FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Danny227]

So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?

That's pretty accurate, depending on the girl. They can always get bitchy about too much touching or too many positions etc.

[Vienna2017]

Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.

I can understand people wanting to make money. Upsell is a form of stealing and that is wrong.

[ExpatLover]

Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.

The only driver for the girls is money, most of the veteran prostitutes are able to make most of us come in several minutes.

[MaxSquatter]

Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.

This is an observation I have been making since two or three years. Even I heard a WG quietly sayning (the 60 Euro Session) ". Should not take longer than 8 minutes."

[TheCanadian]

So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?

This is an observation I have been making since two or three years. Even I heard a WG quietly sayning (the 60 Euro Session) ". Should not take longer than 8 minutes."

[Nooky Ninja]

So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?

This was discussed for the 1000th time back in mid Sept. Nothing is certain-all just chemistry and choosing well. Ninja know 3 other visitors who have had fine time for 60 E, 30 min, all within past month.

Too much complaining, too much theories. Yes of course be careful and wise with choice, discuss all upfront not in room. But really, anything that can be said on this point has been said so many times, Artemis thread becoming autism center.

Be positive, have fun, make girl feel a little special, relax. How it will go depends a lot on you. Finis.

[VonderJohn]

Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.

So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?

[Mr Ho]

While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.

Yeah my tolerance upsell amount is 150 euro and I do not mind upsell like that as long as service is delivered. I mean I am not the type who complain about going over house rate a bit, but when girls break down every service and begin charging for each, I mean I know the prices and I am not ATM toy here. And yes, for that amount, I get services to my satisfaction, of course I accept anal and CIM is optional fee and out side my demand of GFE with above upsell price I am willing to accept.

Well, I am fly in monger and I got choices, so now I monger in other city for little more while. It is too bad I got such a good memories year after year in Artemis, but hey, nothing last forever as they say. One fine day, Artemis would get back to mild upsell club like it once used to be, then I shall be back and try out the club again.

[Danny227]

I discovered Palace later after meeting palace girls in Artemis, then it made me curious to go, but I did begin to taste palace from 2014 or 2015 ish and it was still good.

I believe or like to believe Artemis still has one or two stunners in line up, but I will stay away for little more while due to reported condition and what I also experienced during my last visit quite long ago.

If upsell is too harsh, it is actually cheaper to attend globe if you are fly in monger or other cities for FKK in Germany.

While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.

[Lalabo]

I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.

Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.

PL,

I thought of checking out Samya today, then I read your recent posts about YY and now I am trying to decide which one to visit. Which do you think is better at the moment?

[PussyLiccker]

At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.

So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.

Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.

The drive to Villach is totally worth it, when you get close to the alps. It's quite a sight! Wellcum has a nice backdrop scenery looking from the garden. The neighborhoods though the town routes is picturisque. I was stunned! Facilities, food, and scenery just creates a luxurious feel.

Andiamo is nice to have an alternative, but it is comparatively a small scale LU. Similarly Marina in Slovenia 2 hrs away with same 70 Euro pricing for all 3. And all catering to Italians in the Area. Marina and Andiamo are similar in quantity and quality of the LU with Wellcum being the better choice.

As far as upsells in Funpalast, Lalabo is on the money, it's rare compared to GT Vien, but also, girls are more newish and amateur there. Service is still hit or miss.

[Pistons]

At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.

So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.

Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.

[PussyLiccker]

Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.

Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.

One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?

I will be thesseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.

I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.

Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.

[Lalabo]

Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.

Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.

Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.

One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?

I will be theüsseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.

[PussyLiccker]

I was supposed to be in Zurich last weekend but because of a snow storm USA and missed flight connections I changed my plan and visited Berlin instead.

I was in Artemis last Saturday (November 17), spent 6 hours and did 2 half hour sessions. Club was very crowded pretty much the same way during my first visit couple of years ago. Quality of the lineup has gone way downhill since my 1st visit couple of years ago. Lineup last Saturday was average at best with only few good looking ones.

The two Romanian girls I sessioned preferred half hour sessions, didn't charge for DATY / o, kissing wasn't on the menu, one of them offered NCBJ as extra whereas other didn't offer it. Both girls are very young, petite and pretty. I didn't encounter any up selling or sharky behavior from either of them in room. Both wrapped up the session after I finished with 5-10 min still left. One the girl's name is Beatrice and I forgot the other ones name (she sits with Beatrice on the 2nd couch on the left when you enter the lounge).

Nice facilities. Many places to take a nap which is very helpful when you're tired from a long journey.

Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.