FKK Artemis - Berlin

[PayForIt]

So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.

In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.

1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.

2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.

3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club. There are lots of slim girls, and quite a few girls who are early 20's. Not as many as are late 20's / early 30's but enough. There was one girl I would have needed to see evidence of her age before going to a room with. She looked under 18 to me. I'm sure she isn't. And she was with her two older sisters. Yes - for sure and had it confirmed by other girls, but boy she looked very young indeed and as that is not for me I stayed clear. I did nearly session with her two other sisters but resisted. The options were more than enough. The club picked up by 10 pm but I hadn't chosen my first room. Remembered the very facially pretty and great fun Melanie (Ro. Dark hair) but her ass is a little heavy and she has no tits at all so skipped. Ended up doing only one fabulous room. More below. But overall, I'd say this was the most varied LU I've seen in Artemis. There were 5-10 women who would not score 5/10 being either very fat, old or very ugly. Not nice to say but true. Perhaps they would say the same of me! After that there were at least 30+ girls I'd score 6 or 7's. There were at least 5-10 girls who pushed at or achieve 8/10 status. IMHO there were no girls who scored 9's or 10's. But I'm pretty harsh on looks. Melanie is facially 8 out of 10 but her body brings the overall score down. But there were more than 10 girls I'd be very happy to session with based on looks, body and personality.

4. Was taken by a very tall blonde called Carla. Ro. Very nice eyes, very slim and really lovely sun-kissed body. Some but minimal tattoos. She was lovely to talk to. Sits on couches to left when entering the bar with her friend Francesca who sports thick glasses. Not as pretty but one of the 7's and a decent body. One girl I knew from old warned me off several very good looking girls telling me they thought they were all great performers and were known upsellers. Hard not to approach some of these who were actually very pretty and were in the 8's category. Carla was an 8 from the moment I saw her and had a great personality. Hour in the room. Early possible issue before the room was a reluctance to do BBBJ without receiving another 50 for it. I made clear that if she was not happy with 120 for 1 hour to include it, she wasn't for me. She didn't hold onto the argument and off we went. I had fully intended not to pop but just enjoy it and let the excitement build up, but this girl has 10/10 performance skills. Amazing BBBJ and very good at suggestions on positions. Silicones but it was hard to tell they were even when the bra came off and they felt natural in all positions other than doggie. Lovely big nipples (pierced. As were other places). Really fun girl. Added an extra and ended up agreeing 170 for that for 1 hour with the normal 50 extra factored into the price. Without it she was happy to do 120/ hour but I suspect she may have resisted BBBJ in that price. She was happy to include DFK (though we didn't really go for it much) and DATY which she appeared to enjoy. Her BBBJ and hand skills were off the scale and I couldn't prevent popping which she kept delaying which just made it incredible. At the 1 hour mark she hadn't finished me off and she told me not to worry. No more cash but was keen to finish the job. What was really impressive was her attitude at that point. Instead of rushing it (which I expected) she made a real meal of it, lots of delay, stopping etc and we overshot our time by a whole 25 minutes. I felt guilty and said I'd pay for the extra time. And she refused. Great gesture, she said she'd really enjoyed it and didn't want to rush it for me. What a clever girl not asking for more cash. Result? I gave her 220 anyway. For the terrific service, the extra included in the hour, the extra 25 mintues, and her fabulous attitude. I would definitely repeat and will struggle not to automatically gravitate to her tomorrow.

5. I asked reception if Lilia was in and was told not but that she could be tomorrow. Probably a ruse but I'm going anyway so I'll find out.

6. I thought parts of the club are looking in need of freshening up. But over the years I've never had a bad night in Artemis and this one followed that pattern.

I'll be back there tomorrow evening seeking out some of the 8's I didn't get to today. But safe in the knowledge that the club is far from dead, has several girls I'd very much like to see and the reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.

[Tintin1]

I wish I could! Her body was extremely sexy. Blond German from eastern side of Berlin. Lots of tattoos and freckles on her face. Man made lips. Have no name. Managed only one position. In CG she kissed my lips lightly, deeply staring in my eyes, and whispering still with tantric voice: "do you like my beautiful pussy? Milked me like a cow. Oh God, this is too much for me right now.

It's a good thing she didn't ask you for more money to deep french kiss you, in that state, you'd have handed over your wallet! I know I would have.

[XsylarX]

Even at palace I get better service at the moment.

What is the full name of this place?

I will go to Berlin next month for the first time. Trying to decide whether go to Artemis or somewhere else.

I would appreciate any help.

[ZimmerBaby]

I get it. And a nice bit of innovative thinking on her part. I'm thinking you should have asked for doggie, then when behind insert your cock into her ass without asking and when she screeched you say "oh I thought you'd charge 20 extra for me to forget which hole".

I wish I could! Her body was extremely sexy. Blond German from eastern side of Berlin. Lots of tattoos and freckles on her face. Man made lips. Have no name. Managed only one position. In CG she kissed my lips lightly, deeply staring in my eyes, and whispering still with tantric voice: "do you like my beautiful pussy? Milked me like a cow. Oh God, this is too much for me right now.

[PayForIt]

For old customers there are glimpses of lightness in Sheizemis, if you are remembered as a nice person, old price structure will apply though YMMV.

Tried a new girl. Told me "I charge 20 extra to forget the law " with whispering voice like a tantric lady. Got BBBJ, LFK and DATY. It was easier to accept when she added some charm to it.

I get it. And a nice bit of innovative thinking on her part. I'm thinking you should have asked for doggie, then when behind insert your cock into her ass without asking and when she screeched you say "oh I thought you'd charge 20 extra for me to forget which hole".

[The Cane]

Thanks for this. If she is anything like the stunning Melissa I will be a very happy man. Melissa remains my no. 1 for looks in all mongering in 30 years. Not the hottest body but her face is beautiful. Will hopefully meet Lilia. Will let you know. From the reports here, including from regular and senior members, my expectations of my return (tonight) are very low. This post gave a glimmer of hope! Thanks.

I would say that Melissa probably has the prettier face (although Lilia's face is very, very pretty), and that Lilia has the better body (although Melissa is no slouch). Lilia made me cum harder than any woman has in the last year and a half. That's no exaggeration. I hope you find her. And more than that, I hope you like her, and that she rocks your world! She did mine. Good luck, and happy hunting!

[ZimmerBaby]

For old customers there are glimpses of lightness in Sheizemis, if you are remembered as a nice person, old price structure will apply though YMMV.

Tried a new girl. Told me "I charge 20 extra to forget the law " with whispering voice like a tantric lady. Got BBBJ, LFK and DATY. It was easier to accept when she added some charm to it.

[PayForIt]

I highly recommend blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany (at least that's where she said she is from). When you enter the main room, she always stands on the far right end of the bar against the wall. That's her spot. I heard she had returned to Artemis, but that's already been a few weeks now, and we all know how these girls can be there today and gone tomorrow. She never moves much from her spot, and has no need to as she looks so good the blokes approach her one-by-one for sessions. Makes a lot of money! We both really liked Melissa at Scandalo in Malaga, so I think we have some similarities in taste. Check out Lilia if she's there my friend! I think you will like her.

Thanks for this. If she is anything like the stunning Melissa I will be a very happy man. Melissa remains my no. 1 for looks in all mongering in 30 years. Not the hottest body but her face is beautiful. Will hopefully meet Lilia. Will let you know. From the reports here, including from regular and senior members, my expectations of my return (tonight) are very low. This post gave a glimmer of hope! Thanks.

[Danny227]

It is summer time so lineup suffers with some regular stars on holidays. But club is still crowded on weekends with both sexes, and cannot be explained by all guests being constantly new ignorant, inexperienced foreign tourists (aren't they always, Mr. Trump?). You will be fine if you if you just keep wits about you.

Is A as good as it was 2007-2014 - no. But whole scene changed after new law forcing registration and Ninja think quality has suffered. Management not stupid and somehow the pool of girls applying has changed which affects whom they let in. And new law has given girls excuse to upsell, not helped by mongers who have too willingly agreed to this. But affects all FKKs. Some are up, some are down, things change constantly. Now NRW is heaven, before it was Hessen, soon it will be somewhere else. All an individual taste and chemistry thing, which is also why it is silly to recommend girls.

The negativity here is simply odd and narrow, which skews the overall sense of what is the reality. Many reports same people posting again and again and again and again and again, or others judging who have not been in years. So much anger and frustration - to what point? Somehow they think this criticism shows how worldly they are..

Ninja, I respect you as a long time Artemis guy, but you are very soft on the current situation. This has never been so extreme and it is worst than palace ever was or is. Yes, palace is a benchmark for extreme upsell.

[Danny227]

So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.

Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?

If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

Artemis is a club for visitors. People that go there don't normally read ISG, so they are not aware of the situation. Also, Artemis has less clients now than a few years ago, but it is still a lot.

Girls are over 50 any day and weekends over 100. The reality is that most girls are old. Silicone based. Full of make up. Nothing natural.

The reality is that girls work there so long, customer is not the center, they only care about money. They behave rudely. Because most clients are tourists, service is non existent.

Upsell is extreme, girls will not give blow jobs without unless you pay 50 extra. Many girls don't go to the room for 60. You can forget about service.

Even at palace I get better service at the moment.

Girls that used to be good in other clubs get to Artemis and become terrible. You are there to pay the girls. You are nit there to enjoy sex. Nothing is about you. All is about the money the girls get. That is the sad moto. Go elsewhere if you can.

[Nooky Ninja]

Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

It is summer time so lineup suffers with some regular stars on holidays. But club is still crowded on weekends with both sexes, and cannot be explained by all guests being constantly new ignorant, inexperienced foreign tourists (aren't they always, Mr. Trump?). You will be fine if you just keep wits about you.

Is A as good as it was 2007-2014 - no. But whole scene changed after new law forcing registration and Ninja think quality has suffered. Management not stupid and somehow the pool of girls applying has changed which affects whom they let in. And new law has given girls excuse to upsell, not helped by mongers who have too willingly agreed to this. But affects all FKKs. Some are up, some are down, things change constantly. Now NRW is heaven, before it was Hessen, soon it will be somewhere else. All an individual taste and chemistry thing, which is also why it is silly to recommend girls.

The negativity here is simply odd and narrow, which skews the overall sense of what is the reality. Many reports same people posting again and again and again and again and again, or others judging who have not been in years. So much anger and frustration - to what point? Somehow they think this criticism shows how worldly they are. But really, if they don't like club, say it once, and don't return. Part of club vibe also due to changing mongers, not only changing girls. You read older reports and it is different universe. Artemis thread used to be interesting, funny, lots of useful reports, good place to make and meet new friends. Now it is wasteland. Ninja say all this already many times before and so am guilty as rest, but say it to try to restore balance. My last words on all this.

There have been some recent good reports. So just relax, try one (power) night, not Sun-Wed. If not so great, go to private bordellos all over Berlin. Ninja prefer this option on cost/quality basis but different experience. Keep expectations in check, enjoy the pool and chill on warm day, and go slow to find 1-2 playmates who will be fun.

[The Cane]

I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

I highly recommend blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany (at least that's where she said she is from). When you enter the main room, she always stands on the far right end of the bar against the wall. That's her spot. I heard she had returned to Artemis, but that's already been a few weeks now, and we all know how these girls can be there today and gone tomorrow. She never moves much from her spot, and has no need to as she looks so good the blokes approach her one-by-one for sessions. Makes a lot of money! We both really liked Melissa at Scandalo in Malaga, so I think we have some similarities in taste. Check out Lilia if she's there my friend! I think you will like her.

[PayForIt]

When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.

So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.

Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?

If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

[Danny227]

Was there over the weekend. Terrible.

When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.

[Mr Ho]

Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.

I agree, and this is something Artemis failed to do. It used to be good club with beautiful lineup with mild up sell, but delivered service. Let see how Artemis improve. Does Kennan even care?