FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Grebe925]

This is a very neophyte question so I apologize but what are my options for getting back to the Museums area (where my hotel is) from Artemis late into the night. I've been there once before when I took the bahn to Westkreuz and back quite early, hoofing the rest of the way. The front desk will have no problem hailing a taxi for me in the early morning hours, no?

Thanks in advance.

[Traveller63]

Just back from a great weekend at Artemis.

Weather was good, lots of sitting out on the terrace watching the ladies sunbathing and frolicking in the pool.

Ladies were great fun. Mickey the Moldavian MILF, who never fails but deliver, a few others who were OK, but not memorable;.

And Sidney. She arrived late evening on Sunday, dirty blonde and very pretty, average height, great figure. I was tired, jaded and just decided to have one last punt.

Amazing experience, 30 minutes turned into one hour and I was left trembling. It gave the lie to my assumption that the attractive German girls are all opti-ficks.

Sidney is a real part timer. She has worked at Artemis for two years and this is the first time I have seen her. If you do get the pleasure, ask her how she got her stage name, its funny.

Great to see a pole dancer who is also one of the ladies, one of the Romanian clan. I didn't, but may do in the future.

Finally, met a Swedish guy and spent quite allot of time swapping stories and laughs, fine company.

Even the food was good.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Kosher Kowboy (prolific member of the Madrid forum but also frequent FKK attendee) tells me his regulars at Mainhattan have come up with a great idea. In the zimmer after 1st July. The girl will hold open a condom in one hand whilst giving BBBJ. If she hears the door at all, she'll stop and say she is about to apply the condom.

Girls are saying no change but insisting absolutely no comments on any forum about them (by name) giving BBBJ. Sensible and fair to them.
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What I didn't mention and she didn't either was the dangling ' matzo ball'; the price. They may keep the BBBJ going but they also want the Euros. I'll find out more this visit or at least what I can.

Yes, one of those girls told me they will hold a rubber in one hand in the zimmer (I guess that is German for room?); she was the only one who said she would do that but I am sure others might too. It is a good trick imo.

Perhaps the most prolific poster on this board pointed out to me in a PM service for locals and tourists is an apple and an orange and he is 110% correct; for this reason and the fact I am a tourist I was ' advised' by a local there I met many times at Mainhatten about 8 months ago maybe to load up on regulars and go to the same club as much as I could until July 1st and than hope for the best. So I made Mainhatten home base for all my trips to GER the last however many months. As a tourist he said it was my best shot as I don't have the advantage of the locals. Who was I to argue, he is German and knows better than I.

I noticed the rip offs last month listening to others in the smoking lounge and outside hustle the guys as it is hard to hear sometimes over the music inside. I saw an Asian being asked for and paying 50 more for BBBJ while the girl has her hand in his robe, C 'Mon dude, you just got hosed big time was all I could think, the minute she slid her hand in his robe he was suckered. Another Asian who is a pilot for a major airline in Korea told me he paid 50 E for a BBBJ too? WTF?? Easy Prey he was. . Also saw American first timers were being hustled on all angles as well from BBBJ upsell to girls pushing for an hour or any supplement to increase the base 50. Too many Americans think they will walk in the first time, pay 50 E (or whatever the rate is) and get a BBBJ and DFK and DATY and FIV and all the works and slam these girls pussies like jackhammering rabbits for 30 min straight and it just isn't the case. It's interesting, my first girl ever at an FKK tried to hustle me for a 50 E tip and gave her 20 E to go away so I put her on ignore for over 6 months and she pouted angrily at every time I saw her and would often ask why I don' t room with her and I told her she was an upselling tip hustler and she said ' what you give the other girls is fine. ' I wish more guys would stand their ground esp after the 1st as it's the suckers like the Japanese guy in that robe who will screw the others tourists; the Germans will be fine. It is their backyard.

I have only one year FKK experience under my belt albeit it 25 visits in one year roughly 75 ' zimmers' , more than your average tourist but ain't nowhere close to locals or preferred VIP status to any of these girls. I can only try my best and share with the forum what one can as no one is going to want to out these girls publically in posts nor should they after the 1st. There are so many variables that will come in to play that not even the best of the best can know for sure and certainly not a tourist from Texas; I can only prepare the best I can, put my best starting lineup on the field with a good bullpen and hope for the best.

Or, it's an airline ticket to Spain once every few weeks not Germany until greener pastures return.

Happy mongering.

KC.

[PayForIt]

Guess you got a point. It's just been one of my favourite parts of the FKK scene. BBBJ's have always been the defacto standard, hardly any need to ask for it (and yeah, getting one in the Kinos is also part of the fun). We'll see.

Kosher Kowboy (prolific member of the Madrid forum but also frequent FKK attendee) tells me his regulars at Mainhattan have come up with a great idea. In the zimmer after 1st July. The girl will hold open a condom in one hand whilst giving BBBJ. If she hears the door at all, she'll stop and say she is about to apply the condom.

Girls are saying no change but insisting absolutely no comments on any forum about them (by name) giving BBBJ. Sensible and fair to them.

Seems some girls will try to rip off tourists though with demands for a lot of cash for BBBJ because of the new "risk". So need to be prepared to make clear no more cash for it. If they get the bucks from some guys then that really could have more impact on BBBJ for all than any law.

[Sescbe]

Do anyone know what happened to Scarlett? Did she go to another club?

German, roughly 25-28, lots of tattoos, Scarlett tattooed over her chest.

[Carpaccio18]

I really wouldn't worry so much. Other than no BBBJ in the kinos do you really think anything will change? Some girls who have never been comfortable with BBBJ will say they won't do it and will rely upon the law. But I suspect not for long. Far too many in the lounge will promise it with a whisper in the ear. It will NOT be possible to police this. It would be a breach of any person's right to privacy under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights for an club staff member to burst into a zimmer to check. There is no offence to ASK for a BBBJ so the girl cannot report you. If it is offered you know you are being asked to technically break the law. Do you keep to every speed limit? Have you ever parked somewhere (even briefly) you should not have parked? People break the law every day knowingly. BBBJs will be as common in FKK clubs in July 2018 as they were in July 2016. The girls who say they don't do it will find they get very little business.

There is really no need for despair. It is sensible for any government to take steps to encourage safe sex. But enforcing a law like this would be far more difficult than enacting it.

Guess you got a point. It's just been one of my favourite parts of the FKK scene. BBBJ's have always been the defacto standard, hardly any need to ask for it (and yeah, getting one in the Kinos is also part of the fun). We'll see.

[PayForIt]

Despair. Better squeeze in a visit before then. After July 1 it just won't be the same.

I really wouldn't worry so much. Other than no BBBJ in the kinos do you really think anything will change? Some girls who have never been comfortable with BBBJ will say they won't do it and will rely upon the law. But I suspect not for long. Far too many in the lounge will promise it with a whisper in the ear. It will NOT be possible to police this. It would be a breach of any person's right to privacy under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights for an club staff member to burst into a zimmer to check. There is no offence to ASK for a BBBJ so the girl cannot report you. If it is offered you know you are being asked to technically break the law. Do you keep to every speed limit? Have you ever parked somewhere (even briefly) you should not have parked? People break the law every day knowingly. BBBJs will be as common in FKK clubs in July 2018 as they were in July 2016. The girls who say they don't do it will find they get very little business.

There is really no need for despair. It is sensible for any government to take steps to encourage safe sex. But enforcing a law like this would be far more difficult than enacting it.

[Carpaccio18]

New law starts on July 1.

Despair. Better squeeze in a visit before then. After July 1 it just won't be the same.

[UltraHappy]

Is BBBJ already a past experience in the FKK's or was it from July?

New law starts on July 1.

[Carpaccio18]

Is BBBJ already a past experience in the FKK's or was it from July?

[ExpatLover]

This was my first visit since late February, as could be expected the weather was cold then. No chance of enjoying the outdoor facilities. But last Tuesday the temperature was much more agreeable and as the train approached Westkreuz station I looked forward with keen anticipation. I was disappointed therefore when the heavy rain occurred before I could get out at the station. My hopes were dashed but I soldiered on anyway. After I had settled in I surveyed the outdoor area, the rain had stopped and the area was drying fast. Soon I was enjoying outdoor relaxation. On this visit I had two sessions before 18:00 hours and one after. I cannot remember any names. But the first was a German girl from north of Hamburg, towards the Danish border. Fair looking girl, lots of tats, 1700 mm high, well proportioned body, good attitude in the room, with humour. Good session. The second was from Moldova. In this case I wanted to forget her name, could not come with her, cut the session. Third was another German girl, similar description to the first. Good attitude in the room, with humour, good session. I often like the German girls best. At times as I scouted around I did not see what I wanted but I decided to be patient. This approach paid off in the end. The Kino down the stairs was busy. When I went in one guy in front and another behind were getting involved with their girls. It started to put me in the mood too. I like picking up girls at Artemis. Another good day.

Yes Artemis has some German girls coming from other lands, so limit the risk to be recognized.

[WarmStone25]

This was my first visit since late February, as could be expected the weather was cold then. No chance of enjoying the outdoor facilities. But last Tuesday the temperature was much more agreeable and as the train approached Westkreuz station I looked forward with keen anticipation. I was disappointed therefore when the heavy rain occurred before I could get out at the station. My hopes were dashed but I soldiered on anyway. After I had settled in I surveyed the outdoor area, the rain had stopped and the area was drying fast. Soon I was enjoying outdoor relaxation. On this visit I had two sessions before 18:00 hours and one after. I cannot remember any names. But the first was a German girl from north of Hamburg, towards the Danish border. Fair looking girl, lots of tats, 1700 mm high, well proportioned body, good attitude in the room, with humour. Good session. The second was from Moldova. In this case I wanted to forget her name, could not come with her, cut the session. Third was another German girl, similar description to the first. Good attitude in the room, with humour, good session. I often like the German girls best. At times as I scouted around I did not see what I wanted but I decided to be patient. This approach paid off in the end. The Kino down the stairs was busy. When I went in one guy in front and another behind were getting involved with their girls. It started to put me in the mood too. I like picking up girls at Artemis. Another good day.

[ExpatLover]

Thanks for the feedback guys: Uncle V, HB and F1 Fan. I must confess I didn't know food and beverages were included. My bad. In that case it makes a bit more sense.

Another aspect is the sex. I can't imagine the girls at Artemis (or any FKK) being very enthusiastic about it after 3, 4 or more guys. When I visit independent ladies many of them are in fact really horny and can't wait to get undressed.

I'm going to Berlin in two weeks and might consider a short visit at Artemis. I'll think about it. I'm just afraid of being turned off: by robotic and cold women, by bad music and poor food. I don't know, maybe I'm just being too negative.

Some girls have 10 to 20 guys every day, many women are actress, this is the part of the deal.

[Nr 71]

Thanks for the feedback guys: Uncle V, HB and F1 Fan. I must confess I didn't know food and beverages were included. My bad. In that case it makes a bit more sense.

Another aspect is the sex. I can't imagine the girls at Artemis (or any FKK) being very enthusiastic about it after 3, 4 or more guys. When I visit independent ladies many of them are in fact really horny and can't wait to get undressed.

I'm going to Berlin in two weeks and might consider a short visit at Artemis. I'll think about it. I'm just afraid of being turned off: by robotic and cold women, by bad music and poor food. I don't know, maybe I'm just being too negative.

I travelled to Berlin 5 times last year, only to visit Artemis. If you are very experienced monger / FKK-visitor you know the deal, if not I guess you will love it. Good food or bad food, good music or bad music, at the end of the day it is all about the women. After some nice zimmers you will forget about food and music.
After 5 visits I won't say I was bored, but I had enough and needed a break.

My experience is that the girls are pretty enthusiastic all day and night, maybe a little tired after 2 or 3 am.

Good luck!

[Antex]

Thanks for the feedback guys: Uncle V, HB and F1 Fan. I must confess I didn't know food and beverages were included. My bad. In that case it makes a bit more sense.

Another aspect is the sex. I can't imagine the girls at Artemis (or any FKK) being very enthusiastic about it after 3, 4 or more guys. When I visit independent ladies many of them are in fact really horny and can't wait to get undressed.

I'm going to Berlin in two weeks and might consider a short visit at Artemis. I'll think about it. I'm just afraid of being turned off: by robotic and cold women, by bad music and poor food. I don't know, maybe I'm just being too negative.

Yes, don't even think about it!

I will go there next time I visit Berlin. And would feel happy if not so many other men would think the same.

Relaxing and meet all the girls all by myself is a dream.