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[Nice Guy 99]

NEVER FALL IN LOVE with the filipinas that you will meet on Tagged / WE Chat / Viber / DIA / Filipino Cherry etc etc etc.
These are bad women for the most part and 99% will cheat on you.They are useful but they are not wives!

PP.

Great post and aligns with my experience. The short quote is unduly negative, read 'Pounders complete post for perspective.

[Pinaypounder]

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences. There's frequent chatter about PinaLove and other online dating resources here, so I want to add some fuel to the conversational fire. During this trip, I intentionally limited my interactions to only online resources and only non-professionals. It's easy to grab a ST girl from WeChat et al. , but I wanted to see.

I agree 100% with all you have said here!

IT is correct! I have done the same with having a GF that I tell them about and we had 3 3 somes using this method. Alot of time and effort though and sex with newbies can be bad sex!

PP.

[Pinaypounder]

NEVER FALL IN LOVE with the filipinas that you will meet on Tagged / WE Chat / Viber / DIA / Filipino Cherry etc etc etc. These are bad women for the most part and 99% will cheat on you.

There are many good women beyond the reach of these tools in the country but chances are if you are reading this you won't want to meet them because this class of woman won't fuck you within 60 minutes of having met you. You are here for the same reasons I am, easy petite ****!

IF they are fucking you right away they are not potential wives but they can be wonderful friends.

There are good Filipina Women but if you chat her and you see her pussy in the first chat or two you have met a player. And the Fantasy will begin.

They are not smart, but they are carnal and know that the pussy is their best chance at a better life and that is fine. Don't fall in love with them. Use them and reward them PROPERLY over paying is FING STUPID and limits the field.

Be polite, be proper but know that she will be cheating you as soon as she can. KNOW THIS. I may only have a few hundred posts but this is my 3rd profile since 2006.

While the Filipina are amazingly easy to bed, they are highly likely to have 3 somes and are by far more attractive than the white cows found here they are not marriage material. And we all know that makes us feel good and hey as men we can use some of this. We certainly are 2nd class citizens in our own countries.

BUT do NOT fall in love.

To a Filipina "white lies" are ok. To a Filipina real lies are ok if it helps them! A white lie is for example being when you ask her if she has fucked another man she says no, then you discover she had a 3 some with a lb and another woman for her other BF.

You see LB are not men, and the other BF only watched and paid for it so it was really not your business. GET USED TO THIS!

When you discuss this with other filipina friends, they will say that's ok, you just should have an open relationship. REALLY?

IF the Filipina is on the NET and is attractive dozens of better looking men than YOU will offer to woo her DAILY! DAILY .

Filipina have a completely different perspective on cheating and lying even when you think you are being "open and honest".

This is OK when you are PLAYIng them, but know this you are also being played. KNOW THIS KNOW THIS KNOW THIS.

The Internet has created a generation of people like no other, sexual pleasure is a click away, and the Filipina with their shitty bandwidth also know this.

So never involve your heart but also don't treat them poorly they are just common sluts like US, we are the same, I am not judging just educating.

Every trick we teach them is spreads to the masses in days so keep them ignorant and poor and they will remain our our LBFM.

IF you want to find one to bring HOME do not expect to find them here amongst us. You can take the Filipina out of the Philippines but you can't take the Philippines out of the Filipina, their culture is abhorrent it is the worst culture I have ever learned of.

Over the years I have met 3 - 5 good women, women who would not cheat out of maybe 1000 to 1400. I have fucked about 200 of them and I have been playing these games since 2007.

I wanted to bring 3 here, all cheated. ALL. I am actually now not mad anymore, I just have finally accepted you can't marry a filipina that is a total loving sexual deviant like I am. I have lived to long in the fantasy and it is a fantasy.

They are useful but they are not wives!

PP.

[Simmer]

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences...

Thanks, that's a great report.

[Member #4558]

Well I on the other hand always donate generously to the girls I run through each trip. Pinays are sometimes to shy to ask so it only feels right in my book to do so even if money never at any stage are being mentioned (so here you go Mr E, your welcome). Its me bringing it up. I am also younger guy by the way. There are ways to donate in a friendly non prostitute manner (call it a gift, hide money in her purse or better still put money in an envelope and write her name on it and make contribution). Only one girl refusing to take my money so far as she restocked the money in a shoe next to the entrance door without my knowledge, damn her.

So getting freebies is only cheap in my book when we have so much more than them (the average western guy vs average pinay girl). Yes I also meet girls in the same bracket as Fictional space and based on his writings I conduct also a seemingly similar MO. It was a great report by Fictional space by the way for nubes to adopt. But I cheer for a donation post session on my behalf. If you round them up for relationship purposes its another ballgame me thinks because you will eventually pay steep. Just how I feel about it (I am not particular tight on moneys).

[FictionalSpace]

Did you mean non-prostitutes (non-pros)?When I used to post about normal everyday free chicks in various threads of ISG, there were a lot of posters who would come out scolding that "They expect money, but are too shy to ask. You are supposed to give them money anyway. "I totally agree.

Yes, I was after your average non-working girl. I didn't want the WeChat pros or bargirls.

Two of the girls cabbed to my place and two walked. For the two in taxis, I slipped them cab fare. Neither of them asked for it in advance (or at all, actually) and both of them tried to refuse it (as one would expect). But it's a bit like a date and I would certainly offer to pay for drinks if I were out with them, so cab fare is fine by me. No extra money was exchanged and covering cab fares did not seem expected in the least.

[Mr Enternational]

During this trip, I intentionally limited my interactions to only online resources and only non-professionals.

Did you mean non-prostitutes (non-pros)?

Every single one came directly to my place without a meet up in advance. I spent exactly zero moolah on these endeavors, but it did take quite a bit more work than just pulling a bar girl or from WeChat.

When I used to post about normal everyday free chicks in various threads of ISG, there were a lot of posters who would come out scolding that "They expect money, but are too shy to ask. You are supposed to just give them money anyway." If that is the case then I must be dealing with chicks who have the patience of Job; because after many years I am still banging a lot of the same chicks who have yet to ask for any money. Could it be that they still have not gotten over their shyness?

All in all, lots of girls just want to have fun or are curious. But they don't want to feel used or cheap. Make them feel special (just like women everywhere, huh?) and you'll see the pay off.

I totally agree.

[Sammon]

Talk to many, land a few so the saying goes. There are some who do and others don, t. Generally many young girls are afraid of foreigners. Least of which is because of penis size. They are afraid of mistreatment or violence. Being gentle goes a long way in re assuring them. Girls who are single parents are easy to bed with.

Most girls irrespective of what they say in their profile of wanting only serious relationship and other bullshit readily will engage in sex once you start. Age is not at all important. Besides if you are good looking and young you can find girls anywhere.

[MrWoolyBooly]

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences.

Outstanding, detailed, how-to guide. I can vouch that the same techniques work even as we males age. As you mentioned, it's a numbers game.

[FictionalSpace]

I just returned from a short trip to Manila and wanted to share my experiences. There's frequent chatter about PinaLove and other online dating resources here, so I want to add some fuel to the conversational fire. During this trip, I intentionally limited my interactions to only online resources and only non-professionals. It's easy to grab a ST girl from WeChat et al. , but I wanted to see if it was possible to fill all of my time with regular girls.

The answer was a resounding yes. In three nights I met four girls, slept with all of them multiple times, and had each of them request to come back and join me again. Every single one came directly to my place without a meet up in advance. I spent exactly zero moolah on these endeavors, but it did take quite a bit more work than just pulling a bar girl or from WeChat. Here's the rundown:

Girl 1: PinaLove, age 27. Just wanted to try out a foreigner. I got in in the middle of the night and she got off work at 1 am. She met me at my place. Simple.

Girl 2: PinaLove, age 25. Beautiful, tiny girl. We flirted on PinaLove before my arrival and on my second afternoon she was riding me at my place. Again, easy.

Girl 3: Tinder, age 18. College student who, at 11 pm on a Sunday night, agreed to come have a beer and hang out. The rest was history.

Girl 4: Badoo, age 23. On my final afternoon, I managed one last hurrah.

I had other options set up and just ran out of time and energy. They'll have to wait for another day.

After this experience, I think I have some general tips and thoughts for anyone to consider. For reference, I'm relatively young (under 30), decent looking. Your age, appearance, and demeanor will definitely influence your results. Anyway, tips and thoughts:

1. PinaLove (et al. , but I'll just use that for example as it was my main resource) was time consuming. I bought a short paid membership to avoid the hassle of message limiting on free accounts. I sent a LOT of messages and tried a LOT of different messaging strategies ranging from extremely straight forward to genuine flirting. I found that straight forward was not the most successful tactic. Telling girls right off the bat that I was just looking for fun drove a lot of them away. I dropped that and opted to just be flirty and have conversations. Most of them end up going nowhere. Some seem promising and then die. A few pan out. It's a numbers game.

2. I was honest (or at least consistent). I stuck with one name, one story for every single girl. This was less about being honest with them and more so that I didn't mix up my stories. When I was juggling many conversations at once, it was way easier to just have a straight play. If you have to lie, at least use the same story with every girl.

3. Inevitably, usually when I invited them to my place, the question of intentions came up. At this point I had to make a decision. It depended on the girl, but usually I was opaque. I would hint at sex, but never say it outright. These girls don't want to feel like hookers. They want to be wooed. Plant the seed that that's what will happen and then play coy. Once they come visit you, you can slowly work your way there.

4. I was, though, straight up about how long I was in town. I would mention that I visit fairly often (true) and would be back, but that I only had a limited window to see them on this trip. That motivated things in many cases (and in others, weeded out the ones that weren't going to come over so quickly).

5. I stayed in an AirBnB condo and the girls seemed to like that. No hotel, no feeling like a WeChat girl going to visit someone. Plenty of space, a homey feel. I would definitely recommend this route. It's cheaper anyway, so if you don't mind making your own bed, I'd recommend it. I had multiple visitors over the course of the weekend and no hassle from security.

6. I stayed in Makati. A few girls asked me if I stayed in Ermita or Malate and when I said no, they seemed to drop their guard a bit.

7. Tinder has higher class girls on it than the dating sites. It's definitely harder, but can pay off with some effort.

8. After you start messaging, get her phone number ASAP. Use Viber (or similar) to communicate after that. Even if the conversation dies out (many will), you can strike it up later and many will pick right back up. Don't get sexual in the conversation until she does! She probably realizes what you're after, but I found it way better to let her set the pace.

9. Have pictures in your online dating profile. Many legitimate girls won't talk without a picture or two. I left the rest of the profile mostly blank.

10. Be prepared to invest some time a week or two before your visit. Dating sites work best with a little prep work.

11. Keep your place stocked with drinks, both alcoholic and non-. Many girls will decline to drink alcohol when they first arrive, but it's classy to at least offer.

All in all, lots of girls just want to have fun or are curious. But they don't want to feel used or cheap. Make them feel special (just like women everywhere, huh?) and you'll see the pay off.

[Pinaypounder]

Be upfront and straight forward (hard for most Westerners) and then you have less drama and less trouble with more sex and you can still develop good relationships with them with proper framework.

PP.

[WestCoast1]

I was speaking of free chicks when I wrote that. SNIP, the ones you have never even talked about sex with.

I'm aware. Hence our different worlds. I try not to let free chicks in my room. This reduces to near-zero any confusion on either part as to what is about to happen.

[Mr Enternational]

The different worlds we live in. My girls understand on their first visit that the only reason they are coming to my hotel is for sex. She's getting her kit off within a minute of the door closing.

I was speaking of free chicks when I wrote that. Not chicks that you are paying or giving "gifts" too. As Wolven discussed, the ones you have never even talked about sex with.

[WestCoast1]

It seems many guys are too anxious to fuck instead of giving the girls a chance to naturally warm up to them.

The different worlds we live in. My girls understand on their first visit that the only reason they are coming to my hotel is for sex. She's getting her kit off within a minute of the door closing. While I might have met her in public just prior (to look her over), and bought her a coffee or juice, there is no wine to calm the nerves once in the room before the boom (possibly after). I don't do romance, which I spell out very clearly prior (front-loading is necessary). That does *not* mean that I don't develop positive relationships with many girls. I do. However, that comes thru LATER visits.

[Mr Enternational]

No, not at all.

Most of them actually contacted me first and I cannot remember we even talked "sex" on line before we met. They all had proper "good girl" profiles.

It seems many guys are too anxious to fuck instead of giving the girls a chance to naturally warm up to them.