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  1. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    exclusive closed agencies, or indies not advertising on web, but available via Viber and such.
    In March 2018, I met a Kiev escort girl outside of Ukraine. After our first meeting, I told her I wanted to meet again, and she freely gave me her number, saying not to tell agent. We did meet again in May 2018 (it was funny I sent her a message 1 day before her intended travel to the same city we met) and I had to take a "detour" on my holiday that weekend, which I did have a spare day, which was an expensive rtain trip, compared to the original plane trip. Unfortunately, it took me 7 months to even ask if she travels to clients, and a further 2 months for us to eventually confirm a travel invitation (Jan-Mar was not a good time for an invite). At the time, I did not know she was a travel girl. It was awesome that she did eventually visit, even though she said she was more impressed / surprised she boarded the plane (I don't know why she said that, when she's a travelgirl, and we met before). Long story short, she expected too much (more like a BFE from her side, than a GFE from my side) from our first meeting in the same town as I live in, that I thought it was totally doomed for a next meeting. Honestly, it was my fault, as 1) the weather was shit (early April), and 2) I didn't know she wanted to visit the main city, which unfortunately for a german'ish country, most things are closed on a Sunday.

    Fortunately, I asked if we could meet again 6 weeks later, which I then proposed a city that no girl would refuse. Venice. Weirdly enough, she never been there. This was another 3 day meeting. Which went better than expected, but still the same shit. She eventually became snarky, just like the first time. By the end of it, she was send messages via her agent with her next potential custerom (greek, according to the glimpse of the photo on her phone).

    In terms of quality. She is a 10/10 for her petite body. Personality wise was something else.

    I know this year (in 4 months), according to her passport, she's been to the following (excluding my invites):

    * Istanbul, Turkey (2 nights).

    * Bucharest, Romania (3 nights).

    * Paris, France (2 nights).

    * Bali (2 weeks, multiple hotels according to her, some fuck holiday?

    * Istanbul #2, Turkey (1 night).

    * Munich then Frankfurt, Germany (3 nights).

    * Athens, Greece (1 night).

    * Barcelona, Spain (3 nights).

    * Athens #2, Greece (2 nights).

    * Istanbul #3, Turkey (1 night?

    * Munich #2, Germany (2 nights).

    So my question is this: Would it ever be possible to find this girl's agency?

    I did ask her, and she said she has no agency / website. I challenged her why she travelled 10 times this year, and she went spastic at me: "Why 10? Why not 25? Crazy face " Then I sent a page out of her passport with her visiting Munich / Frankfurt just before visiting me, and she didn't reply after that. I still have her "work" and personal phone number (she uses her personal number to message via agent), but since the end of the second meeting was a disaster on her part, I don't think she would ever meet me again. She eventually admitted to me that she found a BF a few weeks ago, and that she is now happy. She did mention she will move in with him, whether it lasts a few months or longer term, she does not know. (which kinda explained why she seemed semi-unhappy before our second rendevouz). Or it could be a ploy to make me not send messages to her again.

    Photos attached. Photo of her sleeping in two of our meetings, plus the swimsuit I gave her, that she was impressed with (the video was made post-meeting, and was the final few images before she stopped posting them via whatsapp profile photo / status).
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  2. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan7  [View Original Post]
    Their prices are much higher now then before, sometimes I see them have average looking girls, no BBJ for $300, terrible, I can get better looking girls for better price where I am.

    They photoshop photos, so if you use them its better to make it no more than 1 hour appointment for the 1st meeting.
    Complete Rip Off.

  3. #1051
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan7  [View Original Post]
    Their prices are much higher now then before, sometimes I see them have average looking girls, no BBJ for $300, terrible, I can get better looking girls for better price where I am.
    And the result is obvious: no more reports on KEC girls on this Forum, while GIA has been reviewed regularly.

    Fewer customers means that free market eventually reorganizes the structure of service providers. Valuable KEC ladies, even those residing in Ukraine, and not traveling much, find income elsewhere. Mamba, Tinder, exclusive closed agencies, or indies not advertising on web, but available via Viber and such.

    KEC became one of many rip-offs, not representing anything of much interest. It took less than a year for a great agency to disappear into oblivion. There are still great girls there, but success rate and satisfaction level used to be significantly higher.

  4. #1050
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    What is your opinion of KEC service quality, since a year ago GIA has been busted and then resurrected under new management?

    I myself worked out more affordable approach with flexible sources, grinding through known agencies and keeping a trusted circle of regulars.

    There's a feeling that KEC dispatchers for the last year became considerably worse after the flip from GIA.

    What about the KEC girls themselves nowadays? I had 8 beauties so far. 3 of them we not bad, but I would not repeat. 5 were outstanding every time I met them.
    Their prices are much higher now then before, sometimes I see them have average looking girls, no BBJ for $300, terrible, I can get better looking girls for better price where I am.

    They photoshop photos, so if you use them its better to make it no more than 1 hour appointment for the 1st meeting.

  5. #1049
    Anyone want to swap Mamba contacts? I usually just like to see a girl once and take some numbers. PM me. Prefer 18-24 yo and natural looking.

  6. #1048
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomster99  [View Original Post]
    I can only second this statement. Same experience.

    If I am in lack of time and want to have a level of quality certainty of getting laid, I often turn to KEC / GIA.

    However: if you have some time and you want to experience more of a GF feeling, with non-pro BJ etc, but on the other hand somehow more exciting route. Use Mamba. But this means you need to invest time and will sometimes also be disappointed.

    Just a bit more like if you pick up a girl on your vacation in a Disco.

    Cheap agencies however were always a crapy experience for me: the photos were usually not only photoshopped, but rather completly other girls they found on the web that they send you.

    Once I showed up most girls were only in the 3-4 range. And this is not what I want to pay for. One time I even had the feeling most of them looked sick. I turned around and went my way out.
    Great report, to do a great job of capturing both the good and bad of Kiev.

  7. #1047
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomster99  [View Original Post]
    I can only second this statement. Same experience.

    If I am in lack of time and want to have a level of quality certainty of getting laid, I often turn to KEC / GIA.
    What is your opinion of KEC service quality, since a year ago GIA has been busted and then resurrected under new management?

    I myself worked out more affordable approach with flexible sources, grinding through known agencies and keeping a trusted circle of regulars.

    There's a feeling that KEC dispatchers for the last year became considerably worse after the flip from GIA.

    What about the KEC girls themselves nowadays? I had 8 beauties so far. 3 of them we not bad, but I would not repeat. 5 were outstanding every time I met them.

  8. #1046
    I can only second this statement. Same experience.

    If I am in lack of time and want to have a level of quality certainty of getting laid, I often turn to KEC / GIA.

    However: if you have some time and you want to experience more of a GF feeling, with non-pro BJ etc, but on the other hand somehow more exciting route. Use Mamba. But this means you need to invest time and will sometimes also be disappointed.

    Just a bit more like if you pick up a girl on your vacation in a Disco.

    Cheap agencies however were always a crapy experience for me: the photos were usually not only photoshopped, but rather completly other girls they found on the web that they send you.

    Once I showed up most girls were only in the 3-4 range. And this is not what I want to pay for. One time I even had the feeling most of them looked sick. I turned around and went my way out.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    When confronted with 20 years old girls having 4 years old feedback, VC management states that girls do not want to post their real age for privacy reasons.

    The usual VC / KEC / GIA spinning bullshit.

    There are good girls there. Very expensive though. It is only worthwhile when money is not an issue, or time is of essence during short visit, or previous date has been canceled, and badly need a new somewhat reliable girl.

    On average 80% of GIA girls that I ordered in the past were great. About 60% of them I met later on again. 40% - I am still in contact with. That is significantly better than grinding through the cheaper agencies in search for a keeper.

  9. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    People should only use VC as a last resort. Their photos are real, but often 2-4 years old. One of the girls claiming to be 20 have reviews 4 years old. Of course there are some good ones in there. Maya just looked too hot for me to pass up last September and I met her. She is 21. I think the site says 18-19, but was still hot.
    When confronted with 20 years old girls having 4 years old feedback, VC management states that girls do not want to post their real age for privacy reasons.

    The usual VC / KEC / GIA spinning bullshit.

    There are good girls there. Very expensive though. It is only worthwhile when money is not an issue, or time is of essence during short visit, or previous date has been canceled, and badly need a new somewhat reliable girl.

    On average 80% of GIA girls that I ordered in the past were great. About 60% of them I met later on again. 40% - I am still in contact with. That is significantly better than grinding through the cheaper agencies in search for a keeper.

  10. #1044
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    People should only use VC as a last resort. Their photos are real, but often 2-4 years old. One of the girls claiming to be 20 have reviews 4 years old. Of course there are some good ones in there. Maya just looked too hot for me to pass up last September and I met her. She is 21. I think the site says 18-19, but was still hot.
    I was only in town briefly and didn't want to spend much energy finding company. For this, I found it worked well and thought that was worthy of a report. As for girls not being the age they claim to be. That seems almost universal. Perhaps they're more honest on dating apps? Even then I find dating apps to be tiring.

  11. #1043
    Quote Originally Posted by TinyHippo  [View Original Post]
    Haha. That is my thoughts too. It is mostly guys just patting themselves on the back with stories and lies.
    I can't say if they're "lies" but yeah it's like same 4-5 guys commenting on each others posts. Feels like noone else doing mongering in Kiev or not bothered about this forum.

  12. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by BreezyHome  [View Original Post]
    I just noticed that the agency name was omitted from my post. The website was escort. Vc and it has been mentioned many times in this forum as GIA or KEC.
    People should only use VC as a last resort. Their photos are real, but often 2-4 years old. One of the girls claiming to be 20 have reviews 4 years old. Of course there are some good ones in there. Maya just looked too hot for me to pass up last September and I met her. She is 21. I think the site says 18-19, but was still hot.

  13. #1041
    Quote Originally Posted by BreezyHome  [View Original Post]
    The other Kiev thread seems to be a bunch of people writing short stories to each other. I'll just leave a note here that I contacted while I was there without any issue. Booking was straightforward in English. Girl arrived, she matched the photos, and I had a good session. I'll probably repeat next time I visit.
    I just noticed that the agency name was omitted from my post. The website was escort. Vc and it has been mentioned many times in this forum as GIA or KEC.

  14. #1040
    Quote Originally Posted by BreezyHome  [View Original Post]
    The other Kiev thread seems to be a bunch of people writing short stories to each other. I'll just leave a note here that I contacted while I was there without any issue. Booking was straightforward in English. Girl arrived, she matched the photos, and I had a good session. I'll probably repeat next time I visit.
    Haha. That is my thoughts too. It is mostly guys just patting themselves on the back with stories and lies.

  15. #1039
    The other Kiev thread seems to be a bunch of people writing short stories to each other. I'll just leave a note here that I contacted while I was there without any issue. Booking was straightforward in English. Girl arrived, she matched the photos, and I had a good session. I'll probably repeat next time I visit.

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