Thread: Rio de Janeiro - Gringo Management Apartments
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07-26-08 01:03 #171
Posts: 376fair reporting
Originally Posted by Piper1
As for my problems:
About 30% of the time I was not put in the apartment that I reserved. David always pushes to get the deposit early but apparently there is no reciprocal respect there.
About two times I had a very long wait for my driver from the airport (well over an hour). One time I was just about to say screw it and take a cab when Bruno showed up. It was a good thing I did not take a cab because I was put into a totally different apartment. That would have been a little inconvenient.
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07-25-08 19:53 #170
Posts: 4050Fair and objective reporting
Originally Posted by TJ Fannatic
But I wouldn't call it an argument. Bubba Boy has his own point of view based on pals' experience years ago. I simply reported my own research and recent first-hand experience, and objectively commented on inaccuracies about the number of complainers on this thread (there only three). Simple as that - no argument and no hard feelings.
The only genuine comments by gringomanagement customers in this thread were from 18 members who were satisfied customers and three who were not (and keep in mind that satisfied customers don't usually make the effort to post, but unsatisfied customers do, so I'm sure there are many more satisfied members).
As for overkill - yes - this thread is riddled with BS, flaming, several false usernames, and irrelevant comments by people who had never even heard of gringomanagement or ever visited Rio. Instead of digging up a very old and unbalanced flame-war here, it would be more useful to ISG members for people to do their own research, stay whereever they decide, then write a report in the correct thread.
Maybe a few mistakes were made, especially in the early days some years ago (happens in any business, and a good manager will act on genuine negative feedback to minimize further mistakes).
I recommend gringomanagement for good apartments at very good prices, and excellent service.
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07-25-08 19:27 #169
Posts: 845Overkill yes
I am neutral on Gringo. However, I do try to make references to my experiences, generally positive, when a newbie asks. I also issue warnings.
I do not think it is incorrect, as Bubba implies, to discuss Gringo in the hotel/apartment thread.
When people ask questions about Gringo then we should answer if asked in the hotel/apartment thread. This argument (discussion is a better, more accurate term as Piper mentions in subsequent post) between Piper and Bubba began when a person asked about the apartment Piper stayed in. At that point the correct website was mentioned.
How can that be wrong?
Yes, gringo has its own thread. But I remember the thread being started awhile back when some people were making serious negative comments about Gringo. And I think Dave was still responding at the time. This thread has not proven Gringo to be any worse than other large-scale renters. Moreover, it seems most of the complaints never mention the apartment they stayed in, which is odd given the website has addresses and numbers the apartments.
Those with positive or neutral responses seem to mention more information that can be verified!
And as I have said it seems to me that the problems usually arise when a person rents late in high season and/or a person on the ground in Rio (not the owner) makes a bait/switch on the apartment (happened to me once). But then again the complainers usually provide little or no info.
(For example, one guy just wrote in response to something I said that "David S. is a crook." How so, was my thought.)
The subject of Gringo can and will continue to arise in the apartment/hotel section and questions should be answered. If you want to point them to this thread that is fine. But to maintain that you can only mention Gringo in this thread is wrong.
TJ
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07-23-08 20:58 #168
Posts: 511Overkill
Sometimes we get on topics that seem to go on and on, like this Gringo Management one. I mentioned my experience over a year ago, and it was positive. I have to agree with Bubba Boy that a 25% failure rate is unacceptable from a business standpoint. Based on that, if we accept this as factual, that means one out of every four renters will have a negative experience. This isn't a pattern I'd want to be recognized for as a business owner.
I do think with the exception of return renters, most are non-seasoned renters, who like me, found the website on accident. As a seasoned renter now, I have a few people that I deal with that don't run huge agencies. As a whole, the larger places attempt to take advantage of the lack of knowledge that renters have as newbies to Rio. There are still those that post questions asking about GM without reading the thread. At best, you should realize there MAY be some suspect activities going on.
ryjer
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07-23-08 16:58 #167
Posts: 1364Piper- reply from other thread
For the record I have never rented from this guy. I had 2 seperate friends that did and they got the old bait and switch routine. This is the number 1 complaint against Gringo M. Since then I have come across numerous other people that have rented from him, the per centage of complaints would be about 25%. Yes 75% had no compliants. However a 25% complaint rate is just way to high.
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07-23-08 16:24 #166
Posts: 140Mongers-
I have rented apartments from Gringo Management 3 times in the past 10 months and I can honestly say that the service has been excellent and exactly has it was presented to be on his website each and every time. I also have never met David, but he has always come through when I needed his services, one time even on 1 days notice. I do not understand why some posters here seem dedicated to posting libelous remarks about his services. In September 2007 I rented ¨lounge six¨, located on the corner of Joaquim Nabuco and Avenida Copacabana. In June and July of 2008 I rented the apartment at Souza Lima and Avenida Atlantica. Both places were exactly as represented and I was completely satisfied with both.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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07-23-08 15:04 #165
Posts: 4050Originally Posted by Bubba Boy
Before deciding on gringomanagement's service from many other choices, I did some research and found there were many satisfied customers. Anyway, I'm not here to drag up an old grudge from years ago, just to report things how I see them based on my own research and first-hand experience. Keep up the great reports on Rio - your guide was very helpful during my stay! Thanks.
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07-23-08 14:45 #164
Posts: 1364Answer to Piper's comments posted in another thread
Answer to Piper's comments posted in another thread (lets keep all this crap in the one place please)
Originally Posted by Piper1
With all respect you rented 1 apartment from him. Not really a meaningful sample.
You are also not aware of the major shit that this guy did about 3 years ago. His name was just consistently complained about across many websites, not just this one, in that time period. There were no compliments at all for his service then.
In regards to compliments for his service now, many, many of those compliments came from David himself. Look at the number of compliments with less than 10 posts and the majority of them about Gringo singing there praises.
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01-13-08 00:11 #163
Posts: 2025Originally Posted by TJ Fannatic
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01-12-08 23:06 #162
Posts: 2345Originally Posted by TJ Fannatic
I´ve never suffered an electric scam but it´s kinda hard to prove. If you get a private landlord, try getting electric included by promising (honestly) to go easy on the air-conditioning.
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01-12-08 21:23 #161
Posts: 845rent-a-flat.com.br
Originally Posted by Christopherd
The only issue I had was that the manager was gone when I check out and the flunkie working that day tried to skim my deposit. Basically he lied about the electric meter! When that did not work he tried to claim I made a mark on the wall. Actually, the couch cover had stained the wall, something that would take a long time, not 1 week!
I got real angry and left a furious message with the manager who I think no longer will rent to me, which is a shame given I did nothing wrong. The flunkie just wanted some extra cash.
Here is the one I had. Clean and nice. I stayed during a high season for only $50. Not oceanfront, but ok.
Oh, yeah, you can see the damned blue couch in the picture which has been there for years now. That flunkie is still probably pulling that stained wall scam!
http://rentaflat.com.br/detalhes_imo...1027&negocio=3
TJ
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01-11-08 12:36 #160
Posts: 313JohnnyBraz
rentflatinrio.com is not owned or operated by Help Disco. the guy that owns it is from Amsterdam and pays to advertise on Helps website.
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01-08-08 08:50 #159
Posts: 372rentflatinrio.com
Has anybody used rentflatinrio.com they are on the help discoteca website as help apartments. Let me know if you have used them, I've booked a 3 week stay in Rio with them. In Febuary.
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01-08-08 08:26 #158
Posts: 1430Originally Posted by Loso69
GM - LONG ON PROMISES - SHORT ON DELIVERY.
MORAL - DO NOT USE THEM.
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01-08-08 01:54 #157
Posts: 2345Originally Posted by TJ Fannatic
I only mention his as lots of people ask and of all the agencies I've dealt with his is probably one of the best. He adjusted the time to whatever length I wanted. I don't think he does less than a week if he doesn't know you already though. He has also done things like waive deposit. Just go into the offices and compare - Felipe doesn't pressure you and he does have a large number of flats. Of course, I can't vouch 100% for anyone, especially for all the punters who insist on renting unseen. But as I said there are a lot of jokers and I thought I'd just put tuppence in, for what it's worth, on someone I've never had any complaints with.