FKK Artemis - Berlin

[The Cane]

I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off! We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!

I don't do 30 minute sessions. I like to do at least an hour. That way I don't feel like I need to be rushing around to get what I want.

[PayForIt]

I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!

We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!

You won't be getting anything for 60 euros. Minimum now is 70/30 without BBBJ.

[Mr Ho]

There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.

I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.

I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.

She is bullshitting LOL! If that is the case, I ain't paying a penny!

I was in Artemis last summer, service was good to me, but Artemis service went down after corona crisis, but hey Artemis raise the price for all including entrance! Service should improve!

[Pessimist]

There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.

Why pay extra for BBBJ? They are still included as late as this year for me. OK, I have taken some 100 E sessions for an hour but that was more for DFK than BBBJ. I have received BBBJ in 50 E sessions in 2019 for sure. Only one trip this year and I can't remember if I did any 50 E sessions or if all of them were 100 E for an hour. What I do know is that I have never paid extra money for BBBJ.

I have taken longer sessions than 30 min for the sake of DFK. That has not been a huge change because even a few years ago there were some girls who did not give up DFK in 30 M and needed additional incentive and taking longer sessions was the way for me.

I would hate to pay any extra for BBBJ alone. If the rates become 150 for an hour with BBBJ I would be quite upset.

[Mr Ho]

There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.

I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!

We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!

[The Cane]

If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.

There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.

[Sirioja]

There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.

I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.

I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.

I thought to make a run to test car, to discover, but I always refuse HJ and CBJ, I hate grocery talk which kill my desire and need fluent kissing.

[Gino02]

There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.

I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.

Now there's something to learn from you. I'm going to use this tactic for any upsell going forward. Thanks man.

[Alessandro527]

If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.

I think extra 20 euro for whole GFE package, BBBJ, DFK and usual DATY and fuck! So 90 euro 30 min sound fair enough!

There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.

I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.

I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.

[Nooky Ninja]

By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.

Probably scores even hundreds of Berlin girls, independent or in private bordellos flats, as or more attractive than Artemis choices for 100-120 / hour. Maybe see 5 men per day. No meal, no pool, no sports studio, no ambiance etc. But Much cheaper, lower Covid risk. Of course, not 0 risk.

Yesterday, Berlin had 288 new cases. Was below 10/ day in June. https://www.berlin.de/corona/lagebericht/ Still say perform "Doctor question test" before going to FKK.

[The Cane]

There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.

Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.

I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.

For a while girls were wanting to charge 50 euros extra for a BBBJ! Sure, 20 is better than 50, but considering the long-term standard of BBBJs being included in the base price, both levels of upcharge "suck" (pun intended).

[Mr Ho]

There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.

Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.

I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.

If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.

I think extra 20 euro for whole GFE package, BBBJ, DFK and usual DATY and fuck! So 90 euro 30 min sound fair enough!

[PayForIt]

One thing I do prefer in FKK is price to be fixed, so extra 20 euro for good BBBJ is reasonable! I hope it stay like this and become standard price of 20 euro good BBBJ! It is better than each time you have to negotiate in annoying way that kills mood and make me want to just bang and leave the room feeling! This way girls lose money too! If they want us to go to room for one hour, they have to make us feel that way too or we just go for 30 min standard rate!

There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.

Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.

I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.

[ExpatLover]

Fix prices is against the new law of 2017, the girls are solo entrepreneurs and are free to fix the prices like in any business.

[Sirioja]

70/30, extra for natural BJ, what about kissing? I mean DFK.