FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Ulver]

That is the point. It is in line with private apartment bordellos and independents. I was told A management put out the word in one of their all hands on deck meetings recently. So while some girls may try to stretch this, you can refer to this "policy" and see what happens. Chemistry always an individual thing and a girl can refuse or decide "OK I will kiss this ugly slob but only if he pays", so YMMV. But this price is now the baseline and it should be referred to in any negotiations.

When you consider that session prices were 60430 at the beginning, 15 years ago, 80430 not such a bad thing. But I was told management is trying to reign in some of the crazy prices girls were offering, and that is an important step in the right direction. Overall I think things are improving there.

This is good news. I haven't been to Artemis for years. Maybe I should reconsider.

[Danny227]

Did Danny just get his wishes fulfilled? No, I can tell you there were relatively few Eastern Europeans and much more Germans than I have gotten used to the last 10 years or so.

About 35-45 girls that are German born or leave in Germany many years to be fully accustomed.

Eastern Europe not that many. Would actually be nice to have some more of them. I don't have anything against German girls. I don't really care where they are from mostly. But German girls are more expensive and service is more distant. Romanians, Bulgarians are less price aggressive and higher service level. Also, there are no new Romanians in Artemis. Some fresh girls will be nice, preferably no silicone and younger instead of all the grandmothers there. Worst casting in Artemis in many years.

Inflated dolls with lipstick and a mask.

[Member #4658]

we seem to live in separate worlds.

Agree on all points. While it is just not everyone's cup of tea, (and people themselves can have a bad day), things really seem to have gotten better. Not like the glory days of the first 8-10 years, but much, noticeably better than the last 2.

[Member #4733]

Girls are not allowed to interact / touch / seduce in any way other than talking, even the talking time is limited to a short time and then the girl has to move on.

Really? Not touching is told by some girls for years and years. Some told me there are cameras but cannot point at them? LOL Others seem to simply disobey the rules. I had several girls crawling over me. And this has always happened to me. Twice I had to propose a room as she wouldn't stop talking.

This extends further by the prices being super fixed.

For years we have been complaining about upsell to the extreme. Finally solved!

Although I was there on a Friday it was quite slow with the number of clients, and there were many girls.

So happy about it. Again we all complain about the bad ratio: too many men and too few girls. Finally solved!

but the girls were not getting clients and this of course visibly frustrated but. Nothing they can do. They still have to charge expensive and then the extras.

You are on a mission from. I wonder whether we stayed the same night. That could be and to me it was a very good night. Quite the opposite. Second session only a few rooms left. Third session we had the last room.

Speaking of pricing, its quite a bit more expensive than Dusseldorf / Frankfurt;

So what the heck do you want? Free prices, upsell, more money for the girls. And now suddenly you start rattling about the high prices. Which is not true by the way. Many girls anywhere do upsell a lot. In Artemis this has been curbed. To your dismay?

Generally most of them were doing their rounds like robots and you can see that they are frustrated / not excited.

I talked to a lot of girls. Many girls were having fun. Among each other. Or with guys. There were even two girls proposing a threesome to a lot of guys. They really tried to seduce and have fun. After they tried me they needed two more customers to finally find their victim. Girls like that make the atmosphere a lot better with animated talking.

Generally it was actually quite difficult to find someone to go to the room with

Still wondering whether we were there at the same night (31/1). Many beautiful girls. I really am an optick ficker and I easily got a hard-on. Did you see Ginger, Avril, the Bulgarian in red bikini that continuously proposed everybody to a room? And four or five more were really to my liking.

Mostly Eastern Europeans

Maybe they should bring more Romanians, Russians and Bulgarians and thin out the heavy German presence.

Did Danny just get his wishes fulfilled? No, I can tell you there were relatively few Eastern Europeans and much more Germans than I have gotten used to the last 10 years or so.

- 5 or so German girls, one was completely natural and petite but the rest were heavy on the makeup and surgery, mostly huge boobs.

I had two German girls and talked to a few more. Whom are you talking about?

- 5 or so Latin / African girls, they had the nicest vibe and attitude and chill, without them this would've been even worse.

You got to be kidding. There was one hot African girl that was in the bar only shortly around 2 pm and almost depressed at that time. Just didn't want to talk to her. She was booked all the time, for her gorgeous figure probably. The other African girls were mostly alone, mostly disappointed. The Cuban girl (40 yo) especially walked around with no success at all and not very happy about it.

- Getting there: walking distance from Westkreuz, and getting to Westkreuz from anywhere in Berlin is really easy. I think trains run 24/7 as I left like 4 or something and still found a train back, check google maps.

That is for the weekend. And not everywhere in Berlin. Mostly the circular (41,42) and the line towards Haupthbahnhof (3, 5, 7, 9, 75). Other lines that you might want to change to in order to get home are shut down earlier.

I left like 4 or something

That might explain something. After around 2 am Artemis loses a lot of it's vibe that is so dominant at 8 pm.

long time lurker first time poster

Happy to see your contribution but we seem to live in separate worlds.

[RandomDude963]

Spoiler alert.

Quite bad overall, not excited / planning to visit again anytime soon, would prefer to go to any of the clubs in Dusseldorf / Frankfurt.

Strict management kills the fun (-10/10).

My biggest disappointment, this is going to start stupid to start but please bear with me, is generally how restricting / imposing / regulating the management is towards the girls, which of course trickles down to the costumers of course.

Girls are not allowed to interact / touch / seduce in any way other than talking, even the talking time is limited to a short time and then the girl has to move on. Many of the girls told me this and that they would be told off for violating. 1) this completely kills the sexuality vibe 2) this doesn't get me as excited to go to a room, half of the pleasure for me is the seduction in public before going to the room.

This extends further by the prices being super fixed. Yes I know most clubs have minimums so the girls don't undersell each other for dirt cheap, but in this club its next level control. Everything is priced strictly and all the girls have to stick to it. This also means that the free market can't do its thing with supply and demand. Although I was there on a Friday it was quite slow with the number of clients, and there were many girls as obviously they were expecting people, but the girls were not getting clients and this of course visibly frustrated but. Nothing they can do. They still have to charge expensive and then the extras.

Pricing (2/10: minimums are 50%+ more expensive than what I am used to in Frankfurt / Dusseldorf).

Speaking of pricing, its quite a bit more expensive than Dusseldorf / Frankfurt;.

- Entry 80.

- Basic room session 60 euros (some kiss some not, condom BJ, condom fuck).

- BBJ +20.

- Cum on face +50.

- Cum on body some asked for up to 50 extra some said it was included, I guess the management was not clear on this one.

- Did not ask about other things.

Line up (2/10).

It is very difficult to describe here, especially without making generalizations, but I shall give it a shot of course;.

- Did not count but there were a lot of girls / ratio to guys was healthy in terms of numbers only.

- Generally most of them were doing their rounds like robots and you can see that they are frustrated / not excited. One of them mentioned how she really wanted to go home but her shift wouldn't end for a couple more hours.

- Generally it was actually quite difficult to find someone to go to the room with, in fact I spent a couple of hours before I developed the horniness / excitement to take someone to a room, which usually happens much quicker. I had to go to the sauna and monger around for a long time.

- Mostly Eastern Europeans, this was a bummer for me because I never go for Eastern EU as my experiences with them have not been too positive in the past, especially the Romanians.

- 5 or so German girls, one was completely natural and petite but the rest were heavy on the makeup and surgery, mostly huge boobs.

- 5 or so Latin / African girls, they had the nicest vibe and attitude and chill, without them this would've been even worse.

Logistics.

- Food (1/10): there was not even a decent salad, just some cut cucumbers and tomatoes and such. Or sweets for that matter. Main course, for a while there was a really nice rice and seafood but when that was done there was nothing to eat, some meat that was dry. Something else that I can not remember but was not edible. First time I leave an FKK hungry.

- Getting there: walking distance from Westkreuz, and getting to Westkreuz from anywhere in Berlin is really easy. I think trains run 24/7 as I left like 4 or something and still found a train back, check google maps.

BTW, long time lurker first time poster on internationalsexguide, excited to contribute and read more! Feedback / questions are very welcome of course!

[Downandup]

When you consider that session prices were 60430 at the beginning, 15 years ago, 80430 not such a bad thing.

I said a year ago that I'd be willing to pay €75 or €80 for a 30 minute session if it were up to standard. Hopefully if Artemis has started this policy, it will make other FKK's consider setting a decent price for a decent service. I'm less than happy about the poor service I received at Sharks on my last trip and probably won't be returning to Hesse but staying in NRW.

[Member #4733]

A line up was very strong recently, lots of new, hotties of all shapes and colors. Management also seems to have cracked the whip on up-selling. Several girls said that all are told BBBJ Kissing, DATY 80430, across the board. That makes it compatible with normal Berlin private apt bordellos.

Yes, this 80430 is really true. Finally a very good turn for Artemis. I met Loira a few days ago. She is a 30 yo, blond, German. We had a good time for that money. She is okay but not all that special. Just to have a good start of the day.

Some hours later I saw Ginger. Ro again. She is my favorite and will do her again and again. Beautiful, nice, never cheating, always friendly. She is about 27, brown hair just on her shoulders, fully naked. Always around the end of the bar. She is there for a few minutes only. Then the next guys comes along. CBJ is good with her. Saves money. I came perfectly in her juicy pussy. I wanted to repeat her but some hours later Alice (28 yo, looking much younger, German, blond hair, legs a bit Rubenesque at the end of the bar) saw me. We had been talking before. She insisted on a session and so we went. I do not regret. Some people do not like German girls, but how do I love them. Her service is something like a professional GFE. Most importantly is that she keeps an eye on my dick. Whenever the sucking was too hard, she changed her technique directly. I have only experienced that with German girls, like Mania some 5 years ago. Artemis has a good line-up now, especially for January. But anybody who now races to Artemis and looks for things like they were some 5 years ago, will be disappointed. Not that many girls. Not that many stunners. But I do liked Artemis this day well enough and will come again. Ginger on my mind for a few weeks is not that bad as after party.

[TrumpDonald]

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[VaeVictis]

I visited Artemis after long hiatus to see whether lineup has improved. I picked Wednesday 28.01 which was not a great day to visit but was dictated by logistics. To explain what I mean, I am fan of lingerie but generally the lingerie choices girls use in Artemis is more about hiding the flaws than enticing guys.

Arrived at 18:00 and went for a shower after a long day and first thing I noticed was the green fungus-like layer on shower heads. Google search reveals that this may be related to content of water. This would have taken a staff member 2 hours to fix at max so I don't understand why would Artemis let the standard slip.

I had forgotten about lingerie day but this was a small irritant. I counted 25 girls working with equal number of guests. I may have missed some because they were in room but this was not that many girls to chose from. Of course with evening more girls arrived but generally it was a slow day.

Girls were having a slow day and it was reflected in increased frustration among some of the girls.

I took an African girl to the room but neither the name or performance was memorable. Left by 22:30. This is the first time that I left with 70% of my day budget unspent.

I must say that my first impression, compared to 2016, is that lineup is reduced and aged, to put it politely. Yes, there are couple of new girls that I have not seen before but there were lot of the older ones that were missing. Majority consisted of same old faces since 2016. I am not complaining about the age of the girls but the fact that lineup is getting bit stale. As I said, I have been long time missing from Artemis and stayed for only 4,5 hours one day so it may have been bad luck so if some can confirm or deny the observation I would be grateful. I will be visiting Frankfurt in March and Berlin I may but I will rather spend money in Frankfurt instead of splitting the budget between Berlin and Frankfurt.

[Member #4658]

Do all girls walk that way? Or at least most of them? It's actually a pretty fair price.

That is the point. It is in line with private apartment bordellos and independents. I was told A management put out the word in one of their all hands on deck meetings recently. So while some girls may try to stretch this, you can refer to this "policy" and see what happens. Chemistry always an individual thing and a girl can refuse or decide "OK I will kiss this ugly slob but only if he pays", so YMMV. But this price is now the baseline and it should be referred to in any negotiations.

When you consider that session prices were 60430 at the beginning, 15 years ago, 80430 not such a bad thing. But I was told management is trying to reign in some of the crazy prices girls were offering, and that is an important step in the right direction. Overall I think things are improving there.

[Tintin1]

I was in Berlin for work last week and decided on Thursday night (30th January) to take a trip to Artemis.

(1) A blonde Ukrainian, she was sitting on the left side of the bar and called me over as I was walking past. She was tall (probably 175 cm without heels), natural see-the cup boobs, probably mid-30's. She wouldn't have been my first choice but she seemed enthusiastic at the bar and I never like to wait too long to get my first shot off. First, the good: she had a great body with nice bouncy boobs, which were a delight to watch in doggy or with her on top. Then, the bad, of which there is a lot: she kept holding her hand around the base of my cock, both when giving BJ and when fucking, so that it was impossible to push deep into her at all. I don't know if this is a new tactic but I never experienced it before. She also let out the most ridiculous screams of 'OH YEAH BABY' that I've ever heard, honestly I know that the girls have to fake it but this was just comically bad acting. It was actually tough to hold it together. Nonetheless, it eventually got the job done, 60430.

I was in Artemis the same night and in a room with Penelope. Dark hair, overall dark tan. Well known lady. We are having sex and all I can hear in the room next to me is this OH YEAH BABY and loud loud screams of OH OH OH. And Penelope stops giving me a blow job and looks at me and we both start laughing. I mean, I don't know how anyone keeps their erection. It wasn't at 9 pm. More like 7:30 or so but I imagine it was either the same girl or one who was just like her. I kept thinking "What does a guy think when the girl is screaming like that and how does he hold it together". Now I am laughing cause I hear from you. It is hard to hold it together! HA HA.

If you go back, and you want good service try Penelope. Maybe not your type but a road warrior.

[Danny227]

Long time lurker here. I've got a lot of great information from this site over the years so decided I should start adding my reports to give a little back.

I was in Berlin for work last week and decided on Thursday night (30th January) to take a trip to Artemis. To be honest I was pretty tired even before going, but I always try to visit at least once when in Berlin. I arrived around 9 pm and left around 12.30. When I arrived the place was already full, probably 50 girls in the bar area alone and a similar number of guys. The lineup looked pretty good. Very few 10/10 stunners but many girls that I'd rate 7-8 out of 10. Lots of variation in age, shape and plastic. A few girls were pushy but I told them no thanks and that did the trick. In the time I was there I had two sessions. Honestly I cannot for the life of me remember the girls names, so some other forum members may be able to help:.

Do you know the name of the black hair?

[Ulver]

Several girls said that all are told BBBJ Kissing, DATY 80430, across the board.

Do all girls walk that way? Or at least most of them? It's actually a pretty fair price.

[Ulver]

Sorry, but I don't understand this sentence! Does this mean that mentioned services are supposed to be included in the 60?.

80 E for 30 min.

[PinballMachine]

Sorry, but I don't understand this sentence! Does this mean that mentioned services are supposed to be included in the 60?

80430?

Blue.

80 Euros for 30 minutes.