Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[GregLondon]

i'm currently visiting for 3 weeks. usually i hang out in manila for a couple if days, shopping at lac now mbc. this time decided to try freebies, hunted on tagged.com. this us a great site, like facebook. got 3 numbers out if 10 tries. and have met all 3. met them in moa and robinsons. 2 went on to clubbing then spent the night, neither asked for anything in return. the 3rd one wanted to go with me to my hotel, but being 18 and looking younger, did not have her id, so i passed, didn't want any **** problems.
i also met 1 of the girls i've chatted with on cams2chat.en she didn't mess around coming straight to my room and spending the night. she wanted only cab fare even though i tried to give more.
now i'm in angeles doing girls the old fashioned way. things there are pretty much normal with the exception of a couple clubs still shutdown.

plenty of girls on these dating sites won't "ask for anything in return" the question is whether this is because she is too shy/embarassed to ask or whether she is perfectly happy not to get anything in return. i've known 20 yr old girls who spent the night with some say 50 yr old guy in say the marriott (costing maybe 5000p per night) who were absolutely seething that in the morning he told them to go "because he had a meeting" and in some cases didn't give them a single peso even for the taxi. however when i asked well did you ask for anything they say, no i'm not like that, i just assumed that he is mature enough to understand that i can't do it for free.

now this is the type of guy who is probably regaling his buddies or the folks on forums like this how phil girls are so easy, that he is still attractive enough to pull young girls blah blah.

in some cases these guys are cheap charlies who just want to minimise their expenditure, however i presume that guys willing to pay marriott type rates (though admittedly for some the question is money paid out of his own pocket vs on corporate expense account) either don't know the score here or are on some sort of ego trip.

in some cases guys have actually been quite generous with presents such as shopping at ayala mall or buying flowers etc. what they don't seem to appreciate is that in asia: cash is king.

for a poor girl spending 1000p at a posh restaurant or 2000p buying stuff worth 500p at ayala or 3000p on flowers doesn't pay the bills . they are generally much happier with a crisp 1000p note as "heres something for the taxi ".

i'm not suggesting that every phils girl needs to be paid.

1 some girls are playing the long game of trying to persuade you that they are a good girl to marry.

2 some girls have a well paid job or family or foreign bf support so are not too worried about money.

3 some girls are relatively mature or otherwise not so appealing so are primarily interested in sex for pleasure

4 some girls are out for a good night, get drunk and horny and are looking for a reasonably attractive guy to fuck.

however for the vast majority of poor girls either students or shop girls etc on 5000p a month, the idea of going with a fat balding 50 year old white guy is the hope/expectation that he will help her financially.

because in the less touristed parts of phils, many of these girls will have only met a few guys, they will not have learned that these issues sometimes need to be clarified in advance, in the way that girls with greater concentrations of tourists such as thailand certainly do.

[GregLondon]

I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?

They seem to be able to recognise and blacklist your PC. I don't know whether they collect info or they have put a cookie onto your machine. The net result is that if you get booted off you are likely to have to set a new account and upload a photo up on someone else's PC/laptop. I don't know how they cope with internet cafe Pcs as obviously there will be plenty that get blacklisted. Once your new account is up and running you are able to open it from your old "blacklisted" PC/Laptop

[GregLondon]

quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.

I see. I suspect that taking the DIA site down is not going to make you a popular guy on ISG. Or don't you give a Sh*t about other mongers??

[Riverman]

I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a real girl.

The first big clue is in their profile stats. Filipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less. This isn’t always true, of course, but is almost always true. And if she is over 110 lbs, she will look like a chubs in her pic.

If the girl in the pic is super cute and height weight proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 128 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enough to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually dont.

This has worked so well for me, that if i check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above and/or she looks cute and proportional, but her weight is above 120 lbs, i just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.

Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often their best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many Filipinas for the taking, that if i occasionally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.

The second big clue is facial features. Some of these fake ladies can be quite pretty. But their features wont be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white European woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.

A good example of this, is the jaw. If the jawbone is wide or big, but “she” looks pretty and the stats don’t correlate, bingo, u spotted one.

Since instituting the height/weight rule, i haven’t been sandbagged by a single fake lady. Hope this helps someone.

[Riverman]

I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a ladyboy. The first big clue is in their profile stats. Flipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less.

If the girl in the pic is super cute and heignt wieght proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 123 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enouph to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually don't.

This has worked so well for me, that if I check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above, or she looks cute and proporational, but her wieght is above 120 lbs, I just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.

Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often thier best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many filipinas for the taking, that if I occasionnally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.

The second big clue is facial features. Some of these ladyboys can be quite pretty. But their features won't be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white european woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.

Since instituting the height/weight rule, I haven't been sandbagged by a single Ladyboy. Hope this helps someone.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.

TC

That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D

[Rampana]

[QUOTE
I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".

Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)[/QUOTE]


this is also VERY TRUE, WR.

[Wicked Roger]

Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/onl...l-insights.php

Well as long as she was cute slim pinay and freshly shaved with a leaning towards naughty/kinky then I would happily play along :D

As for the link well:

1. Some are losers...we know that as we have a few memebrs here who are truly sad and use the dating web sites

2. We do lie a lot ...we are mongers (well we are "economical with the truth" :)). Of course when our profile says we are looking for ST fun no strings we are telling the truth of course, but only a few of us ever admit up front to that

3 and 4. Agree..how many times we find a chubby in person not the cutie in the picture? or worse a LB / tranny. Did it really mean we chat longer if we place an animal in our profile picture... well that may get you banned or a large number of unusual friends!!!


5. Disagree. We are older bald guys some more weight than others and no way will a 18-20 American/UK etc girl chat to you let alone let you deflower her (and ask her if she likes bondage and Greek)!! We are opposites of what we chase and desire unless of course the Brad Pitt pill is that good and we are cute and look young as well

6. Agree - we are diverse and some of us very diverse...like Freebie Fan LOL

7. Cant disagree, as we all say that we should get to the point of our message (ie "we need lots of shagging and no complaints about our sexual habits ...just enjoy the leather and PVC" :D)

8. Would "horny" and "hard on" be considered emotional words LOL

9. Interesting statistic and I wonder what it is for mongers like you and me. Once screened including YM etc and C2C I tend to meet most of them but I do reduce that list to a small number initially

10. Well it is maybe for a relationship but for you, me, Freebie and many others we seem to do OK in "relationships" :)

Given the conclusion we are relatively successful as we find what we want most of the time and we are happy and satisfied

Roll on the conference :)

[FreebieFan]

Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/onl...l-insights.php

Love the quote in it that " online daters lie, but only a little".

That just about sums me up. LOL.

Or" Internet dating encourages diversity". I agree. Mine are all between 38 kg and 52kg and all Asian. Very diverse!

[Red Kilt]

Check this out,

A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/onl...l-insights.php

[Wicked Roger]

Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.

TC

That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D

[Toronto]

Good Luck Toronto.

Hope all going well with you.

Thanks, the tips I got from you when we met my last trip greatly helped.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

If you cannot tell a LB with cam, then you are new to mongering or nearsighted and need to see an opthamologist. Also, if they've had the complete tranny treatment, they are, for all intents and purposes, except pregnancy, (a benefit!) women.

LOL...bro you are not alone...i too had encounters with LB's pretending to be girls...Cam, Mobile phone confirmation are no guarantee....its collateral damage....I don't have the heart to throw them away rudely....i usually buy them beers, give some money and send them in a taxi....and hunt again....i have given up weeding out LB and real girls...of the 100 girls you date may be one would turn out to be a LB...its no biggie...keep on hunting :)

[TurdyCurdyOne]

Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.

They have your ISP number, so if you were booted off then your ISP is still banned. A new ID will not help.

That's my guess anyway. I often change my ID and never have any problems. Go to an internet cafe and set up a new account from there and then see if it can be used from your regular computer.

[Fast Buck Artist]

I'm wondering if this is because I generally do my chatting with the ladies whilst I'm at work, generally in the morning.

Good point, I think there is more quality to be found in the morning before the freaks wake up and go out to pasture.

Also do not chat too long prior your meeting because that girls will tend to cling on you and will become difficult to get rid off....

I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".

Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)