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01-25-21 15:58 #2018
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
On the flip, his worst policies are really, really bad and at best, short sighted (fossil fuels over renewable energy). He's too impulsive and only sees what's immediately in front of him, incapable of controlling primal instincts to strategically think 2 steps ahead. His international policies alienated every major powerful ally and one more term would have guaranteed that America would be left on an island with only 2nd rate economic allies that just relied on American exploitation of weak nations. Look at the band of misfit nations that remained allied with us. Turkey? Brasil? A bunch of South American nations? We only retained them because they had few other options. Meanwhile, China controls the Pacific, owns African infrastructure, and are diligently making headway in our own backyard propping up failing South American nations.
It's not 1960 anymore where America was the sole capitalist superpower. America now needs the world more than the world needs America. Europe knows this and is working to free themselves of American influence directly due to Trump's erratic and predictably unpredictable policies.
Don't let the disgusting odor of liberal identity politics cloud your judgement. A thriving America geared towards growth needs a healthy blend of self reliance, making use of our own natural resources, and free market innovation while strategically deploying social / socialist policies and embracing some the the inevitable trend towards globalism. We can't just isolate ourselves and exploit weaker nations. We have to play the game or else see our rivals unite and leave us behind.
Can't win the game if you don't play the game.
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01-25-21 15:25 #2017
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
While Trump took credit for the "economic boom" during his presidency, was it due to his policies? Mostly No, he merely took credit for the decent work of the Obama policies. They weren't perfect, but even a conservative policy leaner such as myself can admit that Obama generally did a fine job supporting the industries that were essential for American prosperity.
The stock market went bonkers during the last 3 months of the Trump presidency. I personally saw a 60% jump in my portfolio. Did Trump do anything that led to that? I think not. In fact, the crazy rally correlated with optimism for a future Biden administration.
Look at the 2008 economic downturn. What was the main reason for that recession? Deregulation of banking policies that led to irresponsible lending of mortgages. What policy allowed for that? The "repeal" of the Glass-Steagall Act that eventually led to commercial banks being allowed to dip into investment banking and insurance. Which president allowed for that to happen? Bill Clinton in 1999.
Reagan's superfluous spending and warmongering in key oil regions led to the early 90's recessions.
What caused the early 80's double dip recession? The ridiculously high inflation caused during the Carter administration.
The cycle goes on and on as you trace back economic trends throughout the 20th century.
But here's the reality, most of the 20th century economic crises were due to either world events that caused oil price shocks and various policies by the Federal Reserve, an institution more or less independent of the sitting President.
Point is, blaming or crediting political parties for economic success and failures for events during their tenure is both rudimentary and inaccurate.
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01-25-21 15:22 #2016
Posts: 1604Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]
Show me evidence. Show me the same type of evidence against the Democrats that they are using against Trump.
I'll wait.
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01-25-21 07:05 #2015
Posts: 1184Originally Posted by Detwing1 [View Original Post]
I'm sure that the Republicans are aware that they have nothing to gain from more immigration and affirmative action.
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01-25-21 05:42 #2014
Posts: 111Couldn't have said it better
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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01-25-21 04:56 #2013
Posts: 5454The Social Issues Are Generally For Suckers
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
By stark contrast, Dem policies, legislation and stewardship have lead the USA Into the exact opposite of the above disastrous, typical Repub results for the past 100 years.
This is no wild coincidence, bizarre anti-Repub economic "cycle", bad luck for Repubs or witch's curse. It is what Repub pols do for a living. It is the only thing they can do. It is the only thing they want to do. And they will always identify and embrace a new and unprecedented way of accomplishing it whenever the American electorate is foolish and careless enough to give them the opportunity.
The Social Issues they exploit to get you riled up about (transgender toilets?) is just a means to sucker you into supporting and voting for their horrific economic outcomes over and over again in blitheringly dutiful service to combating "evil libs" when no sane, clear thinking person would otherwise.
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01-25-21 03:58 #2012
Posts: 690Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
His great gains in unemployment were at the cost of adding $500 b to the annual deficit. Even then he only achieved one year of +3% GDP growth. The rest of the time it has been low 2's or less which Trump said of Obama achieving similar the Obama was a failure even though he shronk the deficit by 600 b a year rather than expand it. So by Trumps own criteria he failed.
Current account deficit grew significantly under Trump because of his nonsense trade wars. Fail.
Environmental policy. Fail.
Health policy. Fail.
Foreign policy. Fail.
Domestic policy. Fail. People are more partisan and divided than ever.
Immigration. I would call it a fail but others would disagree. The reality is the border wall he wanted he could of had but would not accept DACA so instead most construction has gone on replacing existing barriers. Pretty much a waste of time anyway as most illegals are visa overstays and smuggling is done through the border crossings. Much of the rest is debatable. It is more about the processes employed than the outcomes.
As Trump was incapable of working with democrats most of what he did was by executive orders. Most of these will be over-ridden by Biden in the next month.
So basically 4 years of manbaby tantrums to achieve no lasting benefit.
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01-25-21 03:41 #2011
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Don't let Trump steal your future votes.
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01-25-21 03:38 #2010
Posts: 111Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
It is what it is.
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01-25-21 03:21 #2009
Posts: 1119FBI and Experts, warn about far-right militants and white-supremacist
"Experts in homegrown extremism have warned for years about efforts by far-right militants and white-supremacist groups to radicalize and recruit people with military and law enforcement training, and they say the Jan. 6 insurrection that left five people dead saw some of their worst fears realized."
https://apnews.com/article/ex-milita...1edead5badc257
With the FBI, doing a deep dive, no doubt more evidence will come to light, with regards to the Jan. 6 insurrection, being a pre-meditated and coordinated plan of attack, on the Capitol.
The herrings will bring to light and uncover how "Agent Orange", maybe involved.
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01-25-21 02:18 #2008
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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01-25-21 02:16 #2007
Posts: 407Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
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01-25-21 02:02 #2006
Posts: 1119Hit the "ignore button
Originally Posted by Detwing1 [View Original Post]
SB, is after all the arch "chief-agent-agent provocateur".
Providing he behaves him and doesn't act like a petulant child, let him continue denying the truth.
It is his truths, as he sees it.
You may just have to hit the "ignore button" on him. Or me, for that matter...Kkk!
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01-25-21 01:58 #2005
Posts: 1119"Agent Orange", Worst President says "The Terminator"
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01-25-21 01:24 #2004
Posts: 1068I agree with you
Originally Posted by Detwing1 [View Original Post]