FKK Artemis - Berlin

[PumDiPum]

So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?

Who is a regular per your definition?

I was in Artemis more than three times. I find the toilet without any help and I was never in room number thirteen. I don't sit at the bar claiming to be from Italy and recommend helpless mongers a / my girl. I don't punch other mongers in the back who want to take a seat on my couch. I also don't walk around and approach girls to tell them that they should immediately approach the men behind her on the couch. I don't do twelve rooms per night to keep my side business going on discreetly. I don't ask girls what they did in the room so long with the guy for only 60 Euro. I don't ask girls what this one weird customer wanted again. I don't go to a room with my niece, to pretend that she is in high demand. I don't bone one off my girlfriends after her shift in the kino to show her my love. I don't need two brothers and five cousins to overcome the fear leaving my block and going scared alone to a nightclub. I don't marry the daughter of my uncle. I don't need Artemis as a rehab because I am depressed that I found nobody who is impressed by the bling around my neck.

I didn't shot Nidal. I pay my full entry fee. I am not a regular.

But I ask myself why you didn't have read that Artemis has up to 100.000 visitors per year. The Club is open for 361 days per year, which makes an average of about 280 guests per day.

Rudloff is locked up for scamming investors. So don't care much about numbers.

If you are able to ignore all the minor side roles needed to do the presentation of the scripted spectacle right, Artemis is quite empty.

[Danny227]

Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.

Yep, not going into politics and the merits of the travelling french man, but as pertains to FKK land, I agree with you.

[Tegelhof]

Well put, Nooky Ninja!

This should apply to other clubs as well even if Artemis may be one of the worst at the moment.

[Gino02]

NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.

Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.

[Member #4733]

Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??

I don't think the price is the problem. Paying 100 extra for anal is a choice. Paying extra for extra service is not strange. Especially if you have a good time. Your suggestions are a bit strange. In weekends each and every night Artemis receives a hundred or more new visitors who are overwhelmed by the scene. They will eagerly pay extra. What are you going to say to them: Don't pay extra, accept mediocre service and in time the regulars will have a better time? Really? Artemis goes up and down and the story of TheGreenArrow is better than most recent posts. I have been to other places in Berlin. Just believe me: Artemis is the better option.

[Optimist]

NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.

[Danny227]

Look, you and others can pay what you want, and you must decide value. Time pressure plays big role. But, since law change (which we now know is silly and not enforced) girls take advantage. Big picture is this. Look at multiple websites in Berlin -bordello home pages, kaufmich, Berlin intim etc. And you will find well over 3000 girls working here. They charge about 140 ish for a fine hour with most extras. That is competitive market price now in Berlin. For years, Artemis prices were about this level. (To be fair, prices for girls both in and outside A in Berlin have changed little in over 15 years so with some (very) slight inflation maybe 5-10% would be reasonable).

Since new law (which has not changed prices in "outside" Berlin market at all) some Artemis girls seem to be getting away with almost double this, if you include portion of 80 Eur entrance fee. They do this because conditions inside distort market which means some ideal notion of simple supply and demand do not work. An incomplete list. Imperfect, asymmetric information; barriers to entry and exit; oligopoly, collusion, poor enforcement of contract; too many buyers chasing too few sellers; and and and (sounds like conditions for Trump company). There is story that during a Logistics Messe, crowding was so bad and girls so scarce inside that they were able to charge 200 for 30 minutes and guys were paying. Management was not happy..

We should post this every day next to Apollo 400 offer from Anabelle until management decides to take action to save their club or globe / sharks / Goldentime time will decide to open another club in Berlin. I will even like it if oceans will move their club to Berlin.

[Danny227]

Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??

Said all before: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2256743.

Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:

1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.

2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick..

Ninja, my friend, but he had a good time. LMAO.

[Danny227]

My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!

LOL, he had a very good time. I can stop laughing from the description vs the headline. I got a lot of tan sitting under the moonlight. Oh men, you are so funny. Maybe someone else will have some energy to explain prices vis a vis good time and service. Google synonymous for this situation are chiefly, but not limited to chump, dupe, gull, mug (chiefly British), patsy, pigeon, pushover, sap, soft touch, tool. How come there are so many of you in a world dominated by the concentration of wealth and people leaving and credit. But he had a good time, LMAO. Nice dude, truly, a masterpiece. And the star Anabella or whatever her name is strikes again. Did you ask her how much she wants for anal 800?

[Nooky Ninja]

A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??

Said all before: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2256743.

Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:

1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.

2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick.

3. Complain at front desk about prices. Don't need to mention names, just that this overcharging is ridiculous. If reception hears this over and over again, they will take notice and tell girls to throttle back. If you go together in small group, impact will be greater. Say pricing gotten so crazy you will not return unless situation is fixed. Management will hear this.

4. Fill out suggestion form toward front door before reception. Write same about prices.

Some quiet resistance will change things as word spreads and as management hears it. Only 5-10 guys saying this every night would be enough.

Understand this takes away from a relaxed night of fun but would take really only a few minutes. And ice breaker to meet men with similar ideas. Crazy to just tolerate these prices. Push back on predatory pussy pricing power.

[TheGreenArrow]

My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!

A first time was very good when one girl ask 400 an hour and make you out in 3 minutes? Second girls 160 half hour must have kissing licking eating and all Apollo lust for. 3 it is 110 30 minutes and your first time was so very good. I am very apologize, you don't know FKK and you can't never give a what is called holistic review for FKK. For this money, you can go anywhere else and have some real beauties. Not Artemis pool of old women, silicon and tired from the life. Those women what in Artemis, put them in NRW and they must really work or to go home. Please don't it understand as attack Apollo, it is not and you are very nice person. It is only the Artemis trap for the people what don't know FKK real life. I wish you go to good FKK one day, I wish you will have a real the good time for your good money and then please you come again this posting and give us your review after new experience. I hope for my Kollege hier a perfect time with real beauties, please go even Hawaii, Living room, Aca, or GT to know what is real woman, real, service girls. Artemis it is a the funny joke on men not FKK. Yes, will be nice when the big boss there read this and make serious stop to this. Better go palace even get real women for this money not the greedy gold digging old silicon girls in there. Annabel it is the quite pretty girl not silicon old yes. Only fresh girl there. 400 euro 1 hour and it is blowjob only the hat of the cock and fuck is not to touch so the repunzel harre so she will not lose time on really shower after fuck and go direct in bar area to find new other sucker. Even now two old, porno stars sit in bar entry to welcome the manner. Ja danke for the 60 year old porno girls with all tattooed and all wrinkle face. FKK for grandmutter. I will make finish to this with only one question what it is the restaurant where you get the really street bahn station food and pay like the best restaurant in the complete world?

[Apollo12]

My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400€. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60€ but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160€ with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110€ for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!

[ExpatLover]

I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed!

Probably she was from France, never met any girl from Lebanon in a FKK.

[The Cane]

But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon.

I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed!

[Danny227]

Thanks man I understand now.

Very nice response Green arrow, thank you. I must say that Artemis is such a great facility, it is just hard to believe that this is the situation. Everything that is directly facility management is almost perfect. There must be a serious check on girls and not just some angry reaction that send 20 girls home. Has to a long term approach with taking the right girls because no where in Germany girls have the luxury they have in Artemis. Maybe send then to Leipzig for a weekend to appreciate what you hey have, LOL.