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07-07-16 00:16 #9174
Posts: 6686Backpackbrain: hardly. The prices won't get that high. The German market is so saturated above and below this price range that rising prices are very difficult. Don't forget that you don't just only have other FKKs to think about, but all other sorts of competitions too. Like red light districts 25 e a session, AO clubs, strip clubs etc etc. And then there is the abroad competition. Now 60 e I can probably see it rise to in western Germany, but there there are so many clubs, and smaller FKK's too, so you have a hard drag downwards. The smaller FKK's not being mentioned here are sometimes much preferred among the local Germans. Just heard from one guy that he normally prefers Feigenblatt to any of the larger Hessen clubs and its cheaper. The larger FKK's are much more tourist destinations, and the market is global. Nobody would go to Germany if the price of a session was 80e+ for 30 minutes. At least I wouldnt.
Unemployment is high in europe, and globally unemployment is rising. What do you think will happen to the sheer number of prostitutes in 10 years globally? I can even see prices in Asia falling drastically again after the recent years ludicrous price hikes in some markets over there. And china could always open more up to prostitution too in a political decission change...
Or consider the sharing economy moving onto prostitution like this on a more global scale:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/12/china-people-for-rent-startup-app-prostitution-social-networking-sex/
Most mongers I know that goes to Asia nowadays only use social networking. Even facebook is used to for hookups there at some locations. Wechat though makes whole china into a brothel now prostitution is more widely accepted in Asia than in the west, but there is a shift in the west towards accepting more and more prostitution also. In a generation I think we will be more like Asia. But it depends on the jobs market too perhaps. And religion. Islam could pose a threat. Like Christianity does in some countries like Italy, USA and Philippines but with the way the world is heading, politicians probably have to make a decision. More [CodeWord123] like in India or some Muslim countries on the streets, or making prostitution legal. The economy and the introvert society does that.
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07-06-16 20:59 #9173
Posts: 438Originally Posted by DrJekyll [View Original Post]
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07-06-16 18:40 #9172
Posts: 1178I have read the second post and I can't continue reading.
I wonder the reason men forgot sex market and sex service were and are paid on a time unit. Within a time unit, customers can ask everything, and I mean everything, to a prostitute. If a prostitute can't or doesn't fulfill the ordered service, then she returns the money as soon as possible. I say, prostitutes in the past USSR were usually paid at the end of the service, when customers were happy of her service, and this rule was a warranty of satisfaction and professionalism. I say, I had some experiences of this kind. And I know men who are getting this kind of service by Slavic prostitutes in Western countries. Therefore, it is still possible to get an incredible service at a honest price even nowadays!
Instead, when prostitutes talk about the time and irrespective of customers' satisfaction, then this means just one result: a scam! It is not necessary any experience to understand this behavior, since this rule is common in any kind of business in any kind of place in the world!
Moreover, if you still think prostitutes are the weakest link in the sex market, then you shouldn't pretend to ignore prostitutes buy any kind of narcotics and they re-sell them to their customers, and they search and promote new girls to transform in prostitutes. At the end, women exploit other women and they make them drug addicted!
Originally Posted by FiddyCent [View Original Post]
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07-06-16 06:33 #9171
Posts: 232Up selling starts incrementally and in all areas!
What I hear from other mongers is that, well, it won't happen, it won't go up that high ( 100/30 min) or if it does Artemis mongers will just go to other clubs! What I think is easily overlooked is with an open market price creep starts relatively slowly, similar to raising taxes (ex. Lets just raise the taxes a little bit! So next month we might have only a 5-10 Euro increase for 30 min. And then in 1 year it will be another 5-10 Euro. And if you think it will only be at Artemis you are surely wrong. It will happen at all FKK's. Once the word gets out, which would be within hours, all clubs will increase their prices. All clubs already coordinate how much to charge, that's why all clubs cost approximately $50, with Artemis being the exception, charging 60. Before you take your next trip in two years you be looking at a standard 115 Euro /30 session standard cost. Maybe I'm venting here for nothing! Just want to make sure the prices stay at the point where I can keep doing this for a very long time and not spend a small fortune doing it.
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07-06-16 02:11 #9170
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
Also up sell is annoying and even they charge more to provide empty promise to the money they charge, then pro mongers will just go to Globe Zurich where the service is guaranteed by the club for charging higher price than FKK in Germany, this is very Switzerland, you pay more, but service is guaranteed. In German FKK, up sell by girls often end up in bogus empty promise.
I have bought up sell before and I had best experience sometimes, so if girls can guarantee they will deliver I do not mind mild upsell, but this is where difficulty begin to kicks in.
In the end, it is human related service business so we just got to know what we are doing and also we just got to be lucky.
Artemis just need to freshen up LU with more younger girls. Up sell at Artemis is not that bad though.
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07-05-16 22:03 #9169
Posts: 22Antonia & Alessandra?
Originally Posted by DrJekyll [View Original Post]
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07-05-16 20:03 #9168
Posts: 6686Different price for different girls are not the way. Not in europe at least as our mentality is of socialism. Besides it could lead to too many other variations like Dutedarc described in another thread here. If they start with that, then I'm off. The top Artemis girls are real top notch. Top 5 or so. But I hardly ever see all of them at the same time. And options are fading and ageing.
It was better last year with Jayda from Stuttgart and a few others, but have anyone seen her lately?
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07-05-16 19:15 #9167
Posts: 1854Knowing what the market will stand
Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
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07-05-16 12:39 #9166
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Either way, we can just go to other clubs if they begin to change something drastically like price they already are charging more than other clubs.
Current prices are good enough and I hope girls have enough brain to realize that they already are charging more than other clubs and offering same or worst service and LU are same or worst than other clubs in Germany.
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07-05-16 11:10 #9165
Posts: 6686The girls at artemis have a loose agreement among themselves to stick to the old prices. Lets hope it last. I am sure they have to see it as keeping up the reputation of their club as well.
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07-05-16 03:01 #9164
Posts: 232Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
NOW I'm all in favor of an open market, I'm a capitalist here in the USA, but I do like the system in Germany with fixed prices for FS, keep the socialist sex trade in Germany the way it is and I'm good to fly over there 2-3 times a year.
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07-05-16 02:52 #9163
Posts: 232Originally Posted by ShoesAndSocks [View Original Post]
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07-05-16 02:17 #9162
Posts: 767Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
It's always been and still remains a case of spying one you like, and then finding out how she operates.
I would rather not have to negotiate. I just find it a hassle in what should be a simple pleasure.
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07-05-16 02:13 #9161
Posts: 1407Why not pay by the minute?
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
You should try and negotiate a pay per minute service. If a girl cheats you out or wants to finish early, just say you were only in here for 25 minutes so 50 Euros. The Anal pay per minute rate would be higher, of course. For a long session, the girl will make 220 Euros per hour, same as before, but if she tries to cheat you, then pay her 3. 67 Euros per minute up to a maximum of 220 Euros. Fair is fair. LOL.
FiddyCent.
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07-05-16 01:11 #9160
Posts: 1854Open market
Originally Posted by ShoesAndSocks [View Original Post]