Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Engine Driver]

Great points. When I first came here, I was somewhat experienced in other countries. But the prices were so cheap here, and the girls stayed so long (not charging by the minute, or 30- or 60-minute blocks), that I became the 'Efficiency Expert' and fell into the fallacy. For a while. Then later I found other ways to find a girl's lower acceptable price, and moved away from the 'efficiency' view (getting laid regular is more important than getting laid a lot, or having only hottie -- my old age speaking). Girls in the biz (most all of them, from GRO to FL / SW / LAC to Tinder pros) understand the 2-week warrior's fever.

Where I come from, a nice looking girl is $2500++ for an all nighter. So when I get to Manila, what's the point in worrying if the fee is $200 or $217?

[Mr Enternational]

High-Priced-Convenience (HPC, I just made that up). Every girl in the bar or street, or in LAC understands this. The price she's looking to get (say, at LAC, of 2000 for ST) will involve a negotiation probably..

I always tell them I come here all the time and I do not know when I am leaving.

[WestCoast1]

I can see the sunk cost / effiency fallacy / argument and if you are on a very short trip pulling the trigger quickly paying 17 bucks more will probably lower the total CPF by virtue of more total trip fucks. But my beef is that there's no f-ing norm that you should be galante and just pay whatever some exchangable chick asks.

It's not much different from buying a used car. Know when to walk away.

Great points. When I first came here, I was somewhat experienced in other countries. But the prices were so cheap here, and the girls stayed so long (not charging by the minute, or 30- or 60-minute blocks), that I became the 'Efficiency Expert' and fell into the fallacy. For a while. Then later I found other ways to find a girl's lower acceptable price, and moved away from the 'efficiency' view (getting laid regular is more important than getting laid a lot, or having only hottie -- my old age speaking). Girls in the biz (most all of them, from GRO to FL / SW / LAC to Tinder pros) understand the 2-week warrior's fever.

[Pute Nut]

For the 2-week warrior, it has much to do with pricing. He is not willing / wanting to dicker. Its difficult for him to walk away, when she is right in front of him in a bar, or on vid call and just a mile away. The largesse of his trip for many warriors is on his mind, forcing a need for results.

Totally get that, and encourage it. Big spenders attract new talent to the pool. I can see the sunk cost / effiency fallacy / argument and if you are on a very short trip pulling the trigger quickly paying 17 bucks more will probably lower the total CPF by virtue of more total trip fucks. But my beef is that there's no f-ing norm that you should be galante and just pay whatever some exchangable chick asks.

It's not much different from buying a used car. Know when to walk away.

[Goferring]

The lower-priced system (LPS) often belongs to the guys who live in town (or at least are here for a period of months). These gents can (and often do) simply pass on the HPC experience, getting a phone contact list full of girls who are willing to perform at the lower price (see Goferring's words below), in exchange for continued and repeated business.

The warrior will also be confined to choosing from areas where tourist or foreigner prices reign. He will likely only see the airport, office, Burgos and maybe a high end mall.

A resident will frequent far more supermarkets, regular malls, banks, public transport etc and naturally bump into girls who will be happy to meet for the price of a coffee.

Don't even get me started on the doors opened by learning a few words of the local language.

Strangely, many of these civilian girls can be far prettier than those in bars or streets, just minus the on point make up and sexy dresses.

Ever unwrapped jeans and a T-shirt to find a bikini model hiding underneath? Got to love surprises. 🎉.

[Goferring]

There is great truth to the first part of this. The 2-week warrior is engaging in a 2-tier pricing system. He is voluntarily paying more. The point-and-shoot system of Burgos (both bars and SW), AC, the old EDSA complex, and LAC (among others) is that the customer is paying more, for convenience...

You left out that he is also paying for quality. Some of that maybe that the average Burgos Gogo girl is prettier than the average street walker but that's not the only criteria. Mr Per Diem is also willing to pay for English speaking, unlikely to do a runner, unlikely to get robbed or that the whole street is simply more foreigner friendly. He sure as shit ain't roaming the streets of Tondo at 3 am to save $20.

[Goferring]

Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.

Gump, you're a God damn genius.

[WestCoast1]

The trouble with mongers who are about to engage in a 2-week fuckathon is that they stop thinking with their brains. Some never had any to start with. Some mongers should have been drowned at birth.

There is great truth to the first part of this. The 2-week warrior is engaging in a 2-tier pricing system. He is voluntarily paying more. The point-and-shoot system of Burgos (both bars and SW), AC, the old EDSA complex, and LAC (among others) is that the customer is paying more, for convenience. High-Priced-Convenience (HPC, I just made that up). Every girl in the bar or street, or in LAC understands this. The price she's looking to get (say, at LAC, of 2000 for ST) will involve a negotiation probably. However its not the price she's willing to go for. She knows that if you are in LAC, you have most likely come for a vacation, and you are not in the mood to dicker (much). She knows that she's dealing with ED's idiot. When she says "Where you from?" and you answer: I live here. That's a signal to her: it might be time for her to find another customer.

The lower-priced system (LPS) often belongs to the guys who live in town (or at least are here for a period of months). These gents can (and often do) simply pass on the HPC experience, getting a phone contact list full of girls who are willing to perform at the lower price (see Goferring's words below), in exchange for continued and repeated business.

Should have been drowned at birth. That probably includes me.

Some monger will come back and say that he got a chick for 300 peso in Tondo once and that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Its true, it probably happens to both LPS (more often) and HPC guys (less often). Again, see Goferring's words below. P10 k / session models do, on occasion, offer themselves up for 1/5 of their normal price to pay the electric bill. Do they offer that to some newb she's never met? No, she contacts one of her long-time regular gents in town and goes for whatever he offers (or is willing to settle for) this day.

I doubt it's one side is right and the other is wrong. It depends on who has the sense of urgency. SNIP If a girl is broke and needs the rent today then she will call up a known customer for however much will get the bills paid. She'll probably give a good session too so that he's happy to say yes again when called on in her hour of need.

On some occasions both situations may be the same girl. 😊.

Have had this (rare) experience more than once, with more than one model or influencer. Have heard same from other gents. And to be honest, the girls themselves aren't always very smart. The electric gets cut in her home, and she suddenly needs p1735 to pay the bill TODAY. She suggests to one of her regulars (who gives p10 k normally) that she visit with him today. He balks for any number of reasons (not horny, short on cash, blah blah). She probably should offer to cut her take to p5 k today, but instead blurts out in txt: "We have no electric. Cut. Need p1735 to pay it". He's going to get her for p2000 today. If she'd suggested the cut to 5 k without mentioning the emergency, she might have gotten it.

Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?

When I was a 2-3 week warrior, I felt the need to squeeze in as many as possible. I was (when younger) ED's brainless idiot. I should have negotiated better the price of the furniture, but I was not willing to let this or that hottie go, requiring more of my time to find another. Time was more important than money (for at least the first few years). I needed the girl more than the money.

Why not, and what has airline ticket cost to do with pussy pricing?

For the 2-week warrior, it has much to do with pricing. He is not willing / wanting to dicker. Its difficult for him to walk away, when she is right in front of him in a bar, or on vid call and just a mile away. The largesse of his trip for many warriors is on his mind, forcing a need for results. Guys who live in town don't worry about this. If her price is too high today, he will just look thru his contact list and find another, and another, and another. If he doesn't get laid today, he will another day. He also knows that she will have an emergency in the next few weeks and she will be more open to dickering down then.

Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.

And then there is that.

[PedroMorales]

1. Hold the line. Otherwise you are touristing everything from jeepneys upwards.

2. Coca Cola challenge. This evil American company boasts its product is the same everywhere. LBFMs are just that, hairy brown holes to borrow away at at a price worth doing it. No different than a game of darts or five in a row. But different from a heroin addict in the USA.

3. Hire a plumber. I got a small roof job priced. Two guys,. Half a day, the price of an hour with a star fish here. Which is better value, a starfish or a plumber?

[Mr Enternational]

I'm getting lost in all the metaphors Are we arguing Discrete Pricing Theory over hookers??

LOL. Me too! I was basically trying to say the same that PN did. Buying one thing has nothing to do with buying something else.

[Pute Nut]

Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30?

Why not, and what has airline ticket cost to do with pussy pricing? Quality of fucking is often inversely related to price anyways.

[Goferring]

Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?

I'm getting lost in all the metaphors Are we arguing Discrete Pricing Theory over hookers??

My situation is simple: if a girl quotes a price I'm happy with, then we're off. If another guy accepts a different price and has a good time too, then more power to them.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

There is no real need to spend hours on negotiating on Pina Love to get the fuck fee for an overnight stay down from 3000 to 2000 pesos. Just think about it. You've already spent thousands on your airfare getting to Manila and same again on accommodation, plus taking two weeks off from your job (if you have one). Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30?

Yes I am going to say no. I have never met a chick that I need. I am not desperate for pussy that I can not pass and get a different chick. It is the same as you mentioned buying a ticket. By your logic, if you know tickets are usually $10, but you see they are $15 at the moment, you should just go ahead and buy it and not wait until the price drops back down. If you know that you can get it for less, why pay more only on the basis that you have spent money on other things? So because I spent a lot of money on a house, I should not negotiate the price of the furniture that is going to go inside?

[Goferring]

I agree 100%.

I was there for a fuckation few weeks ago and I always paid 6 K - 7.5 K.

Got all- 19-24 yrs old. And had awesome sessions.

I doubt it's one side is right and the other is wrong. It depends on who has the sense of urgency. If someone has paid what equates to hundreds of dollars per day in airfares and wants a pretty girl before leaving in a few days, then he's happy to pay up to get what he wants. If a girl is broke and needs the rent today then she will call up a known customer for however much will get the bills paid. She'll probably give a good session too so that he's happy to say yes again when called on in her hour of need.

On some occasions both situations may be the same girl. 😊.

As long as both the baller and Cheap Charlie are happy in the end, who cares?

Enjoy. G.

[CreateNinnov8]

I agree 100%.

I was there for a fuckation few weeks ago and I always paid 6 K - 7.5 K.

Got all- 19-24 yrs old. And had awesome sessions.

The trouble with mongers who are about to engage in a 2-week fuckathon is that they stop thinking with their brains. Some never had any to start with. Some mongers should have been drowned at birth.

There is no real need to spend hours on negotiating on Pina Love to get the fuck fee for an overnight stay down from 3000 to 2000 pesos. Just think about it. You've already spent thousands on your airfare getting to Manila and same again on accommodation, plus taking two weeks off from your job (if you have one). Are you really going to say no to a fuckable chick for the sake of $17.30? Shit, you spill more than that at Friday afternoon drinks. It's about the cost of a subway meal.

An online girl will be between 3,000 - 5000 peso in Manila. A bit less in smaller towns.

Some monger will come back and say that he got a chick for 300 peso in Tondo once and that I don't know what I'm talking about.