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[Gen X Baer]

Hey there gents.

I will be moving into Borracay within two months and am reaching out to get some wisdom on how the playing field is there if anyone has anything to share. Info on how / where to search for an accomodation (apartment / studio would be nice), and of course, how the mongering scene is and pull girls. You can refer to my past posts and will note I tend to RTF and input what I can.

Looking forward to hearing from all.

Regards,

GenX.

[Goferring]

My strategy is a little more long-term. I am resident here and can invest the time. This will not work for someone here on a short visit.
KG.

Kabul,

Is it common in Manila to also keep a small stable of "very good" girls simply for their conversation and companionship skills?

When I lived elsewhere in Asia, copious great sex was so redily available that getting laid was sometimes not the primary aim of a date. We foreign residents would have a couple of contacts that we would date just for their companionship. These girls were generally stunningly beautiful, very well educated, had good jobs and their own money. They could hold conversation with anyone who entered the room on pretty much any topic. No money ever changed hands and it was always clear that the night was not going to end with a quicky back at the hotel.

Put simply they were fabulous company and that was why went out with them.

[Goferring]

My strategy is a little more long-term. I am resident here and can invest the time. This will not work for someone here on a short visit.

I have found that the ones that want a second initially are usually more to the "good girl" end of the spectrum than the "bar girl" end. The "good girl" is my target hunting pool. What it means is that I make an investment of a couple of hours and a meal or a coffee for the second to make the target comfortable.

KG.

I'the suggest that the concept of good girl vs bad girl can also be very fluid and subject to circumstances.

You will always have the extremes of the beautiful Hi-so girls who are not going to sleep with anyone unless there is a long term commitment and the guy is socially acceptable vs the freelancers who will sleep with anyone who calls and has the cost of admission.

In between there are many girls who will be "good" to guys that will perhaps see them over a longer period of time, be in contact with their work mates, friends or family or have the ability to affect their status or replutation. These same girls may also be "bad" when the suitor does not impact these and simply offers a short term night of fun and / or temporary source of funding and then will be gone.

The same can be said when it is the girls who are on tour. A pack of two or three girls on holiday, who were mild mannered account clerks at home can be absolutely ravenous when away from prying eyes and sharp tongues.

Being a resident can open up access to the "better"girls where as being a short term tourist or business visitor can lead to good girls dropping their guard quicker.

[Kabul Guy]

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That would be an instant turn-off for me. One I was getting to know online ahead of my Manila trip, when I arrived I suggested we meet up and she wanted to bring her mother and sister, and this woman was mid-20's, no late teen, so I just said "Sorry, I'm only interested in meeting you, they're not invited" and dropped it. I think as you spend a bit of time on these sites and gain some experience you do become a bit cold-blooded, a bit mercenary.

I agree with the comment about being cold-blooded and a bit mercenary but I usually agree with them having a second along on first meeting.

My strategy is a little more long-term. I am resident here and can invest the time. This will not work for someone here on a short visit.

I have found that the ones that want a second initially are usually more to the "good girl" end of the spectrum than the "bar girl" end. The "good girl" is my target hunting pool. What it means is that I make an investment of a couple of hours and a meal or a coffee for the second to make the target comfortable.

Once you make these girls comfortable in your presence the sex is almost automatic. This makes the initial investment usually pay off quite well as you get a "good girl" which is usually less costly financially than a "bar girl" but you may pay other ways. That is where being cold-blooded comes in handy, you can resist the 100's of texts saying "I love you, I miss you, Please see me again. ".

No absolute rights or wrongs, just different tastes and hunting strategies.

Happy humping.

KG.

[Flyboy 2000]

There are people who argue that getting on a video chat is important for a couple of reasons. One: To ensure that the pics really do represent the person you are connecting with. Two: The argument is that if you can convince them to send naked pics and / or strip down to any extent on video, you both guarantee that they are DTF, pretty much end any LMR, and also hugely increase the likelihood that they will show rather than flake (they have now 'invested' in seeing you.). As to long conversations, that doesn't seem necessary!

I'm not a huge fan of videochat but definitely it can relax the girl to see your face and 'get' that you're an okay guy, even that alone paved the way for a fun evening in HK recently. As to getting her to send 'naughty' pics, I'm going to say this is a brilliant tip and strategy. Just on this visit to Manila, there was one girl on Blendr who I got along well with, we moved it to WeChat and it seemed from my end that we were up for a fun evening of dinner + bedroom (the tone of the chats, teasing comments, her having already mentioned crap job with little money and my mentioning I'd be good to her if she was good to me, etc) so I tried this idea during one chat on the afternoon we were to meet that evening. Asked her to send me a photo of what I'd see that night. She sent a selfie. I replied that I was hoping to see a sneak preview of what I'd see 'under the covers', in bed, and it quickly became evident she somehow thought we were just 'meeting up' for dinner. Didn't read this as her being coy or shy like many Asian women can be, even when they first get to the room. Nope. So, that tip of yours saved me quite some wasted time and money!

[Flyboy 2000]

I have done both. Have the girls come to the room and met them outside. Video chat is good in the sense you get to see each other and also discuss intimate details which cannot be done in chat sites. Can plan plan how many days and find out what benefits she is expecting. Sometimes it is better to interact so that Ice is broken. Many of the girls are scared to be with a stranger. Once they feel you can be trusted rest is easy. Sex is better. It is also easy to convince girls to take a trip to be with you, go on vacations. I have gotten girls to come from the provinces and stay with me many times.
Overall I have had good experiences getting girls from dating sites. Need to be patient and treat them like a GF rather than a prostitute although money definitely changes hands. I have taken girls on vacation and had great sex with them.

Agree that when it works out, it works out really well. This is where a nice bit of upfront chat helps, it develops a rapport and some common ground, and also. This is important to me. Demonstrates to me the ability to have a conversation. As a rule, the better we get on online, the better we'll get on not only in person but in the sack.

Meeting outside gives you and the girl to easily escape if you do not like each other.

Yes, did this in HK recently, met one at the cafe and quickly realised she'd used a very old photo and had put on a lot of weight since then, which just strikes me as dishonest and a poor reflection on character overall, and to be honest I just could not be bothered taking it any further so just had my coffee over polite small talk and left it at that "Well, thanks for coming to meet me, was nice to chat, see you later" etc. She was rather astonished, I think she felt she was going to get laid!

Problem is sometimes they do not come alone. Sometimes with family and sometimes with a friend. It is impossible to talk when families are present and delicate when friend is present. If the girl likes you she will come with you.

That would be an instant turn-off for me. One I was getting to know online ahead of my Manila trip, when I arrived I suggested we meet up and she wanted to bring her mother and sister, and this woman was mid-20's, no late teen, so I just said "Sorry, I'm only interested in meeting you, they're not invited" and dropped it. I think as you spend a bit of time on these sites and gain some experience you do become a bit cold-blooded, a bit mercenary.

[Mua Tur]

Manila 2000-5000; cebu 1500 - 3000; Angeles 2500 - 4000;province 1000 - 2000.

He he, you missed one more things. What about the ages!

The more ages the less money or none. Even a land lord girl of 40+ from Negros Occi, offered me she would pay my travel cost, if I extend my tour from Cebu to her city (slipped out the city name). Amazing.

[Flyboy 2000]

So I'm doing a bit of mix-and-match on this first trip to Manila, seeing some freelancers from Date in Asia and Blendr as well as the bar scene. Will post more after the trip's done but for now, have to share this at least to 'vent'.

WTF is it with some Pinays who seem just so frigging dumb? Yes, working off a small sample but seems that others here have noted similar. A few of them during online chats seeming dense, well, I can accept differences in language although sometimes they just don't 'get' stuff.

Anyway, I have a shortlist of several I met online who've been duty rated, and I decided to give my afternoon to one who is early 20's and has a child and is out of work. Was a toss-up between her and a 19 yo student, my body said "Student, hot!" but my heart said "MILF, after all she's got a baby to look after". Should have ignored the heart!

The MILF was very appreciative of my offer to "help her out", ken to meet up, and so it was that we met for lunch and then headed back to my hotel.

Now alarm bells were buzzing away when she seemed a little 'distant' rather than 'enthusiastic' but I put that down to her perhaps just not being 100% comfortable for some reason, although I did consider after lunch sending her on her way with a little spending money for her time, but no, I decided to give her benefit of the doubt and so we headed back to my hotel. She did hold my arm in a nice gentle way which made me think she was perhaps just a bit shy at first.

Anyway: we get into the room, and at the appropriate point I go to kiss her and it's barely a peck from her, I pull back and ask point blank what's wrong. She says she has her period! WTF?

I just look at her, count to five, and then ask in a firm but not angry way why she agreed to meet me and come back to the hotel if she had per period? Did she ever have sex during her period? No, she replies, at which point I say "Well why did you come here? I think it's very selfish of you to do this to me" and March her back out the door, down to the lobby, she's totally clammed up like a frigging 8 year old caught doing something wrong by a parent and given a good speaking to, yet which point she has the asks for some money for her son. "Sorry but I bought you lunch and in return you wasted my time, so lunch is all you get today. ".

I just can't fathom how anybody could have their brain in neutral to such an extent!

Okay, off to get some proper fun for the evening!

[Flyboy 2000]

Should have been more specific, my request was with regards to Manila, but am sure others here will appreciate the pricing for different regions.

[D Cups]

Ya I was doing some "finer" bargirls but you're right; average streetwslker is way cheaper.

Why such high prices for Angeles? I usually give 1000 for ST and 1500 for LT for freelancers that I find in WeChat or Badoo.

[Mogwai]

Manila 2000-5000; cebu 1500 - 3000; Angeles 2500 - 4000;province 1000 - 2000.

Why such high prices for Angeles? I usually give 1000 for ST and 1500 for LT for freelancers that I find in WeChat or Badoo.

[D Cups]

Manila 2000-5000; cebu 1500 - 3000; Angeles 2500 - 4000;province 1000 - 2000

FB: Manila? Cebu? Province? The amount changes.

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[WestCoast1]

What's a fair price to offer casual "dates" from Date in Asia, Blendr etc? Realise there might be a gulf between very active freelancers who are almost part-time WLs, and those who are more casual and maybe do one or two hook-ups a week, but what's a fair price to offer for a short-time visit and an overnight? Would not want to offend or disappoint a nice lady by handing her an envelope with too little shopping money, eg P2000? But nor do I want to spoil things by paying well above the mark and raising expectations, eg P5000?

FB: Manila? Cebu? Province? The amount changes.

[Flyboy 2000]

What's a fair price to offer casual "dates" from Date in Asia, Blendr etc? Realise there might be a gulf between very active freelancers who are almost part-time WLs, and those who are more casual and maybe do one or two hook-ups a week, but what's a fair price to offer for a short-time visit and an overnight? Would not want to offend or disappoint a nice lady by handing her an envelope with too little shopping money, eg P2000? But nor do I want to spoil things by paying well above the mark and raising expectations, eg P5000?

[Wicked Roger]

There are people who argue that getting on a video chat is important for a couple of reasons. One: To ensure that the pics really do represent the person you are connecting with. Two: The argument is that if you can convince them to send naked pics and / or strip down to any extent on video, you both guarantee that they are DTF, pretty much end any LMR, and also hugely increase the likelihood that they will show rather than flake (they have now 'invested' in seeing you.). As to long conversations, that doesn't seem necessary!

Cheers,

BH.

Both great points BD and if unsure if a LB (as a main reason for me to cam with them) and can't be sure then a strip will / may help your knowledge LOL (and surprise you also maybe LOL).

But if a stunner in your eyes I would strongly suggest a cam chat and have a see (not a quick 10 seconds but a long chat).