Thailand Politics

[LaoMan]

Are you a Thakisn Jodler? Allways the same fairytale. If you are so clever you should know, how Thaksin get the votes.

What is a Jodler? I suspect English is not your first language. Have you looked up Giles Ugnaporn or are you still posting without knowing anything?

[Raju 1974]

As per todays news, A turkish person believed to be the bomber has been arrested with materials to make bomb. More details awaited.

[Beno69]

Really! Lets hold an election then, shall we? Whoops, I forgot, the self appointed PM is too scared because he would get demolished yet again in the result...

Are you a Thakisn Jodler? Allways the same fairytale. If you are so clever you should know, how Thaksin get the votes.

[Beno69]

..The bombing was evidently not a redshirt activity. The pix of the guy don't even LOOK THAI. I'm going back for another month in October....

I don't speak from the Erawan Bombing. I speak from all Bombings before: 2010 and 2014. Mostly Red Shirts bombing around and killing innocent People. Nice Democracy.

Some names: Koo Tee and even Jatuporn and Thida with the big WarDrum Festival and building a parallel Army.

[Beno69]

Benno,

Before you start a discussion with me, I suggest you do a couple of things. Do some reading so that you are talking from a base of knowledge and not just a pile of nonsense...

Thanks, Professor LaoMan. 5555.

[Dinghy]

And what Thaksin did for this poor People?
30 Baht Card for Hospital - (already exist in different way).
Build a dam. Not working - (the King want to help him.).
Airport 6 Month after the opening. They had to repair.
Rice Programm...
Tablets...
1. Car Buyers.

Only 1 man profits most of all this. Thaksin and his Followers. For sure not the poor Farmers. They have now more dept than ever!
So hurrah this kind of Democracy by People only looking for the Poor in Isaan / Chiangmai / Udon. And Thaksin owns now about 3 Billion USD!

and the last Point - yes the Army is here to prevent a civil war - this crazy Redshirts bombing around and from a Army of at least 100T man - they speak about 600T..
and it's not the first time that there leaders tell the Poeple to burn down Bangkok -of course in a peaceful demoratic way.... 555

Understand one thing. The Thai political situation is far more complex than a single uneducated THAI OR FARANG can know. I have some highly informed Thai friends in the USA and they are almost afraid to speak HERE IN THE USA for fear that it will get back to Thailand.

I doubt that you speak English as a primary language. That is evident from the nuances of how you address concerns.

Thaksin was a consummate Thai politician. Give the people something and collect as much as possible for himself. Not that it is much different anywhere else, just that the Thai are better at accepting the reality.

The bombing was evidently not a redshirt activity. The pix of the guy don't even LOOK THAI. I'm going back for another month in October. I have more SENSE that to go where crowds are (except Pattaya).

One major problem is that the water levels are lower than they need to be to water the fields. That will drive up food prices and the higher costs will affect tourism as a result.

[LaoMan]

And what Thaksin did for this poor People?
30 Baht Card for Hospital - (already exist in different way).
Build a dam. Not working - (the King want to help him.).
Airport 6 Month after the opening. They had to repair.
Rice Programm...
Tablets...
1. Car Buyers.

Only 1 man profits most of all this. Thaksin and his Followers. For sure not the poor Farmers. They have now more dept than ever!
So hurrah this kind of Democracy by People only looking for the Poor in Isaan / Chiangmai / Udon. And Thaksin owns now about 3 Billion USD!

and the last Point - yes the Army is here to prevent a civil war - this crazy Redshirts bombing around and from a Army of at least 100T man - they speak about 600T..
and it's not the first time that there leaders tell the Poeple to burn down Bangkok -of course in a peaceful demoratic way.... 555

Benno,

Before you start a discussion with me, I suggest you do a couple of things. Do some reading so that you are talking from a base of knowledge and not just a pile of nonsense. Secondly ask a few other people, Thais, for example Giles Ugnaporn what he thinks of Voldemort and the present fake government. Then come back and we can have a sensible discussion. OK?

[LaoMan]

Do you report from Mars? -most of Thais are happy with the Military instead of Bomb trowing 'Democrats' - no one tell it's Democracy now -but before it was also not since about 2001! - So only some funny Farangs with Isaan Wife are telling stories about the bad. Bad. Junta!

Really! Lets hold an election then, shall we? Whoops, I forgot, the self appointed PM is too scared because he would get demolished yet again in the result.

By the way, get your facts straight, I do not live in Isaan, nor is my wife from there.

[TwoTimeTed]

Media Reports 17% decrease in Tourism (foreigners).

International media is reporting 5% to 17% decline in tourism to Thailand since the Bangkok bomb. Add the fact that the Chinese stock markets are in limbo and their losing their shirts.

I guess the The Philippines will be the new mecca?

Is it business as usual in Bangkok as the junta says?

[Beno69]

PK,


....The yellow side of the political spectrum has run this country for nearly 60 years, and they did NOTHING for the poor people of the North / North-East. TRT, PT etc. Is not the action, it is the REACTION!..

... Do you really believe that the rice scheme was the reason for this coup? Do you really believe that the possible death Thai people caused by the PDRC demonstrations justify this coup?

....Show me the chapter of the constitution that allows a general to overthrow a government for certain reasons.

And what Thaksin did for this poor People?
30 Baht Card for Hospital - (already exist in different way).
Build a dam. Not working - (the King want to help him.).
Airport 6 Month after the opening. They had to repair.
Rice Programm...
Tablets...
1. Car Buyers.

Only 1 man profits most of all this. Thaksin and his Followers. For sure not the poor Farmers. They have now more dept than ever!
So hurrah this kind of Democracy by People only looking for the Poor in Isaan / Chiangmai / Udon. And Thaksin owns now about 3 Billion USD!

and the last Point - yes the Army is here to prevent a civil war - this crazy Redshirts bombing around and from a Army of at least 100T man - they speak about 600T..
and it's not the first time that there leaders tell the Poeple to burn down Bangkok -of course in a peaceful demoratic way.... 555

[Beno69]

.... However I do tell it the way it is. Surely you cannot support who is the current self appointed PM? As FR as the rumour goes, it is a commonly held view here...

Do you report from Mars? -most of Thais are happy with the Military instead of Bomb trowing 'Democrats' - no one tell it's Democracy now -but before it was also not since about 2001! - So only some funny Farangs with Isaan Wife are telling stories about the bad. Bad. Junta!

[Eric Swiss]

PK,

So what? You want to talk about the rice scheme? Or - some others come up with Hugo Chavez? Or with arguments like "Democracy = Mob Rule" ?

That's ridiculous!

Giotto

I am not sure what is ridiculous about the arguments from political science that point out the flaws and limitations of democratic regimes. They exist, whether you are cognizant of them or not.

For example, it is provable that democracy induces short-time-orientedness, which is what economists call a high discount factor: long-term capital investments are sacrificed in favor of squeezing out immediate dividends. This is no way to run a country if you care about its future.

There is also the iron law of oligarchy, which states that in a democracy the majority of voters are influenced by a small clique of opinion-moulders, while in a monarchy the king can only govern with the consent of an extended entourage of bureaucratic managers, so in the end the size of the effective ruling class is pretty much a constant.

In any case, you will have a hard time convincing me, and probably anybody else for that matter, that the same political system (in this case: democracy) is optimal for all of the 193 different countries in the world and for all the centuries to come. I mean, is your real name Francis Fukuyama?

[LaoMan]

Why you not just tell, that you are a Hardcore Redshirt? - and then all your funny rumors and speculations are easy to understand.

This really is a silly comment. I am a "no shirt". However I do tell it the way it is. Surely you cannot support who is the current self appointed PM? As FR as the rumour goes, it is a commonly held view here.

[Beno69]

....I also agree that they have done nothing for the people of Isaan....

....Incidentally, there is a strong rumour here that the bomb was actually planted by a military stooge so that the self appointed PM has an excuse to impose martial law and postpone an election.

Why you not just tell, that you are a Hardcore Redshirt? - and then all your funny rumors and speculations are easy to understand.

[LaoMan]

Agree with you 100% Giotto!

I also agree 100 percent with this.