FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Danny227]

Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?

LOL, Truly a masterpiece. Well done, you should be a poet. I second the name change. Let's do it.

[TheGreenArrow]

Besides from that you only will go to Artemis if business brings you to Berlin, I have to say that I do not understand what you are saying.

Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.

[Canary]

Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?

Although I think you said this in jest you may have a valid point?

My first visit to the world of FKK was at Artemis, I loved it and returned a number of times.

However my last visit was in November 2017 and since then I have gone to Clubs in the Frankfurt (initially it was by accident) area where I found the service just as good but cheaper.

I've always wanted to return to Artemis but quite frankly the reports I've read on this and other forums have made me think twice.

Artemis was always that "bit more expensive" than other Clubs but it now appears prices have increased further with a decrease in quality services.

Just a shame I never tried Jena!

[Gino02]

74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.

Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?

[Traveller63]

74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.

I am fairly certain that during my last visit I saw Zhukov, Martin Bormann and Lord Lucan, all in towelling dressing gowns, watching the football in the downstairs bar.

[Danny227]

74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.

I like your note. Made me giggle.

160 an hour doesn't guarantee good service anymore. It is extremely sad. Even 200 dies not guarantee good service. Of course, depends on the girls and so on, but lets assume the consensus on top girls rather than a subjective view. Even than the top Artemis girls are far off from top Hessen NRW girls. Artemis is really difficult these days.

As for numbers, while Artemis is still ATM the club with most visitors, the number of frequenters had declined and will keep declining. But let remember that most of the Artemis crowd is tourist who can't really differentiate service levels and those get kicked out of the room in 10 minutes and get 2 minutes covered BJ with another two positions sex for another 5 minutes before the girls says "you take to long, finish already and stop breathing on me. "

This trickle down economy of awareness will take more time before it is fully translated into numbers.

[ZimmerBaby]

So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?

74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.

[Traveller63]

Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).

I haven't been to Artemis for some time (12 months?) so I don't have a feel for how busy the place is nowadays.

It strikes me that the FKK model is capitalism in quite a pure form. Supply and demand with no regulation of costs other than those of the market.

If numbers of punters decrease then Artemis will presumably wish to act (as far as they can) to address the issues. If the numbers of customers remain high, presumably they won't bother, its not a problem financially.

So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?

[Optimist]

My Artemis break didn't happen as I had to work in Berlin last week. Many girls are missing, but I am not sure if they really kick out some girls. Had one 60 euro session and it was quite amusing. She asked for a twenty euro tip if I keep her in the room over 20 minutes, I am not going to use any adjectives here as I am sure why'all can come up with many personalized / customized adjectives that will be just as good and there are just too many. A waste of money. The girl was newish I think and after that session, I have only one question: what is the point of kicking out girls if the new girls you take to work for you are a disaster? Shit in shit out doesn't work IMO.

It gets worst and worst and no one is the wiser there.

Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).

[ExpatLover]

I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.

The boss is a key member of the HA Berlin, I am not really sure you met him, many girls have a close relation to the the HA members, let us not be naive.

[Danny227]

I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.

My Artemis break didn't happen as I had to work in Berlin last week. Many girls are missing, but I am not sure if they really kick out some girls. Had one 60 euro session and it was quite amusing. She asked for a twenty euro tip if I keep her in the room over 20 minutes, I am not going to use any adjectives here as I am sure why'all can come up with many personalized / customized adjectives that will be just as good and there are just too many. A waste of money. The girl was newish I think and after that session, I have only one question: what is the point of kicking out girls if the new girls you take to work for you are a disaster? Shit in shit out doesn't work IMO.

It gets worst and worst and no one is the wiser there.

[PinballMachine]

I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.

Besides from that you only will go to Artemis if business brings you to Berlin, I have to say that I do not understand what you are saying.

[Mr Ho]

I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.

Some girls are even banned from Artemis. It is strict on certain things, but upselling and service provided is no touch zone and girls do what they want more or less in Artemis, but there seems to be some fixed rule among girls.

[TheGreenArrow]

I have to add and point out one thing based on my experience though.

Beside what I wrote being quite accurate observation of recent trend in FKK like palace and Artemis, the best sessions I had in all FKK are in Artemis and palace LOL.

What I wanted saying is that mild upsell is good thing that serve both interest of monger and FKK girls, but recent trend of extreme upsell is almost only serving girls only and question mongers to go else where, where water is sweeter, better and cheaper.

Berlin was perfect city for me for mongering in Germany, I enjoy the city till like 4 pm and from 5 pm ish, I go to Artemis till midnight or bit later. I hope I will return one day as my core mongering destination.

As for now, I will stick to land in Frankfurt, train to Dusseldorf, to enjoy two cities, where I can cut risks into two cities with many clubs.

I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.

[Mr Ho]

Mr Ho,

I totally agree with you and others. For me there are no excuses for the way most girls behave themselves at Artemis, greed is a death sin after all LOL.

Even longer sessions comes with extra nowadays, if you add the entrance fee as well you can have two hour long sessions in sunny Spain with CIM included in her services. As I wrote, for me the choice is simple.

I will come to Berlin with a gang in mid June for leisure in Berlin. I will visit Artemis once or twice if I get Kisha to be in Berlin on those dates, if not I might skip it actually.

I have to add and point out one thing based on my experience though.

Beside what I wrote being quite accurate observation of recent trend in FKK like palace and Artemis, the best sessions I had in all FKK are in Artemis and palace LOL.

What I wanted saying is that mild upsell is good thing that serve both interest of monger and FKK girls, but recent trend of extreme upsell is almost only serving girls only and question mongers to go else where, where water is sweeter, better and cheaper.

Berlin was perfect city for me for mongering in Germany, I enjoy the city till like 4 pm and from 5 pm ish, I go to Artemis till midnight or bit later. I hope I will return one day as my core mongering destination.

As for now, I will stick to land in Frankfurt, train to Dusseldorf, to enjoy two cities, where I can cut risks into two cities with many clubs.