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  1. #1068
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    I also know her profile from there, she will get most of her travel invitations via SA.
    Cheers. I finally found her on SA. I accidentally set the search filter for max height to 167 cm, when her profile has it as 168 cm. I feel so dumb now.

    In real life, she is 160 cm.

  2. #1067

    Ukrainian girl 2

    So this is number 2 that I invited over, 1 week before girl #1's second meeting, to Switzerland. This one was a bit difficult to invite over, as she was busy with study and travelling back to Moscow multiple times for maximum 5 days. It was frustrating for me that it took a while to get progress with the invite, that I said to myself. As "insurance" that she doesn't accept the invite. That I organise a meeting with girl #1 (posted below). It wasn't until mid-May that she accepted an invite.

    Background to the girl:

    We met in Paris on worldcup final night (it was funny that I even booked it that night, as Thursday night was her night off, and Friday, her agent didn't reply to me). I only lost about 1 hour of celebration, and then had 5 hours of observing the mayhem on the streets of Paris. It wasn't until 2nd Paris meeting, that I said she should tell me when she's in Paris next time. Only then she gave me her number. It took me until early March 2019 to offer her an invite. So 2. 5 months of somehow patiently waiting. She's not a travel-girl-to-client, but rather travel-to-various countries that interests her type girl. I only converted her for a once-off travel invite.

    In terms of travelling to various countries, I think she started April 2018.

    * France, Paris, 3 times, around 2 weeks each (April, July, Sep / Oct 2018).

    * Czech rep, Prague (unknown if working), a few days, May 2018.

    * Italy, Milan (unknown if working), 1 day, May 2018.

    * Italy, Rome (unknown duration), June 2018.

    * Italy tour, from Napoli to Turin, via Padua (18 days). Oct / Nov 2018. She told me she was travelling with her family, But I found a review of her on an Italian forum that proves her story was wrong.

    * Greece, Athens (unknown if she went, as she had no passport stamp, or I must have missed a passport page). Jan 2019.

    * UK, London (3.5 weeks). Feb 2019.

    * Italy, Rome (1 week, until becoming sick, according to her message to me). Feb / Mar 2019.

    * UK, London (unknown length of time, different agency so cannot correlate dates, I'm guessing another 3 weeks). Mar / Apr 2019.

    * Spain, Madrid. Jul 2019.

    One of her fake stories is that she said she was living in London in the winter, as the weather was warmer (closer to 20 C). But I think she confused herself with the temperature of maybe Greece and Rome more than anything else. She also said she spent her birthday in London, when in fact she was in Rome. She said she also lives in Moscow, when she is not needed to be in Kiev. Out of the times she was in Moscow, she was only ever there 5 days maximum, 3 times between March and May 2019. SOmehow she is studying, but it's hard to see her achieve that if she only had time in May (for tests) and exams in June. Like it was only a 10 week "course" per semester? Perhaps it's true, but it was hard believing her. It was just endless amounts of story bullcrapping.

    I will describe the negatives, as they overruled the positives:

    * She didn't have much sleep the night before, so by the end of the first night, she dropped dead asleep by 22 h30, and slept for 12 hours. At least girl #1 stayed up until 1 h30 the first night, even though she was tired too from the earlier morning flight. In other words, she didn't put out as much as girl #1.

    * Come next morning, we woke up, and she gave me a kiss. But I decided to return DFK to her. After a few seconds she was like " That was unexpected" in a friendly way. This is after having free-for-all DFK in Paris. Yet here she pushed back after a few seconds.

    * we went to Bachmann in Luzern to get some chocolates. I told her I will pay. It wasn't until she saw the total price that she freaked out. I told her don't worry. I don't know if this was a trigger point / idea for the next day.

    * Showed her Zurich. Went to some store, she got some really expensive lipstick, and I was like "hrmmm.".5 minutes later, Out of nowhere she says to me: "I know this is a difficult question but how much money can you spend? I laughed it off, but it didn't stop her from making a suggestion to go to the Gucci store. So we went. This was a big mistake for me to continue walking with her. We went. Then she asked how much are the bags. Response: "ohh, the ones over there are between X and why". So we go over there but still no price tags. She was confused as to what to do as there were no prices, and I would have just laughed at her in front of everyone, so she gave up. We went to H&M instead. She selected a couple of items that ended up costing 100 EUR. But it was strange seeing her aggressively grabbing the items. It was a bizarre sight.

    * Come evening time, I invited her to a work party organised by a friend. This was the biggest mistake of the weekend. I won't describe it, as further information will not help, apart from: do not ever invite a girl to a work bbq party.

    * Sunday night, she said she has to have a facetime call with her mother to lie where she is (she said she does it all the time). So she said she's going to some restaurant to have the call for 30 minutes. Come the 1. 5 hour mark, I go to the supposed restaurant where she was at, and they told me she wasn't here at all. Eventually she responds to my whatsapp message, saying she's at another named restaurant, in a totally different direction, which ended up not being the one. Eventually she did come home, after getting lost. I was mildly angry at her, and it probably put her off. So come bed time, she spends like 20-30 minutes on the phone messaging people, when we only have 5 hours of sleep to have before needing to wake up for the early flight.

    * Come morning time, long story short, I tried to give her a kiss and she was very hesitant in an angry way. Probably it was lack of sleep, but regardless, she was in a pissed-off state. And it continued until I last saw her go past security. I tried to give her a swiss kiss, but she was angry at me for disturbing her hair. I told her I want to see her again, but she said to talk later. She didn't say goodbye or anything, and just left through security without looking, or waving back.

    Photos attached. Unfortunately since our last meeting, she appeared to have gained a little bit of more fat. And from the other photos which were taken by her. Most likely more than 1 year ago, she was in a fitter state. Not that is bad, but it's disappointing to see girls gain weight.
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  3. #1066

    Ukrainian Weekends

    I have met with quite a few Ukrainian girls for weekends all over Europe.

    One of my personal conditions was always to have her IG before. If she is reluctant to give it it is a warning sign she may be restrained also in the meeting. Also an IG profile can be read like a character analysis: you learn many things about the person (mostly by conjecture).

    A meeting of this kind will always be a bargain of sorts. It is important to find girls who do it for the money, but not just for the money. They should still be impressionable, and ideally really appreciate the invitation. There are many others who just want to cash in and get out of it with as little commitment as possible (they will also nag you for extra shopping until the last moment before you drop them at airport security).

    Part of the excitement of such meetings is the art of selection. I never went for said girl for several reasons, but the Swiss story beneath tells me: I was right (other guys may still have great fun with her).

  4. #1065
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    No offense but maybe she sensed that you may have started to obsess a bit about her?

    P.S. She also has 4000+ followers on IG, so she will also get direct invitations there. SA certainly is not the only channel.
    That would explain her awesome (whatsapp) photos. I even took a few for her, although I can only remember a total of 4, one of which was subpar quality. I wonder if they are on Instagram.

    What's funny / sad is that I've fucked her multiple times, but there's 4 K+ followers (minus maybe 50?) who have not and I do not know her Instagram profile / SA profile / any other profile.

    She's given me indirect permission for you to say what's her profile. Any hint? (eg: real ukr name? Shortened anglo'd name? Nickname? Little woman?) She does not want to say it herself.

    Her comments:

    1) "so why you don't ask people where they see me?

    2) "ask people who said that they see me".

  5. #1064
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    What is your opinion of KEC service quality, since a year ago GIA has been busted and then resurrected under new management?

    I myself worked out more affordable approach with flexible sources, grinding through known agencies and keeping a trusted circle of regulars.

    There's a feeling that KEC dispatchers for the last year became considerably worse after the flip from GIA.

    What about the KEC girls themselves nowadays? I had 8 beauties so far. 3 of them we not bad, but I would not repeat. 5 were outstanding every time I met them.
    Yes, Kristina (gia dispatcher) was much friendlier than the ahole man who works there now.

    May I ask what known agencies do you use? I thought all except gia used fake photos.

  6. #1063
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkski  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. I didn't think it was that obvious but then again, if it was not internationally obvious, it would be impossible to get clients. I wonder why she wasn't proactive about her services, even though she gave me her number back in March 2018.

    Is her profile currently inactive? Or not available via search? Do you have a screenshot? Do you remember her nickname / alias? Do you remember her join date? Do you remember anything of the photo? I may have captured it from whatsapp, if she re-uses photos, so I can attach it here, so you can confirm.

    She did say one thing before the "end" of our last /2nd travel meeting: she wanted to visit Lisbon or Porto. I'm a bit surprised. Because that means SA customers mainly do "travel to me" things, considering the total cost of the adventure, heh. But to visit the same country multiple times, yet refuse to visit me again in Switzerland?
    No offense but maybe she sensed that you may have started to obsess a bit about her?

    P.S. She also has 4000+ followers on IG, so she will also get direct invitations there. SA certainly is not the only channel.

  7. #1062
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    SA is the sugardaddy website Seeking Arrangement.

    I also know her profile from there, she will get most of her travel invitations via SA.
    Thanks for the info. I didn't think it was that obvious but then again, if it was not internationally obvious, it would be impossible to get clients. I wonder why she wasn't proactive about her services, even though she gave me her number back in March 2018.

    Is her profile currently inactive? Or not available via search? Do you have a screenshot? Do you remember her nickname / alias? Do you remember her join date? Do you remember anything of the photo? I may have captured it from whatsapp, if she re-uses photos, so I can attach it here, so you can confirm.

    She did say one thing before the "end" of our last /2nd travel meeting: she wanted to visit Lisbon or Porto. I'm a bit surprised. Because that means SA customers mainly do "travel to me" things, considering the total cost of the adventure, heh. But to visit the same country multiple times, yet refuse to visit me again in Switzerland?

  8. #1061

    Seeking Arrangement

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkski  [View Original Post]
    Could you tell me what is SA? Is she independent or via agent?
    SA is the sugardaddy website Seeking Arrangement.

    I also know her profile from there, she will get most of her travel invitations via SA.

  9. #1060

    Andrei

    Andrei, my favorite Kiev agent is back. He left for few months to work in CZ. PM me if you want his phone number. I also took a break from this forum for a few months but I am checking regularly now. Hope to be back in Kiev soon. Have fun and be safe.

  10. #1059
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Very innovative way to promote a girl, kudos to you both.
    I didn't mean to promote her. My goal was to find out if someone has seen her before, and which websites she's on.

  11. #1058
    Very innovative way to promote a girl, kudos to you both.

  12. #1057
    Quote Originally Posted by A158  [View Original Post]
    Very nice report, wow, you have some history with this girl and she is very pretty. Not my business, bu I have a burning question. Why do you stick to her and put up with the attitude and cost when there are 100's of other girls equally of value that you can have for much less hassle. ?
    Because she was super awesome the first time around, and that she is has an unbelievable body. And I enjoy chasing an impossible girl, even if that meant emotional abuse from her. Unfortunately, I persisted until she made a big mistake (missed her flight return flight) which pretty much ended any more meetings.

    Where may I find a travel girl like her? I've tried looking, but the quality is lower and more expensive than this girl (lets give her a nickname "zhenechka") but I am sure I am looking at the wrong places.

  13. #1056
    Quote Originally Posted by Walky23  [View Original Post]
    Nice report. I have seen this girl on SA and had communication with her. She seems very eager to travel.
    Could you tell me what is SA? Is she independent or via agent?

  14. #1055

    Impressive investigative report

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkski  [View Original Post]
    In March 2018, I met a Kiev escort girl outside of Ukraine. After our first meeting, I told her I wanted to meet again, and she freely gave me her number, saying not to tell agent. We did meet again in May 2018 (it was funny I sent her a message 1 day before her intended travel to the same city we met) and I had to take a "detour" on my holiday that weekend, which I did have a spare day, which was an expensive rtain trip, compared to the original plane trip. Unfortunately, it took me 7 months to even ask if she travels to clients, and a further 2 months for us to eventually confirm a travel invitation (Jan-Mar was not a good time for an invite). At the time, I did not know she was a travel girl. It was awesome that she did eventually visit, even though she said she was more impressed / surprised she boarded the plane (I don't know why she said that, when she's a travelgirl, and we met before). Long story short, she expected too much (more like a BFE from her side, than a GFE from my side) from our first meeting in the same town as I live in, that I thought it was totally doomed for a next meeting. Honestly, it was my fault, as 1) the weather was shit (early April), and 2) I didn't know she wanted to visit the main city, which unfortunately for a german'ish country, most things are closed on a Sunday.

    Fortunately, I asked if we could meet again 6 weeks later, which I then proposed a city that no girl would refuse. Venice. Weirdly enough, she never been there. This was another 3 day meeting. Which went better than expected, but still the same shit. She eventually became snarky, just like the first time. By the end of it, she was send messages via her agent with her next potential custerom (greek, according to the glimpse of the photo on her phone).

    In terms of quality. She is a 10/10 for her petite body. Personality wise was something else.

    I know this year (in 4 months), according to her passport, she's been to the following (excluding my invites):

    * Istanbul, Turkey (2 nights).

    * Bucharest, Romania (3 nights).

    * Paris, France (2 nights).

    * Bali (2 weeks, multiple hotels according to her, some fuck holiday?

    * Istanbul #2, Turkey (1 night).

    * Munich then Frankfurt, Germany (3 nights).

    * Athens, Greece (1 night).

    * Barcelona, Spain (3 nights).

    * Athens #2, Greece (2 nights).

    * Istanbul #3, Turkey (1 night?

    * Munich #2, Germany (2 nights).

    So my question is this: Would it ever be possible to find this girl's agency?

    I did ask her, and she said she has no agency / website. I challenged her why she travelled 10 times this year, and she went spastic at me: "Why 10? Why not 25? Crazy face " Then I sent a page out of her passport with her visiting Munich / Frankfurt just before visiting me, and she didn't reply after that. I still have her "work" and personal phone number (she uses her personal number to message via agent), but since the end of the second meeting was a disaster on her part, I don't think she would ever meet me again. She eventually admitted to me that she found a BF a few weeks ago, and that she is now happy. She did mention she will move in with him, whether it lasts a few months or longer term, she does not know. (which kinda explained why she seemed semi-unhappy before our second rendevouz). Or it could be a ploy to make me not send messages to her again.

    Photos attached. Photo of her sleeping in two of our meetings, plus the swimsuit I gave her, that she was impressed with (the video was made post-meeting, and was the final few images before she stopped posting them via whatsapp profile photo / status).
    Bkski.

    Very nice report, wow, you have some history with this girl and she is very pretty. Not my business, bu I have a burning question. Why do you stick to her and put up with the attitude and cost when there are 100's of other girls equally of value that you can have for much less hassle. ?

    Cheers.

    A158.

  15. #1054
    Nice report. I have seen this girl on SA and had communication with her. She seems very eager to travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkski  [View Original Post]
    In March 2018, I met a Kiev escort girl outside of Ukraine. After our first meeting, I told her I wanted to meet again, and she freely gave me her number, saying not to tell agent. We did meet again in May 2018 (it was funny I sent her a message 1 day before her intended travel to the same city we met) and I had to take a "detour" on my holiday that weekend, which I did have a spare day, which was an expensive rtain trip, compared to the original plane trip. Unfortunately, it took me 7 months to even ask if she travels to clients, and a further 2 months for us to eventually confirm a travel invitation (Jan-Mar was not a good time for an invite). At the time, I did not know she was a travel girl. It was awesome that she did eventually visit, even though she said she was more impressed / surprised she boarded the plane (I don't know why she said that, when she's a travelgirl, and we met before). Long story short, she expected too much (more like a BFE from her side, than a GFE from my side) from our first meeting in the same town as I live in, that I thought it was totally doomed for a next meeting. Honestly, it was my fault, as 1) the weather was shit (early April), and 2) I didn't know she wanted to visit the main city, which unfortunately for a german'ish country, most things are closed on a Sunday.

    Fortunately, I asked if we could meet again 6 weeks later, which I then proposed a city that no girl would refuse. Venice. Weirdly enough, she never been there. This was another 3 day meeting. Which went better than expected, but still the same shit. She eventually became snarky, just like the first time. By the end of it, she was send messages via her agent with her next potential custerom (greek, according to the glimpse of the photo on her phone).

    In terms of quality. She is a 10/10 for her petite body. Personality wise was something else.

    I know this year (in 4 months), according to her passport, she's been to the following (excluding my invites):

    * Istanbul, Turkey (2 nights).

    * Bucharest, Romania (3 nights)..

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