Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Goferring]

Do Philippine college exams have costs to sit?

It's a big exam week in Cebu and the Chat rooms are flooded with 18 to 22 year olds. A coincidence or not?

Beware that a number are also "turning" 18 in a couple of months too.

[Goferring]

Continued from:

So, after being the flag waver for online P2 P I hit a snag when I arrived in Davao. Looking back I think I made two fundamental errors.

SNIP

Today continues with lunch with an ISG contributor and an afternoon Tinder drop in. We'll see. . . .

To be continued. . .

So Tinder Girl actually showed up. She probably had he most underweight photos to date but also had really nice tits. So after another "good girl" diatribe she got down to business. Really good BBBJ and tea-bagging. I'm a small guy so she was too big to throw around the room in multiple positions but an active mish finished the day. On the way out she insisted on true taxi money only so was happy with 300 p.

Day3 was a lunch date off FilCupid and you gassed it: a no show! No great loss as I'd given up waiting for promised meeting times and was at a contributor's place anyway. Later in the day I received a profound apology text saying she had fallen asleep after being kept up by her sick kid. I'm guessing that her time online all day with FC was speaking with a doctor? ? ? She promised and pleaded that she would drop around that night. I said "whatever, be here at 6 o'clock".

The contributor texted and asked of I would like to see a local KTV. I'm a KTV virgin so it seemed the ideal educational experience to me. I messaged the returning no show that I was going out for early drinks and I would text her again when we were back. She gave promises that she would be ok with returning after I had finished. ET KTV had big rooms, knock out girls (see the Photo Gallery), and 750 p ladies drinks. Apparently I also over paid for the girl at 3000 p ST but no great surprise as I had "Newbie" stamped all over my forehead. Regardless, I had a great time.

I texted the all nighter to say we had finished and I was on the way home. Her reply: "It's too late, can't get a taxi" at 9:00 pm! Aaaargh!!

I then messaged the 3 am girl. I was way to spent to do anything after mega-tits at the KTV but having someone already there to solve the following morning's wood seemed like a good idea. No answer.

Day4. 3 am girl was still sick in bed so I woke up alone. I had triple booked lunch so I was hopeful that something eventuates from that. 11 am for a nice call center chick just off work, 3 pm a little spinner fall back plan, 3 am girl for the afternoon and night if all turns to shit. Call center girl slept in after a big night on the phones. About 2 pm I got a hit from a cute spinner, "I'm just around the corner, should I come now? That was cutting it fine for the 3 pm but "a bird in the hand" and the pizz poor on time history of others made me say yes. I was starving so lunch was at an eatery nearbye and then up to the room. Suddenly she was not comfortable that I've seen other girls, did not want to get pregnant, yada yada yada. She left with no requests or offers of cash. Technically, I was down 400 p for her meal. While this was going on, I was not checking messages and sure enough the 3 pm spinner had actually arrived. She had left me a string of "where are you" then "fuck you" messages and then she blocked me from her account. Fuck!! She was the hot fish that got away. . .

I was so pissed, I flooded the chat rooms with "do you want to come over here now?" messages and I was bombarded with "Sure, what time?" replies. I parlayed that into one driving in that night for potentially an all nighter, a call center girl at 11 am, a new looker at 1 pm and a croupier at 7 pm.

So the supposed all all nighter turned up and was truly horrific. When it was clear that nothing was going to happen she introduced me to her friend from work, a Muslim Zamboangan girl who was clearly mortified at seeing a white guy. I cut both loose and returned to the room. A quick call to the 3 am girl found her still in bed with the flu.

Day 4 started and the call center girlie showed up. Yeah! And she was HOT. A slim little body struggled to support some 34 DDs. A barely there dress failed at conceiling anything. We had a light breakfast before we headed back to the room. The "good girl" sales pitch was replaced with "Before the call center, I worked at KTVs in Manila and Cebu, a foreigner bar in Korea and as a foreigner "tourguide" and "My American fiance is a dick because he won't let me go out and party with my girlfriends" etc, etc, etc. This girl has been AROUND. After the past few days' dramas, this made me horny as fuck. Some small talk about getting hammered in Angeles quickly led to power DFK. Tits were spilled and they were glorious! "Let's get your dress off" led to. . . "I'm not going to fuck you on the first meeting". . . . Aaaaargh! Are you fucking serious? I leave tomorrow! . . . . And she left with, "But I'll be back tonight". Of course, I thought this was total bullshit, I had just had the ultimate prick tease and there was no way in hell that she intended to come back. I was literally pacing the hotel room with frustration.

3 am girl texted that her cold is better. I was thinking "who the fuck cares?" But I had calmed down enough to reply that maybe she could come around tonight. This was to leave enough room for the other two appointment should the miraculous happen and they actually turn up.

Ms. 1 pm was indeed outside the hotel dead on time and then called me up to announce her arrival. Somehow she had managed to dial the wrong number, got another pina and assumed it was my wife or GF. She sent me a stream of abuse that would make a sailor blush about inviting her out while I was with another girl before I assured her that I was the only one in the room and she had dialled a wrong number. When I was in the taxi I saw that she was another looker and we went off to lunch. By this time all the mental games had fried my head so I was just happy to have a good lunch with a pretty girl. She actually held a pretty good conversation as well so that made it all the better. At the end of the meal she went shopping and I went back and crashed.

When I arrived back I received a call from the croupier saying that her friends wanted to come out as well to our 7 pm date. I wasn't interested in feeding a bunch of free loaders so I said that one girlfriend is ok but if there are more it would be better if she enjoyed the night with them and we could see each other next time.

Needless to say, the call center girlie never showed though I still live in hope. Maybe she just lost her phone. . . LOL. A few texts to 3 am. Girl found that things were in deed looking better. She was feeling much better. She still desperately wanted to see me. She would be around at 9 pm to wish me safe travels. . . And she was a no show.

All up, I certainly enjoyed Davao. Chat rooms work in a different way in the Provinces.

Planning and hitting the rooms early was a complete failure and actually worked against me. Similarly, going for the lookers and expecting immediate results was ludicrous.

What I should have done was waited until I was in town before making contact, allow time for some introductory dates and stay an extra couple of days to allow finding the right girls. There is certainly an abundance of straight acting girls that will jump in bed but need a date or two to convince themselves, their friends and the punters that they are indeed "good girls". I don't think it was a coincidence that my (only. ?) smooth day was the last one before leaving. Now that I have done the ground work, I have a few numbers that I would happily contact again but it took a lot of effort to get those.

Having local knowledge was invaluable. So many thanks to contributors and their friends who assisted in my stay. I would definitely recommend doing a lot of research and getting as much on-the-ground Intel has possible before arrival.

[Tagalog2016]

When we discuss non pro Filipina girls and how to treat them in the right way, we never mention such important thing as age and appearance of a monger.

Well, first thing first. It's all about money, and there shouldn't be any speculations about that. No matter how young and good looking guy you are, anyway even best girl hopes you will provide her in the long run, marry her, get her to your home country or whatever it could be, related with financial interest she could gain from you in future.

Still pinays are not robots, they are human beings, and such things as a physical and emotional empathy are not alien to them. It does matter, whether to spend a time with a good looking 30-40 yo monger, or with 65 yo fat old grey haired man with double chin and flabby butt, who is older than her grandpa.

The basic rule is, if you don't consider, you can have a success with relatively young woman in your home country, then most probably you look same unattractive for a foreign girl, for Filipina in particular. It's obvious, still some guys forget about that.

That's when all differences start to reveal. Someone says, he was successful and some girls from dating sites didn't mention money, while other reports, he had a hard time even to make an appointment, and those girls, who agree, were reluctant and demanded gifts and money right away.

Didn't you think, such behavior could be related with you as a person in the first place? That is why it is not totally correct to compare your experience with experience of your fellow mongers. Just try to assess yourself evenly before to pose as a playboy. Maybe it's worth to stick to P4 P exclusively, before to enroll to dating site and play "relationship" game.

Despite it was said many times already, I still want to add a word of warning for everybody. Long term relationship with Filipina is a trap both for young and old guys. Young guy can lose his vigilance in time, mixing up empathy, which Filipina can truly feel to him with genuine love. A possibility of material benefit will always prevail over feelings for Filipinas, and that is a reality. It will lead to bad consequences eventually.

For older guys, sweetness and slyness can also be misinterpret as love, or al least as a devotion for his kindness and generosity. Remember, that pinays never feel devotion. No matter how experienced and old a guy is, he can fall in love anyway and lose his head and thus to enable pinay to suck all money out of him.

Also some guys mix up definition of "middle class" in Philippines. They naively think, that if a girl is a call center operator, office worker, or clerk at bank, then she earns enough and thus is not interesting in money. Average salary for call center operator in Manila should be 15 - 20 K peso something which is equal to 280 - 380 USD. Cashier at bank earns around 30 K, which is equal to 570 USD. Sure thing it is not enough and they are always interested in your money.

The bottom line: Relatively short term relationship for free are possible, if you are a good looking young guy, or a good storyteller. If you are not, then don't expect it to differ from classic P4P relationship. Long term relationship is a trap and should be avoid at all costs, no matter who you are if you don't want to become a cash cow eventually.

[Mua Tur]

It's about the poverty. Poverty is poor people. Poor people is no money. No money is no food. You have a full belly, try going a long period of time with an empty stomach! You might be selling your wife and daughters to feed the family. Possibly your bakla son's ass too.

If you are experienced like that I m not going to make a debate in this issue.

Cambodia and Laos are still steep in poverty. Where are some mongers going to now?

In all my travels the only people who spout immorality are the ones with a full belly.

Yes. Always there immoral peoples in any place regardless full belly or empty.

But the question is what is the percentage of peoples are keeping money on the top than any other things? In my experience Philippine is in the top. Even there are more Poverty effected places in the world but not interested to keep aside their moral value for money.

[Tagalog2016]

What do you mean how it comes?

For Pinays fair skinned guy is a priori a rich dude. Same applies towards Korean and Japanese mongers. I agree, that there are exceptions when Indians are more wealthy, or at least they spend more at their Filipinas, but that is still uncommon.

So if to ask an average pinay, whom would she choose for "relationship": young good looking Pakistani, or fat old US guy, she would definitely choose a latter.

[Mr Enternational]

In all my travels the only people who spout immorality are the ones with a full belly.

Now this needs to be the tagline in the Morality of Prostitution thread.

[Dg8787]

My pal still I have some difference in opinion with you.

Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar also have poverty. If we consider Asian zone even Vietnam or China have poverty in some extant. But you can check (I already did) in these places money don't work in support of immorality. If does sure high paid and never been worthy. Just because history of those country not same as Philippine. Still they live in their own value and culture.

Philippine was always been conquered by the European voyagers. That's why different parts of Philippine have different mind construction even languages too in some extant. Than Japan made a mess in 2nd world war than the western influences. All blended and made an unique mindset in Philippine. It's not only poverty its what not to be contended what they have. That's why even wives, if go outside for money that's no matter for their hubby / BF.

My friend, a few decades back both Vietnam and China were steep in poverty. Plenty of pussy at cheap prices then. As both countries economy grew and with less poverty came higher prices and less available pussy for sale.

It's about the poverty. Poverty is poor people. Poor people is no money. No money is no food. You have a full belly, try going a long period of time with an empty stomach! You might be selling your wife and daughters to feed the family. Possibly your bakla son's ass too.

Cambodia and Laos are still steep in poverty. Where are some mongers going to now?

In all my travels the only people who spout immorality are the ones with a full belly.

[Mr Enternational]

About 30 - 50 % of suitors from dating sites and FB are guys from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc. How it comes, that they usually prefer fat old bald European or US guys over young good looking mongers from lets say Sri Lanka?

What do you mean how it comes? It comes from the fat, old, bald European or US guys. Same as I posted a report in the Pattaya thread the other day about some (not one and not a couple) new Indian discos popped up here. I went and visited them and they were full of Thai women. Whereas before everyone would always talk about how Thai women do not like Indian guys. One guy responded to my post saying no they don't as if I had not seen this with my own eyes. And to top it off I went back last night! Met a chick that just left my room. And also to dispel the rumors of how cheap they are there is a thing where they can buy fake money for US $30 to throw all over some belly dancers that they have performing on the dance floor. Kind of like the ping pong ball thing except you are up there dancing around with some Russian chick(s).

Also I posted before about a chick in AC showing me her whatsapp where an Indian brother saying that he opened a bank account and next time he will just bring her the ATM card instead of continuing to send money western union.

Then another guy posted a report yesterday in the AC thread saying that he had spoken to a Korean guy in the club and come to find out girls are treating them the same way others that said Koreans are ruining the place are getting treated. So contrary to popular opinion it ain't all rosy on their side either.

[Dg8787]

All hot Pinay pudding tang is available for purchase. Social class only changes the price points, duration of negotiations, and degree of discretion required to close the deals.

Unless you have had enough money and to actually buy Pinay pudding tang in all social classes I will consider this conjecture. Please provide details, of course leave out the names to maintain discretion.

[Mua Tur]

Example 1: It's my experience in Tashkant, Uzbekistan. In one night me and a local pal went to pay a visit a night club at Timur park. If m not wrong the name was "Napolian". We were in bar counter having our drinks than I feel a soft spark of touch in my hand. When I turn around my face I saw this cutie little champ smiling to me. So I invited her for drinks according to her choice. Immediately I fall on her and wanted to take her to hotel. We were taken to Mamasan; while we were negotiating a phone call came from my hotel, the hotel owner arranged a party and plenty of girls coming over there so we don't need to bring any girl with us. And we cancelled the deal. But the girl never leaved us; always moving around even for phone call I went out to avoid noise she never stopped. Going to wash room again and again, walking in front of me or coming by me flashing her diamonds to make me changing my mind. While we were sitting on table and sipping our drinks she came to us several times even pulling my hands at least I have to make a dance with her. There were several couples were dancing on dance floor, not my cup of tea, so I refused her every time.

Example 2: My DIA girl is from San Fernando, Pampanga, so we decided to meet at AC. It was two days plan but after one day she got a problem in home and went back. So I get One free day before I met my next contact in Manila. I m not a non sleeper in night so I decided I have to give a try for day time action. I went to my known venue the bar under the Perimeter Hotel, Perimeter Road. It's a day time bar for 10 am to 5 pm. A girl catch my eye dancing on the dance floor tall and well shaped. Once I get eye contact I called her and she joined with me in the bar counter. She asked lady drink and I oblige. Than she asked can she share her drink with her friend; I said NO, instead I offer a full drink for her friend too. While drinking with two girls I lost my chemistry and when they asked m I taking any of them I declined. Both girls ran out from me and Jumped on a new comer for new drinks. I came out from the bar seeing both girls highly busy with just arriving visitor and nothing to me.

All the girls in the examples are sex workers. But the Tashkent girl was very keen to give me a return since she had a drink from me. But the AC girls just forget few min before by whom they had their drinks and the commission too.

The moresal (thanks Westi): Here is the difference of morality of Phil girls with others. They are taker in any way no matter what after that.

[Tagalog2016]

Non-pro women of all nationalities, in all countries, want a man that they will be safe with, that will protect them and that will provide for them.

Several pinays amused me showing their Skype, FB and whatsup conversations. And there was something interesting there. About 30 - 50 % of suitors from dating sites and FB are guys from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc. How it comes, that they usually prefer fat old bald European or US guys over young good looking mongers from lets say Sri Lanka? Maybe they have perverted representation of physical beauty? Then why they don't choose old ugly Pinoys? The answer is simple: physical appearance is much less important for them, then your wealth. They are looking for money in the first place. They know that India or Pakistan are poor countries, so they are not interested in people, who are broke.

It has nothing to do with women from different countries who establish relationship based on traditional values. Of course stability is important for every woman, but the question is how they set their priorities. If money is most important thing for them, then they are WG as well. But if your personality is the key feature of the establishment of relationship, then they are normal women.

The problem with pinays is that they initially set wrong priorities. I mean, those priorities are wrong for us, but not for them. They want to live happy wealthy life and want to help their families. But if relationship is based on financial interest it never leads to happy end. Some people say, there are a lot of examples of happy marriages between pinays and westerners. But who say, they are really happy? If you willingly accept the rules of the game and you are willing to pay for the rest of your relationship lasts, then go on, but be aware, that for her it is just a deal and love will end as soon as you stop to give her, what she truly wants.

[Mua Tur]

All hot Pinay pudding tang is available for purchase. Social class only changes the price points, duration of negotiations, and degree of discretion required to close the deals.

Correct explanation.

[Mua Tur]

Of course money works here for you with the girls who don't have any. News flash, it works in other 3rd world countries, with those who don't have any. It doesn't work for you with people that have money.

My pal still I have some difference in opinion with you.

Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar also have poverty. If we consider Asian zone even Vietnam or China have poverty in some extant. But you can check (I already did) in these places money don't work in support of immorality. If does sure high paid and never been worthy. Just because history of those country not same as Philippine. Still they live in their own value and culture.

Philippine was always been conquered by the European voyagers. That's why different parts of Philippine have different mind construction even languages too in some extant. Than Japan made a mess in 2nd world war than the western influences. All blended and made an unique mindset in Philippine. It's not only poverty its what not to be contended what they have. That's why even wives, if go outside for money that's no matter for their hubby / BF.

[Chocha Monger]

Phone is just one of million other stuffs she could ask you to buy directly or indirectly. It could be money for medication, her papa urgently needs, bills, loans, anything. As respected Chocha Monger told, you should always say no and stick your dick in her mouth instead so that not to hear all this BS about money.

Unfortunately newbie mongers spoiled a lot of pinays from dating sites, who claim, they want relationship, offering them money after sex and paying their bills. Just never do that. Period...

That is a very keen accurate observation. The only mongers denying the extremely promiscuous and adulterous nature of Filipinas are expats or regular visitors married to, or in long-term relationships with, Filipinas. Some may even have half-Filipina daughters and granddaughters. Hence, they feel obligated to defend the honor of all Filipinas. It is only natural for them to defend their kin and interests.

However, any mongers having a soft head that leads them to believe the sweet lies, bedroom performances, and romantic theatrics that Filipinas put on, is headed for a major life crisis. Some mongers fall deeply into love and lose their minds, they start taking their Filipina seriously and believing her declarations of love everlasting. It is easy for a man to lose himself in those seemingly sincere dark opal eyes staring into his soul with childlike innocence. Surely, such a smooth-skinned silky-haired petite harmless Filipina fucklet cannot tell the wickedest lies, and possesses an insatiable lust for man flesh and cold hard cash. After burying their pork swords to the hilt and spilling their seed in her tight hot wet sweet meat, the poor fellas lose their grip on reality. They start thinking this Filipina must be the exception! Nothing will convince them that their docile doe-eyed little fuck monster does not belong in the 1% of truly good Filipinas.

Snapping backing into reality can be fatal for fellas who believe their Filipina is a paragon of virtue like Maria Clara. This crisis may come in many forms. Some fellas discover she was fucking the trike driver, and he is actually her husband from a traditional marriage conducted in her home village and never registered with the central government. They dig a bit further and realize that she was married to the trike driver before she met them and her relationship with them was nothing more than an elaborate lie for the past 5 years or more.

Many foreigners cannot comprehend that depth of deception, they start trying to sort out the reality from the fiction. Were her orgasms real? She did get sopping wet and fuck like a demon with her eyes glazed over. There was no faking that. Yet, the declarations of love and them being the only one for her were obviously lies, though in the moment they seemed genuine. Her tears of love, were they real or fake? Why would someone do such a thing for money? More than a few foreign fellas could not sort out the answers, and lost confidence in their ability to tell what was real and what was illusion. In an effort to escape their nightmares, they hurled themselves from high rooftops, windows and balconies.

It is true that the Filipinas are always insisting on the foreign boyfriend or husband being honest and loyal, while they themselves are untrustworthy cheaters and liars. I went to the field in search of an answer to this paradox. The answer was a simple one. It went like this, "Don't be stupid! Of course we want our foreigners to be honest and loyal; we don't want to share their money to other girls!

[Chocha Monger]

Honestly speaking I am not into red light area hunting nor hoping bars. That's why AC is not my usual play ground. I m based on Dating sites and Inter connections. I don't have Blond hair Nordic looks but my success rates pulls me in Philippine 3 or 4 times in a year. Wherever places I visited in Philippine always I succeeded more secrete plants for next action. I would not say taking them bed happens fast every time but patience and nursing always proved fruitful.

Yes money works in Philippine in high speed rather than any other places even speeder than Thailand. My perception develops because of my failure rate is very few even m not handsome or looker. Financial inability and influence of western culture makes Philippine unique and paradise for mongers.

All hot Pinay pudding tang is available for purchase. Social class only changes the price points, duration of negotiations, and degree of discretion required to close the deals.