Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Red Kilt]

On another topic, have you been to Ozamiz City? Is it safe there? There is a cupid chick there I would like to see. Or maybe fly her to Cebu. Cheers, mate.

I have been there several times but not since 2005 and with the renewed NPA activity all over the Philippines I wouldn't be going there myself for a while. NPA = New Peoples' Army. It's a rag-tag guerilla group but in some areas (East to SE Luzon), they are quite well organized

I'd fly her (or ferry her) to Cebu if I were you.

To other guys chatting to women in various far-flung places, be advised that Pres Du30 has decided to go to war with the NPA and they have retaliated by saying "bring it on". Since there are pockets of NPA cells all over the country, you should take more care in travelling off the beaten track. If they step up their activity they will need additional funds, and a white guy roaming around might be tempting as a potential source.

Don't listen to the locals when they say "it's very safe here". They always say that. It's safe for them. Their judgment is not always good.

[Questor55]

Thanks Red. I may have to try this since DIA kicked me out and I have had only moderate success with Fiilpino Cupid. So many scammer chicks. On another topic, have you been to Ozamiz City? Is it safe there? There is a cupid chick there I would like to see. Or maybe fly her to Cebu. Cheers, mate.

I've traveled extensively by public transport over most of Mindanao. Times have changed and now it is increasingly dangerous in many parts of the island. Rather than flying her to Cebu (Dapitan or CDO) better to have her take a ferry to Cebu.

[D Cups]

I now use pinalove exclusively. ..they get to "know" you better, they suddenly change their approach.. ..she then said "I wonder what else is long".

Thanks Red. I may have to try this since DIA kicked me out and I have had only moderate success with Fiilpino Cupid. So many scammer chicks. On another topic, have you been to Ozamiz City? Is it safe there? There is a cupid chick there I would like to see. Or maybe fly her to Cebu. Cheers, mate.

[Mogwai]

I chatted to one of these "pure" types recently. Very attractive and definitive about how she hated "naughty" chat and dirty men and there were so many online.. After some back and forth chatter I mentioned that I am tall and slim and she remarked that in my photo I seemed to have long fingers. When I agreed with her that my fingers were long she then said "I wonder what else is long".

I think your kilt is long because you don't wear anything under it.

[Hutsori]

Has anyone here ever told a DIA girl that you are only looking for a short time girl for fun?

Yes, but that was before it got draconian. The site's key word filter is too capricious and god knows what will get you banned. Establish contact, exchange details for email, sms, or video, and move there.

[Red Kilt]

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My MO is to explain that as a travelling businessman I visit a city on my own, and stay for a few days and it'd be nice to have the company of an interesting local lady for dinners and nights and maybe some local sight-seeing, and I also make it clear in my profile that I am not seeing a long-term relationship. Some women still need you to walk through what this 'means' for them and will quickly jump to criticism you only want sex or fun or friends with benefits, and that's where I have to tread gently because if they're offended and click that button to report you to DIA, bang, you can be banned.

(I just explain that I visit the city often and would like to see them each time I visit, the first thing though is that we get along well and that we both enjoy our time together and that we are honest with each other "just like I am being honest with you" etc, because the honesty & respect card plays well with them and can mollify them).

I like your MO FlyB and your careful and thoughtful response highlighted above. That's the only way to succeed on DIA, and I abandoned it ages ago.

I now use pinalove exclusively.

Even there, it gets very difficult when you meet someone on line who acts very demure and innocent at first and conveys the impression of disgust at the guys who are only interested in sex. Most times I don't persist and cut off the chat at that point but I am amazed at how, if you keep stringing them along, and they get to "know" you better, they suddenly change their approach.

I chatted to one of these "pure" types recently. Very attractive and definitive about how she hated "naughty" chat and dirty men and there were so many online.. After some back and forth chatter I mentioned that I am tall and slim and she remarked that in my photo I seemed to have long fingers. When I agreed with her that my fingers were long she then said "I wonder what else is long".

Bingo!

The rest of the chat was very naughty and by the time we finished she was suggesting that we should meet so she could, amongst other things, check up if I was telling the truth.

One chat of two completely different halves. She is a work in progress.

[Flyboy 2000]

One other thing on Date In Asia – try to get the girl's WeChat or WhatsApp details as early as you can and note those down, just in case your DIA account is later closed through no fault of your own, at least you won't have to go back after setting up a new account to find all those girls from scratch.

[Flyboy 2000]

Forest: DIA can be a real pain in the ass with things like that. You even have top watch sending a message too similar to too many women, for example if shortly before your trip you ping a bunch with your WeChat address or whatever, it's easy to copy-paste-edit-send this one message but DIA will pick up the similarities and treat this as spam.

Twice now I have had an account closed for zero good reason, one time I suspect it was a lady I'd met whom I turned down because she proved to be very fat compared to her taken-a-decade-ago photo so I think she lodged a complain against my profile in spite.

At least with Blendr they give you a warning, but DIA just shuts you right down, and while you can set up a fresh account you lose all the chats (including details on the girls etc) from your previous account.

So yeah, you have to skirt the issue of P4P very carefully in the language you use! It's made worse because in my experience a lot of them just tick all the boxes to say what they're looking for in a relationship, including 'dating' and 'romance' (not sure how DIA differentiates between those or expects anybody else to do so), yet when you try to raise the prospect of a casual 'dating' encounter some ladies rear up at the idea of 'just fun, just sex'. So you have to be very diplomatic too, and this just makes things harder.

My MO is to explain that as a travelling businessman I visit a city on my own, and stay for a few days and it'd be nice to have the company of an interesting local lady for dinners and nights and maybe some local sight-seeing, and I also make it clear in my profile that I am not seeing a long-term relationship. Some women still need you to walk through what this 'means' for them and will quickly jump to criticism you only want sex or fun or friends with benefits, and that's where I have to tread gently because if they're offended and click that button to report you to DIA, bang, you can be banned.

(I just explain that I visit the city often and would like to see them each time I visit, the first thing though is that we get along well and that we both enjoy our time together and that we are honest with each other "just like I am being honest with you" etc, because the honesty & respect card plays well with them and can mollify them).

[Member #4643]

I have been kicked off from DIA three times, and its a pain in the ass to get back on. They are not nearly as savvy as some people suggest: you only need a new email address and a new cell phone number for them to text an activation code. That has worked fine the last two times (the first time I was kicked off, I only needed a new email address because they did not yet do the phone activation code yet).

Many of the men here (like me) like to be honest before taking the girl home for sex. I am simply not looking for my next girlfriend (although sometimes that happens) and definitely NEVER looking for a wife. I could probably fuck 75% of the girls on the first date and all but one or two on the second date if I said I told them I was looking for LTR or marriage ("serious" But, I am not. I just want a date that ends naked and horizontal.

Has anyone here ever told a DIA girl that you are only looking for a short time girl for fun? I would never mention compensation, because I think you would have to be very smart in your wording to avoid flagging the system. Most of the girls know that they will get money (even the girls who date for "serious" expect money, despite protestations to thecontrary), and if they raise the issue I simply say, "you will be happy when you leave"). Mostly, I never mention money because I worry that the DIA computer algorithms would flag such a statement and close my account. I like DIA and want to keep it. I have literally found a dozen girls from DIA over the last five years and find it a good resource.

By the way, on pinalove, you can ask about sex straight out without getting blocked. It is true that most of the girls have been trolling for a long time and are therefore pros or semi-pros, but I like that (cheaper and usually far more GFE than an escort service). But, there are plenty of new girls of all ages, many of whom are not looking for "serious" if you propose something less than a LTR.

[Red Kilt]

Having been on Pinalove for a year there are some regular scrags who should be avoided. Different names and profiles, sames pictures and modus operandi.

Then again Pinalove is still a good place for talent. Can just dial up your are preference and there are a handful for Pampanga. Do check the recent activity as any profile that hasn't been accessed for 14 days is most likely inactive. There are many less that it appears.

BD provides a great reminder.

I had let my "membership" of Pinalove lapse for the past 6 months and last night I opened up the site again (as a non-member) but still with my preferred age range listed and I was dismayed to see that around 70% of the candidates were the same collection as I had seen for the past year.

There were some fresh faces though so BDs comment in his 2nd para is worth noting.

It emphasizes the fact that the girls with very attractive pics and well-written and enticing narratives must be professional money-seekers otherwise they would have found the "man of their dreams" long ago. They are clearly working the site looking for newbies who don't realize that they have been on pinalove for years. The really clever ones keep changing their names (with a new posting) so that it looks like they are new.

It's an interesting social phenomenon to observe all the dynamics at play.

[Fastpiston]

Article written by a female journalist in Wired presents an implausible but predictable narrative about the empowerment of economically-disadvantaged minority women over old white males by the power of the internet. Substantiation is limited to a single example of dipshit white-knight noob courting a discarded 40-something single mom by throwing money at her, without meeting her or ever visiting the Philippines. Many lulz are had by all.

Let's not get too excited here.

Impartial thoughtful journalism no longer exists. Most journalism today has deteriorated into ranting.

[Soapy Smith]

Article written by a female journalist in Wired presents an implausible but predictable narrative about the empowerment of economically-disadvantaged minority women over old white males by the power of the internet. Substantiation is limited to a single example of dipshit white-knight noob courting a discarded 40-something single mom by throwing money at her, without meeting her or ever visiting the Philippines. Many lulz are had by all.

Let's not get too excited here.

Yes, and even this story has no conclusion. The journalist may have read Tom Friedman's argument that the internet has made the world flat, but it's not quite that simple.

[Roll Aides]

Article claims that rural Filipinas have flipped the dating script on foreign men with the help of internet tools to hunt and catch their prey.

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/how-th...des-the-power/

Article written by a female journalist in Wired presents an implausible but predictable narrative about the empowerment of economically-disadvantaged minority women over old white males by the power of the internet. Substantiation is limited to a single example of dipshit white-knight noob courting a discarded 40-something single mom by throwing money at her, without meeting her or ever visiting the Philippines. Many lulz are had by all.

Let's not get too excited here.

[Chocha Monger]

Article claims that rural Filipinas have flipped the dating script on foreign men with the help of internet tools to hunt and catch their prey.

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/how-th...des-the-power/

[Mogwai]

Of course it's a total waste of fuking time, but whatever.

Post number 1 from a new member = spam.