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[ImAGuy]

Whoa, guys! I wasn't saying that I'm having trouble meeting girls, just that meeting them offline is much easier than Facebook, Badoo, etc. At least in my experience.

It could be Cavite, too.

[Wicked Roger]

This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.

This way is the best IMHO and have used this method for a number if years. I ask about their friends etc and sure enough some are always willing to meet. Even better some are 'educated' about bisexuality and the joys of threesomes, group and the need for 'accessories'.

All from asking nicely when I see a photo of the cuties with her friends. Am doing this at the moment and new one in Cebu is preparing to meet innocent me.

[Python75]

If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.

This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.

[Blanquiceleste]

Yep....

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If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.

Great post, some solid learning here. I have tried the approach used by the almighty Skogis and it works quite well. The first contact is made on ground in the real world. You treat the first few contacts really well and then they spread the word for you. Its like having your own personal pimp. And the results are delightful.

That said, I am none closer than Mars in terms of the number of chicks banged thru this route as compared to Skogis.

[Hutsori]

I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.

Yep. Of course the ground isn't wastebook and badoo, the places where the OP's attempts to attract women were based.

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.

Though I hesitate to use the word 'solely' (and 'never' & 'always') when the issue is debatable, you're mostly right. Of course the OP only mentioned his "decent" looks and did not disclose the content of his messages so it's difficult to analyse the reasons for their shunning him. Knowing how attractive women receive several dozen messages everyday I think their ignoring him could be due to one or more of the following reasons (some serious and other less so): he's not as decent looking as he thinks he is; he's much better looking than he thinks he is and the girls are scared of his handsomeness; he's sending boring 'Hi' messages; he's sending rude messages; the girls prefer other blokes; the girls are too lazy or busy to read or reply; the women he's contacted are all comatose or deceased; something else. If forced to pick one sole reason . . . I guess they've forgotten their passwords.

Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.

Perhaps. But since it's only messages he's sent it seems unlikely the women could deduce his miserliness unless his profile photos depict him as a destitute beggar or mangy hobo or his message says "fuck for free" unambiguously.

I don't know whether the OP is looking genuinely for recommendations, but if he is then he ought to include more details about his approach. If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.

[Member #4351]

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.

Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.

[D Cups]

Tried talking to about 20 random girls in my city on Facebook with zero response. I'm decent looking and early 30's. Badoo is just as bad. Also, every white guy I've seen on the street or in the mall is with a sub-5 girl always the same age if not older than the guy. Saw a handsome guy who had to be in his late twenties with a sub5 woman who looked 35. At that point I stared at the sky, expecting the legendary Skogis to descend from the heavens and smite this noob for not having 500 girls adding him hourly on Facebook.

Try date in asia and get their skype if they have it. American women? Forget it! None of them are worth the trouble plus most are overweight, bitchy and selfish, lousy lovers. I stick to Asian and Latin women? They know how to treat a man!

[Pantot]

Are you sure? I recall reading research a few years ago about guys who overrate their appearance by 2 points on the 1-10 scale - the psychological phenomenon of 'self-enhancement'. A lot of fours thinking they're sixes. Post some of your photos on a hot-or-not website and let the public opine. This is also a good way to have photos selected for your dating profiles.

Take heart. An okcupid study showed women rate men low yet still message them, http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/yo...nline-dating/.

". . . women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arent good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."

I dunno about that. I never heard about credible polling in the Philippines. I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.

When my friends who barely travel and are puzzled about why I go the Phils I try to explain like this.

When I'm there I'm 6'2" (I'm 5'9 1/2" I'm viewed as much more handsome than I am here at home, maybe +3 on your scale though I never used that metric maybe I will, thanks. I am viewed as wealthy, while here I am quite frugal and not at all wealthy. My dick becomes a source of awe and grows 3 inches and increases in girth in the eyes of the girls.

My age effectively is cut in half and I'm able to attract females the age and attractiveness I did when I was in college. Is it a sustainable reality and is it true? No of course not. Are they expert in buttering me up? Hell yes but its intoxicating. Would it be reality if I were there 365 24/7? No way. But in three week bursts a few times a year its a well earned and paid for tonic for life.

All they see is pale skin and a 'pointed nose'. I have come to they conclusion most of the girls in the provinces and new to AC and manila or who have very little first hand exposure to foriegners can't tell a handsome one from a homely one.

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.

[Hutsori]

I'm decent looking . . .

Are you sure? I recall reading research a few years ago about guys who overrate their appearance by 2 points on the 1-10 scale - the psychological phenomenon of 'self-enhancement'. A lot of fours thinking they're sixes. Post some of your photos on a hot-or-not website and let the public opine. This is also a good way to have photos selected for your dating profiles.

Take heart. An okcupid study showed women rate men low yet still message them, http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/yo...nline-dating/.

". . . women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arent good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."

[ImAGuy]

Tried talking to about 20 random girls in my city on Facebook with zero response. I'm decent looking and early 30's. Badoo is just as bad. Also, every white guy I've seen on the street or in the mall is with a sub-5 girl always the same age if not older than the guy. Saw a handsome guy who had to be in his late twenties with a sub5 woman who looked 35. At that point I stared at the sky, expecting the legendary Skogis to descend from the heavens and smite this noob for not having 500 girls adding him hourly on Facebook.

[D Cups]

This message found on CL Cebu:

I'm a single mom with tree kids (ellipsis) and willing to accept my kids and live with my tree kids.

Female Tarzan?

[X Man]

This message found on CL Cebu:

I'm a single mom with tree kids (ellipsis) and willing to accept my kids and live with my tree kids.

[D Cups]

Maybe you need a sexcretary or at least a wingman to help you out, Skogi? Tagreplacement0}.

[Amadeuss]

This trip I've done almost next to none prep work. It is not needed when the fake FB is blooming and multiple itself with ladies want to be my "friend". .

Philipinas are one of the most jealous of their art. On FB one can see all your friends and friends of friends. It is the tool we need to scroll around. But how to stop the girls you befriend to peep on the other girls in your inner circle?

I also wonder if the new feature on DIA -showing how many contacts and messages you got a day. Makes sense.

[Member #4387]

This trip I've done almost next to none prep work. It is not needed when the fake FB is blooming and multiple itself with ladies want to be my "friend". X man was having a good point when he tried analyze my postings by saying I also experience latecommers; and yes I do but very rare. I will take you guys through how the world can evolve through your own momentum without you even have the clue.

This fine afternoon / eve I was beeing hammered after starting drinking at 10 am. Had dates come and go but when we got to the 3 pm date I collapsed in bed and woke up 5:15 pm. That was 15 min to late for my 5 pm date upon which she noticed and was so kind to send me like 35 msg / calls as she arrived early. The 3 pm girl send me msg like 4 pm she started travelling (X man, she was obviously late). I delt with 3 pm girl first telling her she could just return home or whatever as I hate latecommers "bye". She got angry as she by then I woke stood outside with my 5 pm girl (without knowing eachother ofcourse). Ditching was needed and lesson learned and I saved out a funny / scary situation. In case the 3 pm girl still was around I got 5 pm girl to go up into the lobby so I could fetch her there and not outside in public.

I put in some space in my scheduel this fine eve and after 5 pm girl left the 7 pm girl and me thought we had quite some time to fool around. Then 10 pm girl states, X man, she calculated wrongly her travellingtime (this was a girl from Quezon so not all girls I meet are from Makati (roughly 95% of them are from Makati I would believe but beauty counts so I never stand down a spinner if she's from elsewhere)).

10 pm girl text me 8:47 pm she is outside hotel and then me and 7 pm girl is still sipping some wino after one round of playtime. Since Quezongirl is a spinner I invent some coverstory and 7 pm girl leaves and I fetch 10 pm girl around 9:15 pm in the lobby in case 7 pm girl still outside entrance (5 min after she left).

I've never tried to put myself forward as superman or whatever. But I must say when things works out even if I am collapesed then I feel pretty lucky in mongering terms. I find it easy, girls are mostly on time and lately I have more trouble with earlycommers than latecommers (both of them categories are irritating). All in all a good day.

I add the raw material scheduelwice. This is not definite but a guidance to how my life will be the next few days.