FKK Artemis - Berlin

[BlackUnknown]

Thanks all for you answers.

It is correct the girls are regularly tested in Artemis. That doesn't provide much protection against STI's as there is always the risk that the guy who she gave BBBJ to immediately before you was infected, so when she gives you the same, so is she and now you are. But the chances of this happening are very very slim indeed. You'd need to be incredibly unlucky. But if you get STD you can get antibiotics to cure chlamydia. Gonorrhoea is treatable by antibiotics or at least it was. It is now becoming very resistant to such drugs and there are strains in the US an in Europe which fight off the drugs. But your concern is about HIV and as has been said by several members already your risk if you practice safe sex is VERY low indeed.

I had panic about this 3 years ago when I had a fantastic two weeks in Thailand and had a lot of sex. The girls there often use very poor quality condoms and on 5 occasions they broke whilst I was having sex. I was very concerned because this effectively amounted to having unprotected sex with Thai sex workers. Positively dangerous, and on my part.

Thanks for your detailed answer. As you said, there's always a risk of breaking a condom, that's why I have to think twice before taking any action.

By the way, I think there's a medicine you can take within 72 of having sex, which is called PEP (Post-exposure prophylaxis). Problem that it's not possible to buy it from a pharmacy as far as I understand.

Have you considered this lifestyle is not for you? Only handjobs and kisses wtf!

As I said, I enjoyed visiting the clubs before, but my worries are disturbing that now. I think it's not so weird to worry about my health, especially when we're taking about something dangerous as HIV.

[VaeVictis]

Visiting Artemis on Thursday night (no report due to no new experiences) I was told by a girl that Jenna was back in Artemis couple of days and then she left.

[VaeVictis]

So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.

Thanks in advance.

Having multiple sexual partners will always increase the chance of getting STDs. And frequenting places such as Artemis will increase the chance substantially (due to girls having sex with many punters during her workday). However. Use of condom (greatly reduces chances of getting STDs) and biweekly checks of the girls (STD "epidemy" is easier to detect and contain) will decrease risk of STD greatly. In fact I would say that having safe sex in Artemis is much safer that with some promiscuous girl in your office or that you meet in a night club. Because THAT girl only goes to her doctor when the symptoms are obvious or in pain.

Ironically it seems that you are not scared about kissing despite kissing being excellent transmitter method of infections (normal ones and couple of STDs too).

So relax. If you want safest possible experience (except staying at home and avoiding having sex) that is also involves more than HJ, use condom always (BJ included) and avoid kissing.

[Jerboa]

Hi all,

I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.

Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.

After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.

Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.

So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.

Thanks in advance.

Have you considered this lifestyle is not for you? Only handjobs and kisses wtf!

[PayForIt]

Hi all,

I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.

Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.

After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.

Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.

Thanks in advance.

It is correct the girls are regularly tested in Artemis. That doesn't provide much protection against STI's as there is always the risk that the guy who she gave BBBJ to immediately before you was infected, so when she gives you the same, so is she and now you are. But the chances of this happening are very very slim indeed. You'd need to be incredibly unlucky. But if you get STD you can get antibiotics to cure chlamydia. Gonorrhoea is treatable by antibiotics or at least it was. It is now becoming very resistant to such drugs and there are strains in the US an in Europe which fight off the drugs. But your concern is about HIV and as has been said by several members already your risk if you practice safe sex is VERY low indeed.

I had panic about this 3 years ago when I had a fantastic two weeks in Thailand and had a lot of sex. The girls there often use very poor quality condoms and on 5 occasions they broke whilst I was having sex. I was very concerned because this effectively amounted to having unprotected sex with Thai sex workers. Positively dangerous, and on my part. Stupid. But I got checked out and was absolutely fine. The risk is still low for the person who is penetrating. Still foolish of me.

Your risk of this in an FKK is much lower. Girls tend to use very heavyweight good quality condoms which are actually a nuisance as they don't feel too good sometimes and are nowhere near as good as Sagami condoms from the Far East but they are very safe and I've only ever had one break in an FKK with a girl in Artemis by way of coincidence but I was really going at it hard in doggy.

So all in all, your risk of HIV is very low. It is not 100% safe. In which case if you are that concerned about it, continue to have HJs. Nothing wrong with that and you are guaranteed not to get HIV. You still get to touch some beautiful girls, enjoy the views in the club, and can do so with virtually no risks at all. A happy safe mind is better than the horrible worry if you make mistakes.

[WarmStone25]

Curly hair? Maybe Nena.

I remember straight hair, young face. I saw her first as I walked through the sliding doors and passed the bar. She sat with a very erect posture and looked straight ahead. That with her smooth looks made me notice her. I got the feeling that maybe she was a little inexperienced in the room or perhaps just new to Artemis. The name sounds familiar though. I will return on the 24th October and will look for her then.

[DethManRulz]

Hi all,

I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.

Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.

After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.

Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.

So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.

Thanks in advance.

You're much more likely to catch other STD's. But not HIV. It's actually pretty hard to catch HIV with safe sex.

[Hessen Bub]

Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers?

If you practice safer sex the risk of catching HIV in a FKK club is close to zero.

HB.

[Photographe]

BlackUnknown,

One of the most persuasive arguments in favor of legalized and regulated prostitution is the emphasis placed on safety and regular testing. I should think that no one who owns and operates an FKK wants to run the risk of losing everything because they are being lax with testing and then nasty stuff starts spreading to the customers. Of course there might always be exceptions for girls that are doing something they shouldn't, but if you are using protection it seems pretty safe. You could even ask for a condom during the BJ if you prefer (a glimpse of what's to come next year, I suppose).

Bottom line I think you are just as safe if not more so going with girls at FKK clubs as you are going with random women you meet out in the world. Especially if they are the type to have sex after just meeting.

[BlackUnknown]

Hi all,

I am not sure if this's the best place to talk about this, but I will give it a try.

Last year I made some visits to different FKK clubs in Germany, and actually I enjoyed most of them, but after one of the visits, I became ill and the syndromes were very similar for catching HIV.

After a while, I did the test and everything was fine, but since then I am having difficulties with visiting any club again. I have some kind of phobia of catching HIV.

Recently I visited Artemis, and that didn't go very well, because I was trying to avoid any risky contact with the girls, and only stayed with handjob and kisses.

So I want to know your opinion about this matter. Do you think there's a big risk in having "safe" sex with sex workers? And by the way, one of the girls in Artemis told me that they're always do some tests for HIV, but I am not sure about that.

Thanks in advance.

[Nooky Ninja]

Objection, Your Honour! Things have changed once again. Some more girls during day time.

Professor Pharisaer, Super Suppenhuhn and all numbers dudes. Ninja was only trying to keep things simple. Numbers float around even by the different days of the week (Sun-Tues, even Wed slower during day, etc.). Point is while you can always find chemistry etc anytime, odds, and choices increase (like factor of 2-4) starting at about 1800, and certainly after 2000 when 95% of evening shift has arrived.

If you have favs, and they are on day shift, of course, even better. Much more chill scene, less smoke, better music. For someone who has only limited time to visit, if possible, scheduling around early evening when all are in, fresh, and place not overcrowded is optimal.

[SuppenHuhn]

At NookyNinja.

10-15 girls when the club opens.

3 o'clock maybe 30 women.

6 o'clock about 50 girls or more.

[Pharisaer]

Weak-only 10-15 girls during day, starts filling up after 1800.

Objection, Your Honour! Things have changed once again. Some more girls during day time.

[Pistons]

. Girls may or may not ask. Not big issue but maybe better to say you have been at other FKKs (example Trump Tower in New York).

Only russians go there, so that might scare of a few of these eastern european girls...

A few russians once shot one of the bouncers at Artemis (just with air, but he got a deep wound), so that can mean bad rep.


http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-russian-mobster-tokhtakhounov-miss-universe-moscow

[Nooky Ninja]

Q1. I was planning to visit the club from 13:00 - 20:00. Hows the line up during those times? I mean how many girls will be there?

Weak-only 10-15 girls during day, starts filling up after 1800. Much better in evenings, as discussed many times in thread.

Q2. I heard that there was a raid recently. How are the line ups in terms of hotness?

No effect. Police tried to tell all beautiful girls to leave so only uglies stay, but it did not work. Many choices as always. You will find 5+ for sure.

Q3. Price still 60 euros for 30 minutes BJ and FS right?

Yes.

Q4. Will the front desk or the girls ask me if I visited any FKK before?.

Front desk ask only so you understand rules and prices. Girls may or may not ask. Not big issue but maybe better to say you have been at other FKKs (example Trump Tower in New York). Just be clear what you expect and agree on costs before going to room and make small talk to see if good vibe.