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  1. #348

    About them hookers...

    Fox, I think the 1929 Crash was a direct result of the deregulation of the then stock market and people thinking what was basically a Ponzi scheme wouldn't implode.

    Now, I can shed some light on the River Palace scene and you are right, the underlying reason is that the girls simply aren't as 'desperate' as they used to be. Right up until 2005 you would see happy couples leaving RP at a brisk rate for $100-$200/night. Now more Ukrainian men can (temporarily) afford their services or give some of the semi pro's the kind of life where they don't need to sell themselves (to many men).

  2. #347

    Believe it.......

    The 1929 'crash' was DELIBERATE with the intention of removing the gold standard once and for all; to be replaced by the 'Fiat money' system. Tons of stuff on YouTube about this.

    Back to the hookers.......especially those with big tits!



    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser D
    Ash, I'm way beyond you. The fact that it's about 'winners and losers' shows where your mindset is. Trickle down economics - now I'm really having my doubts about you. An unregulated market and legal financial 'scams' is what lead us to the point we are at now and in 1929. Hence my comments about parasites – both political and financial. The only hope the world has of avoiding another great depression is if the US Government bails out failing and failed financial institutions. People like you bray on and on about the evils of socialism holding capitalism as your shining light and Holy Grail. But isn't this case in point of failed capitalism and socialism coming to save the day? Idiots in the US for the last ten years or so went on and on about how Social Security should be privatized – a super 401k put in the ‘stock market’. What these idiots fail to realize is that the Social Security program in the US came about because the stock market failed in 1929. No chances of something like that happening again, eh? Of course I shouldn’t call all these people idiots. Some are just the above mentioned parasites looking to feed on something like the privatization of the US Social Security system.

    Trickle down economics Bubba? It’s time to start sharpening the blade on the Guillotine, that's the ultimate result of trickle down economics.

    Scientific and social progression is much more important then economic progression in any 'advanced' society. I'd like to advance, obviously you are more interested in brightly colored stones and shiny metal.

    Back to hookers...

  3. #346

    Interesting, but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    Either they're good at marketing or we're poor at negotiating. I don't know which predominates. The fact that most RP girls would rather go home with nothing than make half or two thirds of their asking price suggests they know less than Mr Dick H. Fuld about economics.

    Capitalism is certainly 'trickle down' in the sense that the richest 10% getting richer will do more discretionary spending which will boost the incomes of people lower down. However when it comes to *investing* people at the bottom make mistakes and believe lies that lead to their capital flowing towards the smarter people at the top. These are both good things and should NOT be 'regulated'.


    Why spread yer legs for half, when a day or two later she will probably get lucky and get 'full' price? This seems to be how they usually think, unless desperate for the money.

  4. #345
    Yes, you are right, this is the problem but what about its solution? Do we leave beginner mongers inflationating girls' prices? What is your advise to solve this huge problem in Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    Either they're good at marketing or we're poor at negotiating. I don't know which predominates. The fact that most RP girls would rather go home with nothing than make half or two thirds of their asking price suggests they know less than Mr Dick H. Fuld about economics.

    Capitalism is certainly 'trickle down' in the sense that the richest 10% getting richer will do more discretionary spending which will boost the incomes of people lower down. However when it comes to *investing* people at the bottom make mistakes and believe lies that lead to their capital flowing towards the smarter people at the top. These are both good things and should NOT be 'regulated'.

  5. #344
    Ash, I'm way beyond you. The fact that it's about 'winners and losers' shows where your mindset is. Trickle down economics - now I'm really having my doubts about you. An unregulated market and legal financial 'scams' is what lead us to the point we are at now and in 1929. Hence my comments about parasites – both political and financial. The only hope the world has of avoiding another great depression is if the US Government bails out failing and failed financial institutions. People like you bray on and on about the evils of socialism holding capitalism as your shining light and Holy Grail. But isn't this case in point of failed capitalism and socialism coming to save the day? Idiots in the US for the last ten years or so went on and on about how Social Security should be privatized – a super 401k put in the ‘stock market’. What these idiots fail to realize is that the Social Security program in the US came about because the stock market failed in 1929. No chances of something like that happening again, eh? Of course I shouldn’t call all these people idiots. Some are just the above mentioned parasites looking to feed on something like the privatization of the US Social Security system.

    Trickle down economics Bubba? It’s time to start sharpening the blade on the Guillotine, that's the ultimate result of trickle down economics.

    Scientific and social progression is much more important then economic progression in any 'advanced' society. I'd like to advance, obviously you are more interested in brightly colored stones and shiny metal.

    Back to hookers...

  6. #343
    Either they're good at marketing or we're poor at negotiating. I don't know which predominates. The fact that most RP girls would rather go home with nothing than make half or two thirds of their asking price suggests they know less than Mr Dick H. Fuld about economics.

    Capitalism is certainly 'trickle down' in the sense that the richest 10% getting richer will do more discretionary spending which will boost the incomes of people lower down. However when it comes to *investing* people at the bottom make mistakes and believe lies that lead to their capital flowing towards the smarter people at the top. These are both good things and should NOT be 'regulated'.

  7. #342

    I like the way.......

    You say 'transfer wealth UP the pyramid'

    I thought it was supposed to 'trickle down'

    Anyway, the girls in Ukraine are generally very good at marketing and get top dollar or over what their worth. Good for them.






    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    The paradox with regulation is that the market losers cry for more of it (blaming a lack of it for their losses) and the winners just don't want to know. I suggest shareholders regulate their own stockholdings by occasionally asking "does this company employ people that have some idea what the fuck they're doing?"

    Interestingly, in a country like Ukraine where the common man actually expects his government to screw him rather than protect him, we see the same old thing. The more credit that's available, the more it gets snapped up.

    Capitalism is a natural mechanism for transferring wealth up the pyramid, BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE A PART OF IT. Go figure.

    Thank God the hookers in Ukraine aren't regulated, eh? Let's see if minimum wage applies in the next few months

  8. #341
    The paradox with regulation is that the market losers cry for more of it (blaming a lack of it for their losses) and the winners just don't want to know. I suggest shareholders regulate their own stockholdings by occasionally asking "does this company employ people that have some idea what the fuck they're doing?"

    Interestingly, in a country like Ukraine where the common man actually expects his government to screw him rather than protect him, we see the same old thing. The more credit that's available, the more it gets snapped up.

    Capitalism is a natural mechanism for transferring wealth up the pyramid, BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE A PART OF IT. Go figure.

    Thank God the hookers in Ukraine aren't regulated, eh? Let's see if minimum wage applies in the next few months

  9. #340

    Agree ASh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    Unfortunately there is no 'other way of doing business'. If you think people who make money from financial transactions are 'parasites' because they're not doing honest, 'real' work like building bridges, planes or choo choo trains then you're no different from the sort of socialist that's become all too prevalent on both sides of the Atlantic. Increase regulations and restrict business and it will move to Switzerland, Dubai or even Mumbai and take its tax revenues with it. You need financial markets more than they need you.

    Foxy, glad you mentioned hookers, as they know all about servicing demand, free market prices, and working for themselves as self employed business people. Somewhat like cabbies, I daresay.


    Capitalism is probably the least worst option, but just needs some refining/ better regulation? As I said to CD I read that only 2 people in Barclays understood one of the 'derivatives' that they lost a shit load of money on. Hardly surprising then! A few people made a shed load and now 1,000's suffer this cannot be a good thing. If so, Dubai or where ever is welcome to it, as it can only get worse with weaker regulation.

    Anyway.......about those hookers!

  10. #339
    Unfortunately there is no 'other way of doing business'. If you think people who make money from financial transactions are 'parasites' because they're not doing honest, 'real' work like building bridges, planes or choo choo trains then you're no different from the sort of socialist that's become all too prevalent on both sides of the Atlantic. Increase regulations and restrict business and it will move to Switzerland, Dubai or even Mumbai and take its tax revenues with it. You need financial markets more than they need you.

    Foxy, glad you mentioned hookers, as they know all about servicing demand, free market prices, and working for themselves as self employed business people. Somewhat like cabbies, I daresay.

  11. #338

    Agree.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser D
    People make money, increase their net worth doing nothing productive, by being nothing but parasites. Like I said, it's time to move to another model of doing business. If you disagree one really has to wonder where your intellect is.


    The old business model seems dead. We need a new system. I read that in Barclays Bank only 2 people understood one of the 'derivatives' they lost a shit load on recently. Hardly surprising then!

    You should watch a couple of videos on YouTube about the scam behind the fed and so called 'fractional reserve banking' which has resulted in 300m debt slaves. (American national debt has doubled in only a couple of months to 5 or 6 trillion I believe: Good luck!)

    Anyway.......back to the hookers!

  12. #337
    People make money, increase their net worth doing nothing productive, by being nothing but parasites. Like I said, it's time to move to another model of doing business. If you disagree one really has to wonder where your intellect is.

  13. #336
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser D
    It's time we moved on to another model
    What, like communism? One more for you, Obama

  14. #335

    We should be here to talk about mongering?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser D
    Not to continue this thread...but...







    Is there a bank in the Ukraine still owned by Ukrainians or Russians?

    Poor Europeans, first Fortis, now this.

    Looks like the American government just bought Wall Street - if only...

    The finance markets as they stand have never been nothing more then a shell game. It's time we moved on to another model. I'm sure Banker24 will slap me hard when we meet again - that is if he still reads this forum.

    All you finance guys start humming a few bars of 'it's the end of the world as I know it and I feel fine'.


    On to more practical matters.

    Ah B, I just saw your message...it got snuck in between us senior posters.

    No, pizza is not a delicately (let me refer you to my classic posting 'the 750uah pizza'), from what I could see in the Ukraine. Although I met this girl from Zaporizhzhya with her father (don't ask), went out for pizza and it was the first time the old man had seen such a thing. He was suitably impressed and I think upset when I didn't marry his daughter. This was 3 years ago. I'm sure they have quite a few pizza places in Zap now, but I'm also sure the 40+ set aren't going to them.

    The only junk food place you spotted in Kyiv was McDonalds??? Do you want around the city with your eyes closed? Mr Snack, Potato House, all the Ukrainian cafeterias and I'm sure dozens and dozens of place I know nothing about. My favorite food joke in the Ukraine is, 'would you like some fat sauce on top of your fried fat?' And actually quite a few places do home delivery. Not that I ever partaken in it. Home delivery for me is calling a girl and asking her to come over with some food.


    Although it does not matter as CD usually has something interesting too say. Current 'crisis' is deliberate? Bush was trying not to laugh at the recent press conferences. Try youtube and look at some videos on the central (Fed) Bank scam, which is an eye opener to put it mildly! 'Debt slaves' just became even more enslaved as US national debt just doubled in a couple of weeks! It will also continue to get worse. 5 trillion USD and counting.

    This stuff is a good alternative to thinking about the mother in law when on the 'vinegar strokes!' Works for me anyway.

    Fox7717

  15. #334
    Not to continue this thread...but...

    Is there a bank in the Ukraine still owned by Ukrainians or Russians?

    Poor Europeans, first Fortis, now this.

    Looks like the American government just bought Wall Street - if only...

    The finance markets as they stand have never been nothing more then a shell game. It's time we moved on to another model. I'm sure Banker24 will slap me hard when we meet again - that is if he still reads this forum.

    All you finance guys start humming a few bars of 'it's the end of the world as I know it and I feel fine'.


    On to more practical matters.

    Ah B, I just saw your message...it got snuck in between us senior posters.

    No, pizza is not a delicately (let me refer you to my classic posting 'the 750uah pizza'), from what I could see in the Ukraine. Although I met this girl from Zaporizhzhya with her father (don't ask), went out for pizza and it was the first time the old man had seen such a thing. He was suitably impressed and I think upset when I didn't marry his daughter. This was 3 years ago. I'm sure they have quite a few pizza places in Zap now, but I'm also sure the 40+ set aren't going to them.

    The only junk food place you spotted in Kyiv was McDonalds??? Do you want around the city with your eyes closed? Mr Snack, Potato House, all the Ukrainian cafeterias and I'm sure dozens and dozens of place I know nothing about. My favorite food joke in the Ukraine is, 'would you like some fat sauce on top of your fried fat?' And actually quite a few places do home delivery. Not that I ever partaken in it. Home delivery for me is calling a girl and asking her to come over with some food.

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