FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Nooky Ninja]

But Dute, that goes against your religion of generalizing nationalities. By stating that you are being hypocritical of your religion of the house of Romies are no good. You say Romies offer fake GFE, and not as good services as non-Romies.

Dute's english a little less than perfect (like many of us). He meant opposite of political correctness. But his sentiment and ideas correct; no link between nationality and service. Good and bad everywhere, both with women and men. Period. Not sure what you try to say as did not study theology.

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At Dutedrac- you very kind but NInja more modest than you think. Only 25 cm, and only maybe last 2 hours in cowgirl

[PussyLiccker]

Me totally agrees with this bunch of politically correct crap.

But Dute, that goes against your religion of generalizing nationalities. By stating that you are being hypocritical of your religion of the house of Romies are no good. You say Romies offer fake GFE, and not as good services as non-Romies.

[Nr 71]

I plan to be at Artemis on Thurs 26 May around 1900 hrs. Hope to meet some ISG members there.

Sent you a PM.

[Pistons]

Generalizations are not allways wrong. But sometimes it is not due to them being different, but it could be because of cultural and economic differences. Or different microclimates at certain clubs. Some club owners are more strict than others, some cities / regions have more FKK competition than others etc etc.

[Dutedrac]

All nationalities have great girls and not so; anyone who make generalizations just display ignorance or lack of experience.

Me totally agrees with this bunch of politically correct crap.

Anyone stating that in Artemis the level of upsell and sharkiness is on average higher then other venues just display ignorance and lack of experience, because the fact that it is possible to get good service from some of the girls clearly proves otherwise.

Me really has enough of those stupid generalizations, like turkish male guests (on average) behave bad and roughly without respect for WGs, or like asians being (on average) easier preys for the WGs because they have tiny cocks and are nerdy and gentle and generous in the clubs.

The fact that there are somewhere in the world asian studs with 30 cm cocks who fuck for hours like horny stallions (though I never heard about, but me thinks probably NukeyNinja here is one) clearly proves that generalizing is wrong.

Unbelievable how many unexperienced ignorant guys are out there.

Happy to hear business more or less as asual in Artemis.

[Krazydude]

I plan to be at Artemis on Thurs 26 May around 1900 hrs. Hope to meet some ISG members there.

[Nooky Ninja]

First of all; Ninja, thank you for your positive and realistic words, I totally agree with you.
I will probably be there from about opening time. I like the daytime, not so crowded, and hopefully weather to enjoy the sun.

PM for details.

[WeirdoVein]

First of all; Ninja, thank you for your positive and realistic words, I totally agree with you.

Visiting Artemis Thursday 26th, and would like to meet up with some other members from this forum to discuss in person.

Anyone else know that they will be there on Thursday?

I will probably be there from about opening time. I like the daytime, not so crowded, and hopefully weather to enjoy the sun.

I'm going to visit Artemis on the 25th and 26th, so we can meet up if you want too! I'm a rookie on the mongering scene, but what I lack in experience I make up in enthusiasm!

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[Mr Ho]

Henansee station is unknown to me. You mean Halensee? Yeah. It is right across the street (if you exit at) before you cross the bridge.

Descriptions on how to get here from Artemis (it is actually 900 meter and not 400 meter as I told initially. Still only 10 min walk):

1: When exiting the entrance to the Artemis proper, turn left and walk towards the bus station.

2: You will pass under two overpasses and on your right you will see steps. Turn left and go up.

3: Continue on the Bornstedter Strasse (you will have greenery and railroad on your left side). If you miss that street and take Kronprinzendamm instead, it is no big deal = both streets lead to same place.

4: If you have ever stayed over at Hotel Kronprinz, this area should be familiar for you. You will pass by this hotel and continue towards Kurfurstendamm..

Thanks buddy I hope the kebab is good there as I love kebab once in awhile I always hope Artemis do kebab wagon in the parking area like FKK sharks do with ice cream wagon that comes in during summer time.

ATM in Artemis LOL each time I need money for girls, it is always I find the girl I wanted just before I leave for the day and I need money desperately out of ATM LOL so commission percentage don't matter in those time LOL.

I never know around Helansee station there are few fast food stands, I will see if they are as good as other kebab places in Berlin I go for 10 minute jogging there from Artemis.

[VaeVictis]

Could you please tell me the location of this kebab place? You walk toward Kurfurstendamm direction from Artemis, then where is this kebab place? Is this near Henansee train station?

Henansee station is unknown to me. You mean Halensee? Yeah. It is right across the street (if you exit at) before you cross the bridge.

Descriptions on how to get here from Artemis (it is actually 900 meter and not 400 meter as I told initially. Still only 10 min walk):

1: When exiting the entrance to the Artemis proper, turn left and walk towards the bus station.

2: You will pass under two overpasses and on your right you will see steps. Turn left and go up.

3: Continue on the Bornstedter Strasse (you will have greenery and railroad on your left side). If you miss that street and take Kronprinzendamm instead, it is no big deal = both streets lead to same place.

4: If you have ever stayed over at Hotel Kronprinz, this area should be familiar for you. You will pass by this hotel and continue towards Kurfurstendamm.

5: Turn right again and cross the bridge. Right after the bridge you will see a small food vendor place (Google maps streetview is outdated). You can buy decent (not exclusive) fast food here. People working here know some English.

6. If you move on further, the entire area is full of places where you can buy food. Personally, for lunch I prefer more expensive places than the described vendor, but if I am short on time, I am eating here.

BTW, nearby (as in 10 seconds walk) you can also find Berliner Sparkasse ATM machines (inside the building, on corner between Kurfurstendamm and Ringbahnstraße) that you can use to take out money for girls in Artemis (don't use their ATM machines. Unless desperate).

[Mr Ho]

They didn't try that, probably because I'm Southern European. Would of been a good chuckle.

Then they will tell you they are Spanish or Italian who only speak Romanians LOL anything goes in FKK LOL.

[Photographe]

I may be at Artemis on the 26th. Definitely 24th and 25th. 26th if I still have energy and interest after two days, LOL.

I'm glad to read what Ninja wrote, as it matches most closely with my own experience: Artemis is never all one thing, as he said it is a complicated and ever shifting mix of psychological, emotional, economic, circumstantial factors, and of course it varies from girl to girl and with the same girl from customer to customer, depending on how you behave and treat them. I have had successful trips in the past in part because I try to always conduct myself in a polite, kind, understanding manner. I know the girls are not there for their own amusement. I try to be as accommodating as possible and not be a nuisance or a drag for them. Of course good behavior is usually rewarded, so it's not all done out of charity on my part either. I want everyone to be happy at the end of a session, if not happy then at least not feeling bad about it.

Anyway, anxious but hopeful to see what the vibe is like in Artemis these days. Hoping for the best.

[Riina]

And remember, if they say they are from spain or Italy, they are most likely Romanians LOL.

They didn't try that, probably because I'm Southern European. Would of been a good chuckle.

[Nr 71]

First of all; Ninja, thank you for your positive and realistic words, I totally agree with you.

Visiting Artemis Thursday 26th, and would like to meet up with some other members from this forum to discuss in person.

Anyone else know that they will be there on Thursday?

I will probably be there from about opening time. I like the daytime, not so crowded, and hopefully weather to enjoy the sun.

[Nooky Ninja]

I think you would be showing your ignorance if you actually believe that you can go to Artemis and choose slowly and wisely. There's a nasty culture breeding at Artemis to provide quick shitty service, especially to non regulars. I never realized how much I dislike Romainians until I walked into this place. Just choose who you find visually appealing and have a session. It's just sixty Euros and you might as well nail as many as you can if already there.

You have your opinion, and your strategy. In Ninja opinion, it is not wise. And all regulars were once newbies. They became regulars because of mutual chemistry. If you talk more, slow down, you have much better experience than Artemis as fast food all you eat buffet. And there are a number of Romanian girls who are fantastic, if you take time to discover. And some German girls and even some Latinas could hold their own on the "shark" mentality. All just individual.

Nasty culture? Maybe you have FKKillusionitis, that girls there just to serve men and enjoy sex because you pay. Their motivations, pressures, psychology, and emotion in the moment vary and are complex. If you fall for aggressive silly games and upsell (by a small few), it really is your fault as it can be avoided 99% of time. You make your luck by your choice. If you are a little more selective, keep discipline, experience can be much better than just McFick. But if you only care on quantity, then do it your way.