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  1. #4173
    Quote Originally Posted by Gangles  [View Original Post]
    I can't remember if I have ever wined and dined a lady on our first meeting. But one evening I did take a woman and her friend on a night sail around Manila bay to watch the fireworks off the Mall of Asia.

    Usually we meet in a neutral place so that either of us can bail out. We might have a coffee and a chat. On a couple of occasions I have bailed out. Then when the conversation goes into that pregnant pause stage, I ask her what she would like to do. Sometimes she just takes my hand and we head off to the hotel, sometimes she gets that expression on her face and I ask her if she wants to come with me, or sometimes I give her a face-saver and ask if she wants to watch some TV.

    I don't think that one has ever bailed out at this stage, and usually she starts to strip off as we walk into the room. On a few occasions, we just lie on the bed and smooch for a while till she settles in, and then the dance begins.

    It is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. A meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. Otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.

    Does anyone else think the same way?
    Once you screen out the time wasters after a free meal the rest pretty much expect you to meat them when you meet them. :D

  2. #4172
    Quote Originally Posted by gangles  [View Original Post]
    it is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. a meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.

    does anyone else think the same way?
    yah, pretty much that's been my experience too. except for the handful i've met that turned out to be **** and were just curious to meet a foreign man. even they would have gone with me if i'd asked, i believe.

  3. #4171
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Buck Artist  [View Original Post]
    I am puzzled by all you guys who claim to be scoring big with blank picture profiles.

    While waiting for my pic to be approved on DIA I was getting exactly zero messages and just a few replies to my intro message. The moment the pic got approved, the messages start flooding in by the dozen. Most girls will go to "Last Active" page and click on a photo there and start messaging. Having no pic means you arent in that list and therefore invisible.

    Not accusing you fellas of "embellishing" the truth, just curious whats going on.

    Also a question to you. Do you message girls profiles that have a blank picture?
    Remember that I said I live here and so I am not in any hurry. I don't need 100s of hits. 1 or 2 each day is plenty for me, although I get more than that.

    You need a catchy name, and the profile heading should also be catchy. They see that even if there is no picture.

    FBA. You are assuming that "most girls will go to the 'Last Active' page and click on a photo there" but just today I had 6 different women send me a message to my blank picture profile so that proves that certainly not all girls do it. I assure you I am not embellishing the truth.

    As I said in my earlier post, I never message women. I just read profiles and wait for them to follow up on me. I also read profiles without pictures.

  4. #4170

    Wining and Dining

    I can't remember if I have ever wined and dined a lady on our first meeting. But one evening I did take a woman and her friend on a night sail around Manila bay to watch the fireworks off the Mall of Asia.

    Usually we meet in a neutral place so that either of us can bail out. We might have a coffee and a chat. On a couple of occasions I have bailed out. Then when the conversation goes into that pregnant pause stage, I ask her what she would like to do. Sometimes she just takes my hand and we head off to the hotel, sometimes she gets that expression on her face and I ask her if she wants to come with me, or sometimes I give her a face-saver and ask if she wants to watch some TV.

    I don't think that one has ever bailed out at this stage, and usually she starts to strip off as we walk into the room. On a few occasions, we just lie on the bed and smooch for a while till she settles in, and then the dance begins.

    It is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. A meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. Otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.

    Does anyone else think the same way?

  5. #4169
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Kilt  [View Original Post]
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck View Post.

    Why don't you have a Pic?
    I am puzzled by all you guys who claim to be scoring big with blank picture profiles.

    While waiting for my pic to be approved on DIA I was getting exactly zero messages and just a few replies to my intro message. The moment the pic got approved, the messages start flooding in by the dozen. Most girls will go to "Last Active" page and click on a photo there and start messaging. having no pic means you arent in that list and therefore invisible.

    Not accusing you fellas of "embellishing" the truth, just curious whats going on.

    Also a question to you - Do you message girls profiles that have a blank picture?

  6. #4168
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenzy3  [View Original Post]
    Ping me next time you are in town, I have to share my some of my FF I have a few lesbians who will do what you are asking.
    Now THAT is a sales pitch. I knew it was a mistake to only book one evening in Cebu. I need to choose this evenings activities wisely.

    Any chance you can PM me your number again?

    B

  7. #4167
    Quote Originally Posted by red kilt  [View Original Post]
    i live here and work here in a government-linked position, and i don't wish to be identified on a web-site such as dia.

    i do not need all the drama and tsismis (gossip) that comes with putting personal data out there for everyone.

    it is also just a side-line activity to "test the water" regarding available women. if dia closed tomorrow i would still be ok. it is not my sole means of meeting potential companions.

    we all use "nicknames" on isg too so we are not identified. i prefer a high level of anonymity in much of what i do in the philippines. it is one country in my experience where it pays to keep your head down (no pun or ambiguity intended).
    i can well understand rk's stringent protection of his anonymity. if you live here, and work in a job with a reasonably high degree of visibility, this turns into a very small country very quickly. i would not even think about posting a profile, no matter that it's under a pseudonym as i would worry that one of the random people i might meet might turn out to be someone i know professionally, or who knows someone whom i know professionally. the inter-connections here among families and extended families and friends of extended families are complex, wide and extremely efficient in spreading tsimis. the informal intelligence apparatus here would put the cia and mi 6 to shame, and the speed with which bad news (gossip) travels is sometimes faster than the internet. deceit here is a complex web indeed.

    ge

  8. #4166
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    Why don't you have a Pic?
    I live here and work here in a government-linked position, and I don't wish to be identified on a web-site such as DIA.

    I do not need all the drama and tsismis (gossip) that comes with putting personal data out there for everyone.

    It is also just a side-line activity to "test the water" regarding available women. If DIA closed tomorrow I would still be OK. It is not my sole means of meeting potential companions.

    We all use "nicknames" on ISG too so we are not identified. I prefer a high level of anonymity in much of what I do in the Philippines. It is one country in my experience where it pays to keep your head down (no pun or ambiguity intended).

  9. #4165
    Quote Originally Posted by Barba  [View Original Post]
    We always pay one way or another, don't we? Anyone that knows me also knows that me and FreebieFan are somewhat similar in our general approach to mongering. Suckers for the human contact that is created in fun and communication. Sometimes this approach is harder work than to just fork up the cash, but having "just great sex" is lesser than having great sex AND chemistry IMHO. My dear friend GE often ask me why I bother to entertain so many next to gf-relations, and I can honestly not answer him (yet). Maybe I am vain and like to feel "loved not only for my money"? And then in periods I say "f*ck it" and goes for hard core hoes, only to be back a month, or three, later to fooling around with a new "gf".

    Lovely girls, Frenzy3. I have met you and I have seen your technique at work. Your generous and can have more or less as many girls you want, with this referral strategy. If you want to live in the dream that you are dating a "real gf", it could perhaps hurt the cause somewhat to ask if you can fuck all of her friends as well, but for what the extremely liberal relations you are engaged in, it seems very efficient. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you stick you T-Rex in the mouth of that girl you brought to Red Lips, and have her girlfriend eat her out at the same time. I would mount myself behind the girlfriend of your girlfriend, and give her little lesbian fanny a surprise visit. The lesbian was really cute. Did you get to try her?

    Barba
    Yeah I know these pina are not GF, as for my motto is "I am paying them to leave" I tell them that is what the money is for. After having a liberal gf for 20+ years I am never changing, and I rather turn over the gf every 4-7 years, and have FF to spice it up every week, I still bar hop as you saw but they have to be as good quality to get my time and peso.

    Ping me next time you are in town, I have to share my some of my FF I have a few lesbians who will do what you are asking.

  10. #4164

    100% agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fslag338  [View Original Post]
    What I miss in the "method discussion" is that there not not one best method since we are looking for different things: pro's, free lancers, freebies etc (yes also many pro's are on DIA).

    But whatever you are looking for. Frankness and not beating around the Bush show character and is universally appreciated by girls I think.

    I only care freebies (because I like the hunting for the kill) and sometimes in experienced free lancers. FL's of course I pay.

    Freebies. If I have wined and dined them (mostly until late dancing etc) and they choose to stay, I see no reason why I should pay them more than their taxi fare. But I still do. But always find a nice way not to make it look like payment but a gift from a friend.

    Even if she does not stay. (then of course she does not get "help"). But if you had fun you have a new friend. And a hot girl has hot friends. Whom you can meet a next time and hope for more luck.
    Me too only care about freebies. Not because I'm afraid to spend a peso but just for the pleasure and fun plus the excitement. Ending up in my hotelroom (which is often the case) , has a much more rewarding experience. If you treat them nice, buy them drinks, chances are significantly high. Yes, yes I know that also cost money but I really do not care. I went to Cebu a few weeks ago, went out 3 consecutive nights with my gorgeous DIA date (why change her if she's really good) , each night ending in my room. The final night, we invited 5 of her friends who never or seldom see a disco inside. They shared a 500-peso cocktail pitcher all night and we had heaps of fun with happy ending again of course. I love the Philippines!

  11. #4163
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    Why don't you have a Pic?
    I don't put pictures up either. Why? To me putting a picture up is a sign of desperation, that you're going to go out of your way to get a girl. I write like 1-2 sentences, now I'm not on DIA, but on a similar type platform. I have girls cam with me all the time, some will even get naked with only seeing a couple pictures of me after I decide to send them. Unfortunately only 1 in 10 girls are attractive enough to talk to, and probably 1 in 10 of them are attractive enough to meet.

  12. #4162

    Kudos to Red Kilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Kilt  [View Original Post]
    Many click on by after they read my profile because they don't like my frankness, but a surprising number (around 20%) send a message to me (often just a Hello, or Hi but at least it indicates interest). It is only then that I respond, and I always first ask if they have read AND understood my profile. About 1/3rd drop out at this step, because they haven't read it so they reread my profile and read past the word "foreigner" in the first line and realise I am there for fun only.

    I hope this helps Forest.
    Thanks for that helpful and informative post.

    I'm trying to improve my Internet game and I think I have been too much "Mr. Marriage Nice Guy," which sets of expectations I can't deliver on.

    An important point, but a tough one to grasp, is to be choosy, rather than try to appeal to every single girl possible.

  13. #4161
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Kilt  [View Original Post]
    I open DIA now and again and browse through profiles. I never send messages, just read profiles. I do not have a pic, but I say in my profile that I will share a pic later on email if we become friends.
    Why don't you have a Pic?

  14. #4160
    What I miss in the "method discussion" is that there not not one best method since we are looking for different things: pro's, free lancers, freebies etc (yes also many pro's are on DIA).

    But whatever you are looking for. Frankness and not beating around the Bush show character and is universally appreciated by girls I think.

    I only care freebies (because I like the hunting for the kill) and sometimes in experienced free lancers. FL's of course I pay.

    Freebies. If I have wined and dined them (mostly until late dancing etc) and they choose to stay, I see no reason why I should pay them more than their taxi fare. But I still do. But always find a nice way not to make it look like payment but a gift from a friend.

    Even if she does not stay. (then of course she does not get "help"). But if you had fun you have a new friend. And a hot girl has hot friends. Whom you can meet a next time and hope for more luck.

  15. #4159
    Quote Originally Posted by Madisonguy  [View Original Post]
    I just don't get why you guys all use like the most widely used site. If I went to a small lake and saw a ton of boats fishing I would move to the next area. There are so many ways to meet girls online without using a dating site which is asking for trouble of scams and who knows what else.
    Dia accounts for less then 10% of my conquests. My best looking pick ups come from elsewhere. FB for instance is great if you can get into the right circles there. DIA is just convenient I guess.

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