Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[PilotPaul]

I'd also caution anyone on putting any effort into meeting a girl or diverting plans in any way. It's a certainty she will be hours late and give you misinformation about her location and how far away she is. Just tell her to call when she has arrived at a nearby location, get on with what you are doing and only go down to meet her when and if she arrives. Stories abound of guys sitting waiting in their hotel rooms for hours, messaging her repeatedly to confirm if she is on the way and her location, only to have wasted half a day when she doesn't show.

Enjoy. G.

This is excellent information. Focus on doing what you enjoy, going about your business, working online etc etc. The girls are unreliable.

PP.

[Goferring]

..... From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.
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Another arranged to meet with me at MOA, but then took me on a prolonged game of hide-and-seek. I lost.

Good information. Just to expand on a couple of your points:

I've given up on making contact ahead of time. Now I don't even message a girl unless I'm in town and ready to meet her today or tomorrow. This gives a much greater success rate as they know I am serious and cuts down on the BS as there is less time for distractions and calamities requiring my urgent financial help.

I'd also caution anyone on putting any effort into meeting a girl or diverting plans in any way. It's a certainty she will be hours late and give you misinformation about her location and how far away she is. Just tell her to call when she has arrived at a nearby location, get on with what you are doing and only go down to meet her when and if she arrives. Stories abound of guys sitting waiting in their hotel rooms for hours, messaging her repeatedly to confirm if she is on the way and her location, only to have wasted half a day when she doesn't show.

Enjoy. G.

[Chocha Monger]

If you want fast fucks, why waste time shifting through the huge pile of shit tailings in search of diamonds online when you can point-and-fuck at the bars?

Online dating here still feels like digging through a huge pile of sh $t for a diamond. It's very time consuming. I think I'm getting a little better, though, at identifying the problems earlier and improving my list of "best practices. " The goal is not to maximize every opportunity, but to decrease the time spent per happy encounter.

First, there are the virgins, or wannabee virgins. They want to meet you outside, sometimes with a cousin. I always reject the cousin, but I've been willing to meet outside. Those have turned out to be hard to get, though. From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.

Second, there are the scammers and leaches. Obviously, asking for money before meeting earns an immediate block. I will pay taxi on arrival or book a grab though. I'm also thinking that any implication that they will need an allowance is a bad sign. My sample size is only one, but the urgent need for money was never ending. Maybe a good test is to ask her the price of something, implying you'll give her the money. But you already know the real price (for example, something like 1000+ taxi for a passport)..

[Pwrmnd]

Online dating here still feels like digging through a huge pile of sh $t for a diamond. It's very time consuming. I think I'm getting a little better, though, at identifying the problems earlier and improving my list of "best practices. " The goal is not to maximize every opportunity, but to decrease the time spent per happy encounter.

First, there are the virgins, or wannabee virgins. They want to meet you outside, sometimes with a cousin. I always reject the cousin, but I've been willing to meet outside. Those have turned out to be hard to get, though. From talking with others here, I'm coming around to the idea that it's better to just invite them to the hotel right away, or to "stay overnight", and use that as a filter. I'll miss out on a few, but my hit rate will go way up.

Second, there are the scammers and leaches. Obviously, asking for money before meeting earns an immediate block. I will pay taxi on arrival or book a grab though. I'm also thinking that any implication that they will need an allowance is a bad sign. My sample size is only one, but the urgent need for money was never ending. Maybe a good test is to ask her the price of something, implying you'll give her the money. But you already know the real price (for example, something like 1000+ taxi for a passport).

Third, there are the flakes. Many say they will meet but then just disappear. Maybe they chickened out, or maybe they have a lot of other bfs lined up. Whatever the reason, they are much quicker to agree to meet than to actually meet.

Fourth, some turn out to be semi-pros at the last minute. Maybe they just didn't want to admit it up front. It's not bad to have a list of back-up plan contacts, but they should at least be really hot and, preferably, low mileage.

Other "best practices": They must use whatsapp, must send clear pictures (face and body), and must video chat in advance.

Some of the stories and behaviors are really amusing, at least to me. One complained of how difficult it is being on the edge of bankruptcy, while playing on her 10 k Peso phone. English problems and thinking problems can be a huge hassle. One said "I'm arriving", causing me to run downstairs, when she actually meant "I'm departing. " Another arranged to meet with me at MOA, but then took me on a prolonged game of hide-and-seek. I lost.

[Engine Driver]

Like others, I've often pondered the 'Why do they do it" question and have no firm answer. However, I think it speaks to some deep-seated emotional need on the part of the foreign guys, most of whom likely have no woman who "loves" them back home. Ive come to think that these guys are trying to solve their own problems; that the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the women. Probably as with many others here, Ive met (and bedded) women whose boyfriends have never set foot in this country and likely never will, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.

There's also the amusement value and light entertainment in seeing where all this might lead. The concept of giving money to damsels in distress is new and exciting for many mongers. Besides, for many mongers, the money involved is chicken shit, so it doesn't matter. It's not always related to loneliness back at home. There's plenty of women who love me here. Honest. LOL.

The Urban Dictionary defines damsel in distress as “a usually beautiful, virginal, virtuous, and hopelessly passive young woman constantly in need of rescue by the dashing hero”. Sums it up perfectly

[Mr Enternational]

the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the women

Well GE, I have reported before of women telling me they do not ask some men for anything, but they insist on sending them money and buying them shit.

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[Goferring]

, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.

Yep. I think the term 'Sugar Daddy' is very apt. It's an indication of many guys' driver and can be more of a mental state than occupation: providing sweetness and sustenance to a defenseless and innocent young girl. Most of us know this couldn't be further from the truth.

Cheers. G.

[GoodEnough]

I've never understood what problems guys are trying to solve with these cash payments from the other side of the world:

Reserve a position in line upon return? Become a higher priority customer? Guarantee a GFE or PSE? These are all going to be available when the monger arrives in country and is there, cash in hand, standing in front of the girl. No security deposit or prepayment is required:

Keep Annalyn out of the bar? Save her from an unjust world? Heal incredibly illness prone family members? Ain't going to happen. They are complete fabrications and the monger is never going to receive what he thinks he is paying for.

The only exception I have seen is where guys are very frequent / resident visitors and direct pay utility bills / school fees etc. They know that what they are paying for is legit and often receive discounted and ongoing services as the repayment plan. As likely many others here, Ive met (and bedded) women whose boyfriends have never been here and who are never likely to come. Many of the men seem to find some sort of emotional comfort in thinking they have a girlfriend. The weirdness quotient speaks more to the emotional neediness of the men than to the greed of the women I think.

Enjoy. G.

Like others, I've often pondered the 'Why do they do it" question and have no firm answer. However, I think it speaks to some deep-seated emotional need on the part of the foreign guys, most of whom likely have no woman who "loves" them back home. I’ve come to think that these guys are trying to solve their own problems; that the sending of money and the erroneous belief that this engenders some sort of fidelity and caring speaks more to their emotional needs than it does to intrinsic greed on the part of the women. Probably as with many others here, I’ve met (and bedded) women whose “boyfriends” have never set foot in this country and likely never will, but who seem to fill some sort of emotional void by speaking with the women daily.

[PedroMorales]

Why make excuses? Just let no be no. If a chick asks me for money I tell them I have my own bills to pay. I don't go to work to pay the bills that Mary Jane Rottencrotch has made for herself..

You should be kinder to these lovely women and you yourself. A box of chocolates, some mallings, Western Union, some gold, soft words, light touches, Jolibee, a little Red Horse. Sometimes I think only we Europeans are civilised. We know the delicate look, the romance of silence, the value of women.

Is Rottencrotch a common name in the Philippines?

[Engine Driver]

When I asked her why someone would buy her a $10 k ticket to fly via LHR to SIN for a DH job that pays almost nothing she said that's the ticket the contract agency sent her. I blocked her and moved on. I am much wiser today than back then but it's a story worth remembering for those who have big hearts and not a lot of experience in this area.

That is too funny. These girls are so stupid, that it's all quite amusing to watch. A maids' salary in Singapore is SGD $600 per month. So the airfare is more than a year's salary. I can just imagine a rich Chinese Madam bringing out the cheap Filipina maid from London on first class. ROFL.

[WestCoast1]

Test post, test post.

[Goferring]

That whole thing of sending money to chicks has always been way over my head. Don't we raise our kids to grow up and take care of themselves?

I've never understood what problems guys are trying to solve with these cash payments from the other side of the world:

Reserve a position in line upon return? Become a higher priority customer? Guarantee a GFE or PSE? These are all going to be available when the monger arrives in country and is there, cash in hand, standing in front of the girl. No security deposit or prepayment is required:

Keep Annalyn out of the bar? Save her from an unjust world? Heal incredibly illness prone family members? Ain't going to happen. They are complete fabrications and the monger is never going to receive what he thinks he is paying for.

The only exception I have seen is where guys are very frequent / resident visitors and direct pay utility bills / school fees etc. They know that what they are paying for is legit and often receive discounted and ongoing services as the repayment plan.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

Right now my usual excuse has been my bank has forbidden and blacklisted me sending money overseas. Do not know how much they believe it but I am sticking to it.

Why make excuses? Just let no be no. If a chick asks me for money I tell them I have my own bills to pay. I don't go to work to pay the bills that Mary Jane Rottencrotch has made for herself.

That whole thing of sending money to chicks has always been way over my head. Don't we raise our kids to grow up and take care of themselves? So why take care of some grown ass person living on the other side of the world that you hardly see? I work to have money to spend on myself; I don't get my ass out the bed at 3:30am some days and work all night some days to have money for someone else to spend on themselves.

And it is not just us guys sending it to females. Gay guys from western countries do the same shit for the guys they see in all the countries that we go monger in. So it is more of a give me some of what you have since you have more than me thing.

I have a nurse chick in Colombia. At first she didn't ask me for money, then she said she was behind on a bill and I said no. After that she said she had to pay something for her son's school and I said no. Two months ago she had surgery on her wrist and needed some medicine and I said no. Two days ago she was robbed when she went to get her salary out of the ATM. This time she didn't even ask, because she already knows the answer would be NO. And no many how many times I tell her no, she just will not die, or get sick, or get put out of the house, or get her cell phone reposesed, or no other shit that could happen to a chick because she did not receive money from you.

[Goferring]

One of the reasons I kill off my Philippines persona every year or so. It's possible to build up too may followers.

I've got several repeaters that I'm happy to see and be generous to when I'm back in country. However, they all know that calls or messages to me when I'm back home will be ignored and go unanswered.

G.

[Sammon]

Hi guys,

Some of the recent posts about about scammers triggered this addition. In case you already did not know if a girl sends you pics of herself in a hospital with a needle in her arm it is likely a scam. Some say they have dengue, a mosquito borne infection, and need a blood transfusion. I recently confronted such a scammer with pics like this asking for money who I met on FC. I asked her to send me a copy of the doctor-signed diagnosis on hospital letterhead and never heard from her again. It is common scam in several third-world countries.

The mistakes we make is our mindset. When we make girlfriends in other countries we think we are dating girls in our own country. Dating girls in our own country usually does not translate in giving cash.

In other countries the pressure on life is enormous for them. Especially in Philippines I always had demands for money the moment I make ones GF. In beginning I am guilty of helping. But now I have wised up. Having said that I have helped girls to get education. That is my own decision.

Right now my usual excuse has been my bank has forbidden and blacklisted me sending money overseas. Do not know how much they believe it but I am sticking to it.