Repubs with any degree of ethics reclaiming their party. She is a liar, as are all who persist in pushing these viral, social media fantasies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ds-told-jan-6/

Everything Stefanik said in her quote was true. The democrats and fake news cannot rebut it point by point, so instead they just shriek "lies!" 30 years ago this worked out well for them, because they had total control of the media. Then in the 1990's talk radio, Fox News and in particular the internet came about, freeing up information. Unfortunately the censorious left has struck back, by bringing much of the once-free internet into Big Tech social media companies, which they then use to censor political content, up to and including the sitting President of the United States.

Fortunately, despite the endless censorship, recent polls show a majority of Americans know the election was rigged (the reality is higher but many will not admit it because of negative professional consequences, or are democrats who are happy at the cheating). President Trump's approval ratings in the GOP remain sky-high for good reason, and the RINO deep state establishment warmonger types who betrayed him are being sent packing. Cheney will soon be out the door, as will Romney judging by the magnificent booing he received from the Utah GOP.

[Mursenary]

I'm not one to confirm that racism is innate. Put some very small black, white, and Asian children together in a daycare or park and they'll play just fine. And any disagreements that develop won't relate to physical characteristics. Racism that includes discrimination is learned. To see this only compare many a Southern Cal white child from a progressive home with a typical one from the heart of the Deep South, somewhere like Mississippi or rural Louisiana, "we don't believe it mixing, the bible says so!" and the gap is wide. Send the Mississippi kid to Southern Cal at birth, adopted by the progressive family and the results will likely be very different.

As to all of society's problems being laid undeservedly at the feet of whites, I'll speak to you directly and colloquially. Stop sucking up affirming their exaggerated victimization mindset. I know you grew up in the south and feel like you are on the inside, but you are not. Is funny when you hear dumb white teenagers complaining about Black History Month asking "where is ours? The answer? "You have it every day of the week. "lolol A lot need to drop all these Trumpian fantasies and meet some folks of other races halfway. Everyone has a part to play.

It's not so much that racism is innate. It's that "otherness" is innate. When kids learn to associate otherness with race, then that manifests into racism. You see it in Southern California too. It's not like the stereotype. People still separate into communities so large that they don't have to interact much on a personal basis.

Well, I grew up in a black community so being white is definitely not it. I've lived all sides man, bartended black night clubs, got one degree from an HBCU. I've lived the best and worst of both sides. So I'm anything but a Twinkie. I know it wasn't always this way. White people are on the defensive right now. It can only be expected. That's not an excuse, that's a reality. There's no pity party from me, but I'm not going to hang innocent men either. Minorities know what it's like to walk around thinking, "hey, don't put me into one of your negative stereotypes. ". So I have no interest in forcing that energy onto someone else.

I've had so many good influences (and bad) living in both communities. My experience is not so critical of one side as yours. I can tear both apart but why do I have to, when popular media has clearly done plenty of criticism already? At the same time, it's a bit taboo to criticize minority groups in casual / popular conversation. I'll say the things no one wants to say / admit.

[Paulie97]

Why aren't you complaining about "Democratic run" cities in states that voted for Donnie? Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Columbus, Kansas City, Louisville, etc.

Are you saying that "large scale fraud" was committed only in Democratic-run cities in states that Donnie LOST? That fraud was committed in Phoenix but not in Houston?

Can I have some of what you're smokin? That really must be some good s**t!

They are going to whine until hell freezes over. The only thing to do is keep beating the frauds at the polls. That while opposing congressional district gerrymandering and the often bigoted voter suppression efforts. It's work but well worth it.

[Paulie97]

This is why they are squealing.

The squealer is you and your fellow pseudo "patriots," from election week onward crying about the election you lost, with all court cases and official recounts going against you. See the attached photo, and put your head and that of every fake patriot in place of Trump's and there you have it. Yes Democrats are observing and what they are seeing and hearing is laughable, as wholly untrained, partisan buffoons put on this farse that will have no bearing on the outcome of the election, which wasn't close. We are laughing, still enjoying the victory along with your desperation. Let us know how the bamboo paper analysis comes out. We are having the time of our lives. LOL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a01_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-more-bizarre/

[Paulie97]

Facts. Solid facts. I'll say that as an Asian Am, traditional Asians are some of the most judgmental people. Naturally, racism does not escape my race. It may be amongst the worst actually.

It's frustrating when so many white friends and colleagues refuse to recognize the problem. It's as if some feel that it is an indictment on them individually. It's usually not.

Like you're said, we're tribal by evolution. But I think it goes even further. I always describe humans as pack animals so it's natural to have reservations regarding others and affinity toward your own. And as you alluded, we're also cerebral animals so our actions are what matters most. Denying the issue just hinders progress.

That being said, politics and certain special interest groups unnecessarily make everything about race. I would imagine that it is very unappealing as a white man to bend down and be the scapegoat for all of society's problems.

I'm not one to confirm that racism is innate. Put some very small black, white, and Asian children together in a daycare or park and they'll play just fine. And any disagreements that develop won't relate to physical characteristics. Racism that includes discrimination is learned. To see this only compare many a Southern Cal white child from a progressive home with a typical one from the heart of the Deep South, somewhere like Mississippi or rural Louisiana, "we don't believe it mixing, the bible says so!" and the gap is wide. Send the Mississippi kid to Southern Cal at birth, adopted by the progressive family and the results will likely be very different.

It's also possible for life experiences to change a person. This is a very rare case where I'll insert a personal anecdote to make a point. I was raised in a typical white southern home, though a bit more progressive, not the Deep South. Racist attitudes were taught. Then I became a robbery victim. The first question people usually ask when I talk about it "were they black?" and the answer, "no they were white as the driven snow. " Which is typical by the way, as statistics prove we are very much more likely to be victimized by someone of our own race. But after that I just cringed when racist whites came with sayings like "white people just don't so stuff like that," or in response to a good deed, "that was mighty white of you. " That can't gel with me as like a black man I worked under told me "assholes know no color. " Plus I'm convinced that people have the capacity to change. Life experiences, either for the good or the bad can alter attitudes. And it's my objective to judge by content of character rather then physical characteristics, which is perfectly reasonable.

Also some cultures have been more ethno-centric and segregationist than others. The Brits historically were much more than the French and Spanish, as is seen in the greater assimilation in the Louisiana Territory.

As to all of society's problems being laid undeservedly at the feet of whites, I'll speak to you directly and colloquially. Stop sucking up affirming their exaggerated victimization mindset. I know you grew up in the south and feel like you are on the inside, but you are not. Is funny when you hear dumb white teenagers complaining about Black History Month asking "where is ours? The answer? "You have it every day of the week. "lolol A lot need to drop all these Trumpian fantasies and meet some folks of other races halfway. Everyone has a part to play.

[Mursenary]

If you don't believe in that there is extensive racism then you are the most deluded person on the planet. I am racist though I try to suppress it in my daily life. I'm sure blacks are racist against whites and Asians. I'm sure Asians are racist. It's an inbuilt tribal behaviour to distrust those who are different. It is how we behave towards one another that dictates whether it becomes a systematic problem. Your denial and deflection is just a hindrance to achieving a more harmonious society.

Facts. Solid facts. I'll say that as an Asian Am, traditional Asians are some of the most judgmental people. Naturally, racism does not escape my race. It may be amongst the worst actually.

It's frustrating when so many white friends and colleagues refuse to recognize the problem. It's as if some feel that it is an indictment on them individually. It's usually not.

Like you're said, we're tribal by evolution. But I think it goes even further. I always describe humans as pack animals so it's natural to have reservations regarding others and affinity toward your own. And as you alluded, we're also cerebral animals so our actions are what matters most. Denying the issue just hinders progress.

That being said, politics and certain special interest groups unnecessarily make everything about race. I would imagine that it is very unappealing as a white man to bend down and be the scapegoat for all of society's problems.

[PVMonger]

The Arizona recount is a heroic effort by patriots who have refused to stop fighting for truth and justice despite endless obstruction from well-funded democrat lawyers and fake news media. It is clear that in Maricopa County, as in Nevada, Georgia and elsewhere, large scale fraud was committed in democrat-controlled cities. The fact that they are attempting to block a recount tells you all you need to know. If they were confident in the result they would be happy to carry it out.

Certain leftists on here have blathered about "procedures" and "independent oversight", all of which are obfuscation and stalling tactics. The only "procedure" which needs to be carried out is that the votes need to be counted. Democrats are welcome to watch the count. But they are not welcome to rig it, as was the case in November. This is why they are squealing. I look forward to the results from Arizona, and to further such recounts in other states stolen by the handlers of former Vice-President Biden.

Why aren't you complaining about "Democratic run" cities in states that voted for Donnie? Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Columbus, Kansas City, Louisville, etc.

Are you saying that "large scale fraud" was committed only in Democratic-run cities in states that Donnie LOST? That fraud was committed in Phoenix but not in Houston?

Can I have some of what you're smokin? That really must be some good s**t!

[Paulie97]

The party is dead. Hopefully the leaders don't take everyone with them as they go down in flames. Never would I have thought that Mitt Romney would remain as the last few voices of reason.

Now what I fear is unchecked Democrat rule. No interest in the vision that the AOC / Bernie branch will push forward. But perhaps if the social justice courting can be checked, the more moderate branch can focus on authentic parts of the platform.

We are in agreement, center-right, center, and center left working together with fringe voices where they belong, fringe. We need a strong, credible conservative party to make that work. At present theirs a swamp to drain, meaning these nativist, isolationist, conspiracy theorist, dogged peddlers of various fantasies.

[Paulie97]

Fucking hilarious.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/polit...ate/index.html

[Mursenary]

The American people deserve better than to have chronic liars, individuals without a sliver of integrity repeating long debunked lies over and over in order to secure political power for themselves. It's not even about Repubs and Dems, socialists and capitalists anymore. It's about flagrant crooks versus public servants. It's time to vote them out. It's also about Repubs with any degree of ethics reclaiming their party. She is a liar, as are all who persist in pushing these viral, social media fantasies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ds-told-jan-6/

The party is dead. Hopefully the leaders don't take everyone with them as they go down in flames. Never would I have thought that Mitt Romney would remain as the last few voices of reason.

Now what I fear is unchecked Democrat rule. No interest in the vision that the AOC / Bernie branch will push forward. But perhaps if the social justice courting can be checked, the more moderate branch can focus on authentic parts of the platform.