FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Pharisaer]

You know in the old days we used to end a lot of comments with "YMMV". Your mileage may vary. In this case. Who knows. Is this official policy. Is this for the slow nights. Or holiday weeks- when they look at the punter and think I'd rather not lose this guy so maybe 20 will make a difference. To me saving so little is hardly worth it. So maybe the point is to make you just say. OK I'll pay the full tariff. If it was 50 cover I could see showing up to see a favorite for a quickly if you could be sure she was free.

Yeah, YMMV. I remember. But (sorry don't want to harm you) it sounds silly. See Ninjas post below, quite good points. I'll check it & report back.

[Tintin1]

In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.

You know in the old days we used to end a lot of comments with "YMMV". Your mileage may vary. In this case. Who knows. Is this official policy. Is this for the slow nights. Or holiday weeks- when they look at the punter and think I'd rather not lose this guy so maybe 20€ will make a difference. To me saving so little is hardly worth it. So maybe the point is to make you just say. OK I'll pay the full tariff. If it was 50€ cover I could see showing up to see a favorite for a quickly if you could be sure she was free.

[Nooky Ninja]

In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.

If this is true (how can it be enforced really-different color bracelets being constantly watched, threat of extra charge on exit? It means entrance + 70 minimum for 30 min session = at least EUR 130-140. Many many girls in private bordellos or indie flats offer this for 1 hour. So double the time, better quality, less risk. A makes even less sense. All the local scene covered in Berlin thread and Bobo's per bordello threads.

Yesterday, 5000+ new Covid cases in Berlin, hospitalisation index up, all concentrated with under 40 years old. Post Easter holiday bump starting. It will come down slowly but only after a few weeks.

[FrankSta]

Thank you everyone for the helpful replies! I am planning on Artemis to actually limit risks, COVID I do not really consider a risk for myself. I think of Artemis as a safe place in terms of getting, cheated, robbed or beaten up. That makes me hesitant to go to private apartments. I would consider getting an escort into the hotel room. But since I am traveling with colleagues, I cannot pick up a girl in the lobby and what I read from forums it's hard to get them send up to your room in modern hotels.

I have been to Artemis several years ago, well before COVID. Back then I really liked the line up. Many girls with a "porno lock" which is exactly what I am looking for. So my take on it is, that Artemis looks to me like a very safe location, the place is suited to spend there some time, the line up might really be a problem from what you people say, especially since I will be there on a weekday.

[RoyPunter]

Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.

I'd say at most there were 15 guys spread out over the building. 12 girls. Given the coming and going of the ladies there may have been as many as 18-20 ladies in the building but many fewer at any time in the bar area.

I did a couple rounds through the building and came across a couple of cuties who kept trying to get me to take them both. Kataleya and Elmy I said I'd circle back. At the bar sat an Italian girl with too much make up. Mid late 30's. Dark hair. Fish nets. Another very tall super skinny blond with crotch-less body suit found a guy to take her up in under 30 seconds of chit-chat. Couldn't decide if she looked too skanky or just the right amount of skanky. Tiny A buds. There were 3-4 really heavy girls who looked like 20-49 pounds overweight.

Sat down and found a local German to chat with. He was really disappointed with the selection. After talking for a while and staring at naked breasts and butts I gave in to a Kataleya. 140 an hour. + 20 for uncovered BJ and 50 for CIM or +100 for anal (didn't go there). The oral I'd give an A+, Constant eye contact. Great technique and sex was a solid A. Had some running commentary on the positions! Didn't make any silly pretend sex noises!

Sex in every position. Light kissing. Finished in her mouth and she congratulated me on the amount of cum Seriously. She gave me a long talk on how many guys barely wet her tongue I've never been congratulated for that before. She did work hard to finish me off. Let me play with her pussy. Without good kissing I probably wouldn't repeat even though overall I enjoyed myself.

She said she'd been there under a year. She confirmed many people mistake her for Latina. Her face had a South American look. She didn't try to push me out after we had sex. In fact I was the one who got up as I was afraid I might fall asleep on the bed. hopefully I have her name correct!

Would have gone with Elmy for a second but took a sauna, and another drink then jet lag really hit!

So yes pricy for one girl but look you get off the plane. Taxi over. Have a drink 'find a girl, eat some food' or 'find some food eat a girl' and get back to the hotel happy. I mean easier than ordering a girl to my room!

Great report Tintin, thank you. Such great reviews are hard to come by. I wish Artemis comes back to old levels with the lineup soon. I guess I will stick to Globe and Frankfurt till that time.

[Pharisaer]

1. 90 for all night, 60 or 70 if you only stay for 30 minutes "for one room visit".

In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.

[Tintin1]

Mr. Tintin1 - thanks for your report! You remember the name quite correct: Cataleya. Spelling varies. Some good reports now. Maybe I have to try her too.

Reduced entrance fee? Surprise, surprise. Maybe you mix something up?

1. 90 for all night, 60 or 70 if you only stay for 30 minutes "for one room visit". Hardly worth it but I doubt they come in and drag you out of the room. More likely it's 30 minutes walking around UNTIL you go into a room! But for 20 or 30 Euros, I might as well stay, eat, drink and sauna.

Yes, Cataleya or Kataleya. I just say CUTE.

[Pharisaer]

Mr. Tintin1 - thanks for your report! You remember the name quite correct: Cataleya. Spelling varies. Some good reports now. Maybe I have to try her too.

Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.

Reduced entrance fee? Surprise, surprise. Maybe you mix something up?

[Tintin1]

Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.

I'd say at most there were 15 guys spread out over the building. 12 girls. Given the coming and going of the ladies there may have been as many as 18-20 ladies in the building but many fewer at any time in the bar area.

I did a couple rounds through the building and came across a couple of cuties who kept trying to get me to take them both. Kataleya and Elmy I said I'd circle back. At the bar sat an Italian girl with too much make up. Mid late 30's. Dark hair. Fish nets. Another very tall super skinny blond with crotch-less body suit found a guy to take her up in under 30 seconds of chit-chat. Couldn't decide if she looked too skanky or just the right amount of skanky. Tiny A buds. There were 3-4 really heavy girls who looked like 20-49 pounds overweight.

Sat down and found a local German to chat with. He was really disappointed with the selection. After talking for a while and staring at naked breasts and butts I gave in to a Kataleya. 140 an hour. + 20 for uncovered BJ and 50 for CIM or +100 for anal (didn't go there). The oral I'd give an A+, Constant eye contact. Great technique and sex was a solid A. Had some running commentary on the positions! Didn't make any silly pretend sex noises!

Sex in every position. Light kissing. Finished in her mouth and she congratulated me on the amount of cum Seriously. She gave me a long talk on how many guys barely wet her tongue I've never been congratulated for that before. She did work hard to finish me off. Let me play with her pussy. Without good kissing I probably wouldn't repeat even though overall I enjoyed myself.

She said she'd been there under a year. She confirmed many people mistake her for Latina. Her face had a South American look. She didn't try to push me out after we had sex. In fact I was the one who got up as I was afraid I might fall asleep on the bed. hopefully I have her name correct!

Would have gone with Elmy for a second but took a sauna, and another drink then jet lag really hit!

So yes pricy for one girl but look you get off the plane. Taxi over. Have a drink 'find a girl, eat some food' or 'find some food eat a girl' and get back to the hotel happy. I mean easier than ordering a girl to my room!

[Tintin1]

I am looking to go to Artemis too in the next 2 weeks. Very interested in the lineup. Is it not good due to Covid these days? My favorite type are German blondes which I found the best in Artemis among Sharks, Oase, Palace and Globe ZH. I will also post a report after going

Ok. Will post a report in a bit. Just back from Artemis (and a couple others) last week. First as everyone had pointed out Easter and Easter Orthodox weeks are tough. Some girls away. Others told me they could not afford to travel after such a long time without work. I did not see any German girls. Prices were indeed up. Talking with the girls at the club and asking about some of my old favorites the standard reply you get is 'they took a private space in town'.

Not that anyone goes to Artemis for the food but that too was not as good as the old days. Still if you have last minute schedule and want to try the club I found success, happiness, and very nice endings!

[Pistons]

For 250 e I could meet up with someone like these girls:

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...52/?list=fxfr6

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...8/?list=7uc4a3

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...7/?list=p683pd

Or almost this now well known pornstar here from Brazil:

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...43/?list=sadzo

While this girl is even much cheaper (at least looks hot from behind).

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...88/?list=k98aa

And that is just from the first page of results. Out of 7. Damn if all these girls would have worked from the same club instead of apartments! Artemis would be rocking! But something is clearly not working right at the moment.

So indeed, the FKK model is losing out right now in competition with apartment girls.

1. Entry has gone too high.

2. Lack of marketing.

[Pistons]

Good point Ninja, the 90 entry fee is silly in times when the chances are big you won't find anyone you want to go to room with. Artemis used to show lineup on their website, but now that is gone too. Probably due to the rules of 2017. But that at least gave guys some sort of comfort that they would find someone. Now unless you are a local visiting every week, it gets a lot risker.

230-250 e are at the price point where you can find the top lookers at the eurogirlsescort website. So it is hard competition too. And without the chance to advertise. Although I do wonder if there is some redbook website where the girls mark which FKK they will be working at. Like there was in Hessen or NRW a few years back. Though that really was half assed and not very updated.

[Nooky Ninja]

Nooky, what did you mean by risks, COVID? I am considering going to Artemis in the upcoming week. Therefore, I am really interested to know what the situation and the line up are like.

Yes. Obviously. Ninja post official Berlin Covid tracking sites below. Just read numbers: 2-3000+ new cases per day and still high hospitalisation rates. Remember also 1. These numbers undercount as testing more haphazard. 2. There will likely be bump up in next 2 weeks, as has happened past 2 years after Easter holidays. 3. Probably some girls away as E Orthodox Easter also late this year, so line up not likely to be at full strength for a while. 4. There is general fatigue dealing with Covid so mask restrictions now greatly relaxed. Will take some weeks to see effects, but UK experience says this will like cause rates to increase for a while. Then 5. You are sitting for hours in poorly ventilated, smokey room with people who obviously like to take risks, and girls breathing closely with 10-15 of these men per day. And girls, working in this stressed situation obviously under pressures. Said most of this in last post; saying again.

Then there is quality / price issue. A entrance 90 Eur, lots of sharky behaviour ( see German fora like Lusthaus or Verkehrsbericht) means single 1 hour session easily 90+140=230 (assume no extras). Much better local girls in apartments where 1 HR is 130-150, with much less risk and none of sharky upselling. See Berlin ISG thread.

In pre-Covid prime, Artemis was great. That was then; this is now. Easily 10 of the all time best girls there are long gone. Even most of fun, interesting guys have stopped going and this was part of charm-Ninja could always find characters to hang with and made many friends. You can ask girls and they will also say atmosphere very different now. Maybe after a few months with much warmer weather so you can stay outside most of time, it could be option, if you have never been. Artemis much better club when you can hang out in sun all day, swim, take jacuzzi but it is too early and cold now. Of course you can be lucky. But cost and risk now says nein Danke. People being exhausted and fed up with dealing with Corona simply does not make virus go away. Just think with big brain, not dick brain.

Pharisaer knows current situation and line up best - he can offer thoughts.

[RoyPunter]

No. Nothing near normal yet - maybe June. Maybe.

Impression now from Pharisaer maybe 50% normal. Quality is another thing. Many girls running risk (see below) need money badly. Ninja note and admit he has not been in very long time - poor ventilation in crowded, smoke filled room, no idea of other's Covid status, masks ha ha, all big negatives.
But read locals reports on other local german fora - same. Can play Russian roulette at home for free vs. 90 Euro entrance.

Using interweb, senior member can check Berlin weather (afternoon and evening temperatures) https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather...ermany_2950159.

And daily new Covid cases (e.g. yesterday 2800 new), age distribution (note under 40 yr olds), and hospitalisation rates https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#start (use translator). Coming down very slowly.

And make (obvious) conclusion. Berlin has many independents where quality good and risks much lower.

I am looking to go to Artemis too in the next 2 weeks. Very interested in the lineup. Is it not good due to Covid these days? My favorite type are German blondes which I found the best in Artemis among Sharks, Oase, Palace and Globe ZH. I will also post a report after going

[FrankSta]

Nooky, what did you mean by risks, COVID? I am considering going to Artemis in the upcoming week. Therefore, I am really interested to know what the situation and the line up are like. Should I go there, I would of course happily give a report.

No. Nothing near normal yet - maybe June. Maybe.

Impression now from Pharisaer maybe 50% normal. Quality is another thing. Many girls running risk (see below) need money badly. Ninja note and admit he has not been in very long time - poor ventilation in crowded, smoke filled room, no idea of other's Covid status, masks ha ha, all big negatives.
But read locals reports on other local german fora - same. Can play Russian roulette at home for free vs. 90 Euro entrance.

Using interweb, senior member can check Berlin weather (afternoon and evening temperatures) https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather...ermany_2950159.

And daily new Covid cases (e.g. yesterday 2800 new), age distribution (note under 40 yr olds), and hospitalisation rates https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#start (use translator). Coming down very slowly.