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  1. #11017
    Mr Ho,

    I totally agree with you and others. For me there are no excuses for the way most girls behave themselves at Artemis, greed is a death sin after all LOL.

    Even longer sessions comes with extra nowadays, if you add the entrance fee as well you can have two hour long sessions in sunny Spain with CIM included in her services. As I wrote, for me the choice is simple.

    I will come to Berlin with a gang in mid June for leisure in Berlin. I will visit Artemis once or twice if I get Kisha to be in Berlin on those dates, if not I might skip it actually.

  2. #11016
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBears  [View Original Post]
    To be fair, it's not hard to find good service at Artemis. But to find it at reasonable price is very hard nowadays.

    Personally I don't go to Berlin only for Artemis anymore, honestly I think it's to expensive. I will be there in mid June next time, to ensure it being a good time I will try to get a few of my favorite girls to be there on those dates, using WhatsApp messages.

    I much rather go to Spain for better and cheaper service, can't compare FKK experience to mongering in Spain. But the sunny weather, nicer food and the more relaxed atmosphere makes the decision easy for me.
    I like Berlin as a city to visit too beside Artemis, it got historical vibe to the city that I love with plenty of things to do before heading to Artemis from late afternoon till midnight.

    However, big problem with Artemis and palace is that:

    1): Not just upsell, but extreme upsell.

    I do not mind mild upsell in exchange for service, but in recent years girls just got more stupidly greedy that nobody who has some idea about other FKK won't take such a price tag that they now try to push on your face in German FKK. It is in same range as or sometimes even more than globe Zurich where service is sure and secure to deliver.

    2): Delivery of promised serviced is not sure thing.

    Even you agree on their upsell to some extent, they sometimes do not deliver the service they promised to deliver in exchanging for upsell.

    Conclusion:

    The business transaction has to serve both parties and in some case in Artemis and palace, it is only to the favor for girl and not client, so in some cases, it is better off to go to globe Zurich where service is secure in exchange for higher price and go to nrw where it is no upsell almost with better service till Artemis and palace girls calm down a bit with crazy deal they try to offer.

  3. #11015

    Legends.

    See that you guys were discussing legends of Artemis. If we talk about service level I think almost every guest has a different experience with a specific girl, but sure some girls have grown a reputation over the years to perform at a higher level of GFE experience. And I admit that I have had sessions with a specific girl because of her reputation. Two girls crosses my mind Nina (CZ) and Fatima (SVK) normally I wouldn't session with them because looks wise they don't appeal to me, but I must admit they were both great performers. I think they both should be considered as Legends. Marketa (CZ) who someone mentioned, took her to the room a couple of times but nothing spectacular to me.

    A few other girls that have been great performers for me over the years have been Annika (DE) one of the famous 'Abdul' gang that included Lulu as well if I'm not mistaken. Bella (CUB) has always been fantastic with me. Sheenya (ROM) was super beautiful and second to none in the zimmer. Akira (Thai) big breasted asian beauty, super GFE. And two still active girls at Artemis, Samantha (BUL) and Kisha (DE, BRA) I must be honest and say that Samantha is getting a bit old for my taste, but she has always been a absolute pleasure to spend time with. Kisha is probably my all time favorite at Artemis, needless to say her service level is top class if you get to know her.

    Others that can be considered as 'Legends' must be Jenna (DE) for her unique rack! Iris (ROM) has been there since at least 2009 when I was with her for the first time of many!! Sick when you think about it!

  4. #11014
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny227  [View Original Post]
    Could have been a beautiful natural girl and instead she is a beautiful silicone girl.

    I am not sure if she still performs at old days level.
    I went with her once and it was in 2014, she was good. She has beautiful classy small face and her figure is perfect, it is just that too big enhanced tit, the same goes for Nika too, this group make it way too big. Plus inks on all over the body.

    Some guys like it, but I tend to like natural type beauty, so with my taste, it was waste of beauty as they would have been beauty without it.

    However, even though I do not like tattoos at all, I sometimes like fucking girls with many tattoos like that because I do not meet girls with so many tattoos like that with social circle that I am in, so it was nice going with her once.

    They are actually very good hearted girls and fair enough price with return of good service, I paid 150 euro for one hour and the service was good. She was good person, so I do miss seeing her around in club because she is faded away from main mega FKK clubs now with very limited sighting at palace now. I do imagine, she will always work in brothel industry though because with so much tattoos, it would be hard to find other jobs.

  5. #11013
    To be fair, it's not hard to find good service at Artemis. But to find it at reasonable price is very hard nowadays.

    Personally I don't go to Berlin only for Artemis anymore, honestly I think it's to expensive. I will be there in mid June next time, to ensure it being a good time I will try to get a few of my favorite girls to be there on those dates, using WhatsApp messages.

    I much rather go to Spain for better and cheaper service, can't compare FKK experience to mongering in Spain. But the sunny weather, nicer food and the more relaxed atmosphere makes the decision easy for me.

  6. #11012
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    She would have been classy beauty girl if she did not have all that tattoo and too big enhanced silicone tits of plastic surgeries, but that is what the FKK industry do to many girls.

    First they begin by small tattoo, that spread to bigger areas of their body to eventually covering most part of their body, then do breast silicone job, then do the lip enhancement to give them duck lip, then do nose job to give more higher straighten nose, then sky is the limit for their surgeries and inking.

    It is almost as if the brothel industry and FKK atmosphere is slowly polluting their body too with silicone and inks.

    I hardly ever seen surgeries or inking going good and it is too bad because some girls would have been so much more beautiful when they started out without surgeries and tattoos, but hey, this formula goes same with normal out of industry girls, with in legal age are better girls look.
    Could have been a beautiful natural girl and instead she is a beautiful silicone girl.

    I am not sure if she still performs at old days level.

  7. #11011
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny227  [View Original Post]
    Nope, two girls is not throwing the title around, I agree. However, I don't think she hit the service jackpot with so many as she did with you. That said, going to other clubs, I easily find higher level of service. Don't you have similar experience?
    The clubs where I have consistently had the most outstanding service include Artemis, Oase, Palace, Babylon Hamburg, and Atmos. Always laugh and shake my head when mongers claim nothing but poor service at some of these clubs. That has not been my personal experience. Maybe it's the routine hour-long sessions and the extras. I don't know. On the other hand, mongers go on and on praising Sharks, but the place just doesn't work for me. Go figure!

  8. #11010
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenArrow  [View Original Post]
    You have right. She is in the Palace in Frankfurt. Maybe today not so good like before, but then in Artemis was granade all.
    She would have been classy beauty girl if she did not have all that tattoo and too big enhanced silicone tits of plastic surgeries, but that is what the FKK industry do to many girls.

    First they begin by small tattoo, that spread to bigger areas of their body to eventually covering most part of their body, then do breast silicone job, then do the lip enhancement to give them duck lip, then do nose job to give more higher straighten nose, then sky is the limit for their surgeries and inking.

    It is almost as if the brothel industry and FKK atmosphere is slowly polluting their body too with silicone and inks.

    I hardly ever seen surgeries or inking going good and it is too bad because some girls would have been so much more beautiful when they started out without surgeries and tattoos, but hey, this formula goes same with normal out of industry girls, with in legal age are better girls look.

  9. #11009
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I wasn't talking about "these days". I was with talking about those days I was with Lilia and Marketa LOL! Yes, all the Artemis tutes I have been with over the years. And to say that out of that volume just two were "legendary". That's hardly throwing the title around and just giving it out to everybody.
    Nope, two girls is not throwing the title around, I agree. However, I don't think she hit the service jackpot with so many as she did with you. That said, going to other clubs, I easily find higher level of service. Don't you have similar experience?

  10. #11008
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.

    However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it..
    +1.

    Agree on everything here. Up until my last visit to Artemis in Dec. I was still giving this place the benefit of a doubt. I've sadly had to realize that there was time to take a long break from this club. IMO it deteriorated even during 2018 alone, and I could see a nog difference between my visit in Jan. Vs the one in Dec.

  11. #11007
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.

    However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.
    Artemis is a nightmare for all the mongers looking for a good ratio price vs service, now if you are willing to spend a lot of euros probably you will get good service, also the girls are in average older than in the other big FKK, so also less fresh not only body wise but also in their head.

  12. #11006
    Quote Originally Posted by Sexaddict12  [View Original Post]
    I When I had sex with her I felt like I had sex with a porn star I would recommend Selena from Bulgaria to anyone.
    She is nice girl. Does not enjoy cunnilingus, but I do it for myself, not for her / them in general. Strange thing is; she starts teasing after the session, offering her sexy ass. Too late, I'm in recovery mode (since I am not 16 anymore). Some of you guys are obviously CEOs of Rectum Research, so give it a try. Will try next time. Damage 120/1 hour. CBJ. Because German laws are and have always been for the benefit of mankind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTpEoi0tzE

  13. #11005
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.
    I go almost exclusively for hour-long sessions with BBBJ / CIM and anal (when the girl does that). I'm very picky, and don't try to go with every single girl in the place. I will take my time and pick. Maybe only 2 max per visit. Sometimes 3. It works for me. I definitely don't think that you get more just by paying more for extras though! You have to take your time and screen for the girls who are going to "do it" for you. I've had a lot of success over the years, and would go to Artemis again.

  14. #11004
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.

    However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.

    I do think it would be bizarre not to acknowledge that the service level in this club has deteriorated enormously, however the service level of an individual girl is up to individual experiences, maybe her service level is still very good.

    The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.
    I very agree with this. You say it better. The girl it is semantica: the service it is in the moment one of the best in Artemis for sure. It is just not legendary. For me legendary it is Michael Jordan hall of fame if I make basketball analogia. More than this I think Artemis have not legendary girls for a long time. But in general words, we agree that Artemis it is down for long time now, the girl it is good of course (I think not legendary mister the cane think yes it is legendary). It is all. Thanks all for making clarification and many respect to everyone here. Happy time in FKK and bordello and for all I wish good prostitutes for the Easter.

  15. #11003

    Deterioration of Artemis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenArrow  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand why so aggressive. A service is not believe not believe it is a fact. When you experience like you with 2000 things here post, I think you know what you say. This what I say a legendary load you experience. In all honesty and no aggressively. I am sorry to say opposition of you.
    I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.

    However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.

    I do think it would be bizarre not to acknowledge that the service level in this club has deteriorated enormously, however the service level of an individual girl is up to individual experiences, maybe her service level is still very good.

    The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.

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