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  1. #12712
    Quote Originally Posted by Edisd  [View Original Post]
    Preparing to visit Artemis Again after a looong period of time. Last time prices were about 60 e / entry and 60 e / standar30 min. Don't smile! Now I understand that the entry is 90 e and the prices have gone up. Can you tell me how high they are?

    Any bit of advice. Another FKK instead Artemis?
    Entrance fee 90 Euro. Service starts from 70 Euro / 30 minutes CBJ and sex. There's no another FKK in Berlin capital area.

  2. #12711

    Berlin. FKK Artemis.

    Well it was hard for me to want leave Berchtesgaden and Mystic but I did and made my way up through Munich, Nuremberg and stopped in Dresden for the night on my way to Berlin. I had hoped I'the get a message from Luna and I'the have turned it around and went and saw her again and stay there again another night or two as I loved the area anyways. Sadly I think my number was put in her phone wrong as I am sure she would have messaged me. Oh well so onto Berlin I made my way there and was up there around noon or so and went to several places and checked into the Intercontinental. I was tired as fuck and not feeling it and heard Artemis wasn't anything amazing and had kind of wrote it off. But I figured fuck it I am going to let the Legend Steve down if I don't do it and not like I'm here often. So I ordered some food and then after an uber (which works but they are just a middle man but still nice).

    Uber picks me up and drops me off and I pay the entry fee and get my robe and towel and all bracelet. I like their automatic lock wireless bracelets. First look is there are a lot of dudes. Stairs are a good place to watch so I slide downstairs and don't see hardly anyone other than an old dude got out of the poll. Went back upstairs to the bar and it was quite a sausage fest and the girls were the opposite of pushy. Lots of guys sitting around and some girls but def more guys than girls. Found one I liked and went to chat with her at the seats close to the bar and she said sorry I'm on break. Ok then so I move on and circle the bar twice and one lady gets my attention. Not super hot but far from ugly.

    We chat it up some and agree to go to a room and I know this is a one pop night anyways so I wanted to be a bit more choosey but didn't see a lot better or anyone who wowed me like Luna. Not sure what I'the rank her looks but above average and nice ass. Said she was from Moldova. We go up the stairs and get a room with decent light and some nice mirrors (finally some mirrors and decent light this is what I've been waiting for with FKKs). She starts with a decent BJ and I'm already loving the visuals from the mirror. BJ was decent not amazing. She covered me up and went reverse cowgirl and then we switched to doggie and then back to BJ which I loved as she had her ass right by my head and I could look in the mirror and see her pussy and ass and her sucking me. It was quite good. She blew jerked me and blew me until I was ready to unload and I let her know I was about to cum and blasted in her mouth. She did one I hadn't seen done before after she spit it out she used a mouth rinse a couple times I assume trying to kill any germs / diseases maybe. Haha. Showered and got dressed and called my uber and went back to Intercontinental. Place isn't bad and not hard to find a chick hot enough to fuck. Girls were far from pushy in general and the one I did didn't up sell or try much. Just doesn't have the magic of Mystic. Not sure what it is but I like that place. Overall was glad I visited though!

  3. #12710
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    . . .
    If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. . . .
    But are there sex clubs with naked sex workers walking about, and bedrooms on premises?

  4. #12709

    Exactly!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    That depends on what type of monger you are. I've been to Dubai, German FKK, and Thailand. As well as many other monger cities.

    If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. Middle Eastern, Asian, Caucasian, and African. The only thing they don't have is Latin, but many Middle Eastern women look latin anyway.

    So why do I still come German FKKs? Because its still fun. Despite 99% of the WGs being from Romania, I can still have a good time.

    In summary, each place has their pros and cons.
    That's why I specifically said for a monger like me. I value performance over Dubai's edge on diversity of talent. Not interested in paying far more money for greater diversity but less performance! My number one Brazil offers all of the diversity I need, and although the diversity isn't as great in Germany, the performance per my tastes is far superior to Dubai (especially when it comes to anal sex). So much so that I have no strong desire to return to Dubai at all. Enjoy yourself!

  5. #12708
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me.
    That depends on what type of monger you are. I've been to Dubai, German FKK, and Thailand. As well as many other monger cities.

    If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. Middle Eastern, Asian, Caucasian, and African. The only thing they don't have is Latin, but many Middle Eastern women look latin anyway.

    So why do I still come German FKKs? Because its still fun. Despite 99% of the WGs being from Romania, I can still have a good time.

    In summary, each place has their pros and cons.

  6. #12707

    Artemis again

    Preparing to visit Artemis Again after a looong period of time. Last time prices were about 60 e / entry and 60 e / standar30 min. Don't smile! Now I understand that the entry is 90 e and the prices have gone up. Can you tell me how high they are?

    Any bit of advice. Another FKK instead Artemis?

  7. #12706
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Let me know if you decide to head back. Lots of tips but conscious not to Dubai the Artemis thread. What other FKKs have you done on your trip and how do they compare to Artemis?
    Nothing compares to Artemis. Learn!

  8. #12705
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    It's not that I totally didn't enjoy Dubai. It's just that for the mongering money, I would much rather go someplace else where I know I can fuck 100% how I like to. There was plenty to see and do though. I did lots of interesting "touristy" things in the daytime. Then at night I was "sex touring" (fucking) LOL! Including exotic pussy from places like Turkmenistan (yes I'm a flag capturer). And I agree that the optics level can be off the charts in Dubai, especially when it comes to the Russian girls. I picked up a hot "blondika" from Premiere. On the way back to my hotel in the taxi, she asked in a whisper if I had condoms at the ready in my room (and of course my answer was "yes" hahaha). As we rode back to my hotel I was thinking, "I cannot believe that I will soon be going on the down stroke deep up inside of this hot, blonde Ruskie girl from Crimea"! If only she had let me fuck her in that pink "pope-ka" (arsehole) of hers then the night would have been a complete success LMAO! Got to go to Brazil or Germany or even Spain for that haha!
    Let me know if you decide to head back. Lots of tips but conscious not to Dubai the Artemis thread. What other FKKs have you done on your trip and how do they compare to Artemis?

  9. #12704

    Dubai Optifucks

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Dubai. You clearly didn't get lucky on service. For me, for pure optifuk. It is unbeatable.
    It's not that I totally didn't enjoy Dubai. It's just that for the mongering money, I would much rather go someplace else where I know I can fuck 100% how I like to. There was plenty to see and do though. I did lots of interesting "touristy" things in the daytime. Then at night I was "sex touring" (fucking) LOL! Including exotic pussy from places like Turkmenistan (yes I'm a flag capturer). And I agree that the optics level can be off the charts in Dubai, especially when it comes to the Russian girls. I picked up a hot "blondika" from Premiere. On the way back to my hotel in the taxi, she asked in a whisper if I had condoms at the ready in my room (and of course my answer was "yes" hahaha). As we rode back to my hotel I was thinking, "I cannot believe that I will soon be going on the down stroke deep up inside of this hot, blonde Ruskie girl from Crimea"! If only she had let me fuck her in that pink "pope-ka" (arsehole) of hers then the night would have been a complete success LMAO! Got to go to Brazil or Germany or even Spain for that haha!

  10. #12703
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Although I understand where you're coming from, I disagree with some of your assertions. First of all, there's a tendency for mongers to attach the price of admission to the cost of a session, and I just don't think that's fair or appropriate. I mean, the cost of admission carries its own value. The gym, the sauna, the professional massage, the kino, the food, the soft drinks? The price of admission gets you access to all of that regardless of whether you session or not. We can debate about whether the admission charge is too high, but there can be no doubt that it comes with its own separate value apart from having sex with a girl there.

    Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me. I like European and Latin American women pretty exclusively, so that rules out Thailand and other Asian destinations. It doesn't matter to me if I can buy half the girls in the bar if I don't want 95% of them! And when it comes to Dubai, I found that the service level is absolutely uncompetitive with Europe and Latin America when it comes to kissing, BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Although I got BBBJs in Dubai, far too many of the girls didn't want to do it. And I didn't get any CIM or anal at all! That doesn't cut it for me when Dubai was the second most expensive mongering destination in the world I have ever been too behind Switzerland. And I would rather go to Swtizerland since at least I could procure the services I want in order to be fully sexually satisfied.

    In conclusion, I don't mind paying an admission charge in order to have access to the kind of amenities that an FKK club offers, and I don't tack that charge onto the cost of session since, in my view, the price of admission holds its own separate value apart from having sex at the club. Further, I have no problem paying 300 euros or so plus or minus if that gets me and hour-long session with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex (I'm often able to negotiate in a massage as a part of the deal too). For me that's value, and it keeps me wanting to go back. I'll never forget my earliest trips to Artemis either. The diversity of Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians, Russians, Hungarians. The choice was amazing, and the sex was great! Taking hot tutes like beautiful, blonde, Czech girl Marketa in her tight butt hole. Who remembers her? And it was sans all the "cancerette" smoke! What happened? Cough, cough, hack, hack!
    Your point about the admission having some value attached is not unreasonable. Depending on the club. If the food and facilities are good its ok. The gym in Artemis is good but I wouldn't normally pay 90 e for a day pass at a gym! But in a club like say Mainhattan, the entry fee really isn't buying much in my opinion. Hence I tend to lump it in and when I leave the club ask myself how much I just paid for the day / night to assess value and make comparisons. Truth is that many of the pay for extras in FKKs are not extras at all in other parts of the World.

    I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Dubai. You clearly didn't get lucky on service. For me, for pure optifuk. It is unbeatable. Places like Club Blu have a large selection of 9's and 10's which for me is unrivalled anywhere else I've been. Service is hit and miss anywhere in my experience. I get that you have specialist preferences, as do I. But mine are provided at no extra cost in Spain / UK / Thailand / Dubai / Switzerland (outside of Globe). Pricing in Dubai (and Far East) is also markedly different. Being ST (which can be up to 3 hours if you don't pop early!) or LT (all night and repeat in the morning). My favourite Mimi in Jules in Dubai is 1500ST. About 400 euros. But for that she'll go off to a bar for a few drinks first, then 2-3 hours without any payment for anything extra and looks stunning. 3 hours with her in Artemis with some of the extras would cost me well over 500/600 euros. 3 hours in Scandalos in Malaga with a solid 9 can be negotiated for 450 - nothing for extras and no entrance fee. This all means for me the overall experience in Germany is not cheap. But it won't stop me going!

    Thailand. As you say. If you don't like Asian girls it is hopeless bar the odd Russian. It's easily now my favourite place to monger. For me. Their service levels are just off the scale. Sure you get the odd bad apple. But on the whole these girls go the extra mile to please. That and the different options from Agogos, beer bars, soapies and my favourite Gents Clubs are just terrific. Recently had a fabulous time in a GC with four girls, stripping games, drinks, more games, food, and 5 of us in a jaccuzzi in the club and then into the room ST with all four of them after which they gave me a fabulous 8 hands massage for an hour! Left totally exhausted and drained (literally). Total cost. Equivalent of 400 euros. Sensational. The options in Thailand are just incredible. But as you say, you have to like the Asian girls without which it doesn't work.

    Tintin. I really like Salzburg. Chilled vibe and the FKK there is good.

    I've had a number of PMs about pricing and the majority are saying 100/50 and between 160-200/1 hour.

    I can sense a Frankfurt trip looming before Christmas just to check out the main FKKs once again. Missed the weather for Sharks and Oase. Doubt I'll be back at Artemis for a while. Pricing / no alternative / and the nail in the coffin. The cancer lounge!

  11. #12702
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates? They were always higher than any other FKK I visited. Add an extra or two and a room can easily cost 300+ which when added to entry makes one decent fuck over 400. I can get 2 hours+ for that with a stunner in Madrid or Malaga, or all night in Dubai with a stunner for that price. Probably take half the working girls in a bar in Pattaya for that price! Hence, Germany has become too expensive for my likes though I do miss the lovely vibe of an FKK and will undoubtedly return. Look forward to reading your other FKK tour reports.
    I just did a few reports (mostly places to avoid), but I want to say that as much as I bitched about Globe it was much better than Artemis and at 150 Chf all in except cim and anal it helps the wallet. The food was good enough. The girls were better than Artemis but about equal to Sharks.

    My next trip will be a revisit to Salzburg and a stroll back through some of the other NRW clubs that I haven't been to in a while. (Essen Koln Dortmund and vicinity). See most recent trip report on one of the outlying places. Forget the name.

  12. #12701
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Whilst I love Berlin as a City, so much to do and see, 90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates?
    I was there Sunday night.

    Current rates are 70/30 and 140/60 with CBJ. Usually includes DATY if girl offers it. BBBJ is 20, other extras are generally 50. A+ is 100.

  13. #12700

    Understood

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I hate smoke filled clubs so your report and that of Tintin made me think twice about a return. 2023 is the first year in those 10 years I haven't returned to any FKK. The pricing model has made it uncompetitive even with Dubai. Whilst I love Berlin as a City, so much to do and see, 90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates? They were always higher than any other FKK I visited. Add an extra or two and a room can easily cost 300+ which when added to entry makes one decent fuck over 400. I can get 2 hours+ for that with a stunner in Madrid or Malaga, or all night in Dubai with a stunner for that price. Probably take half the working girls in a bar in Pattaya for that price! Hence, Germany has become too expensive for my likes though I do miss the lovely vibe of an FKK and will undoubtedly return. Look forward to reading your other FKK tour reports.
    Although I understand where you're coming from, I disagree with some of your assertions. First of all, there's a tendency for mongers to attach the price of admission to the cost of a session, and I just don't think that's fair or appropriate. I mean, the cost of admission carries its own value. The gym, the sauna, the professional massage, the kino, the food, the soft drinks? The price of admission gets you access to all of that regardless of whether you session or not. We can debate about whether the admission charge is too high, but there can be no doubt that it comes with its own separate value apart from having sex with a girl there.

    Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me. I like European and Latin American women pretty exclusively, so that rules out Thailand and other Asian destinations. It doesn't matter to me if I can buy half the girls in the bar if I don't want 95% of them! And when it comes to Dubai, I found that the service level is absolutely uncompetitive with Europe and Latin America when it comes to kissing, BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Although I got BBBJs in Dubai, far too many of the girls didn't want to do it. And I didn't get any CIM or anal at all! That doesn't cut it for me when Dubai was the second most expensive mongering destination in the world I have ever been too behind Switzerland. And I would rather go to Swtizerland since at least I could procure the services I want in order to be fully sexually satisfied.

    In conclusion, I don't mind paying an admission charge in order to have access to the kind of amenities that an FKK club offers, and I don't tack that charge onto the cost of session since, in my view, the price of admission holds its own separate value apart from having sex at the club. Further, I have no problem paying 300 euros or so plus or minus if that gets me and hour-long session with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex (I'm often able to negotiate in a massage as a part of the deal too). For me that's value, and it keeps me wanting to go back. I'll never forget my earliest trips to Artemis either. The diversity of Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians, Russians, Hungarians. The choice was amazing, and the sex was great! Taking hot tutes like beautiful, blonde, Czech girl Marketa in her tight butt hole. Who remembers her? And it was sans all the "cancerette" smoke! What happened? Cough, cough, hack, hack!

  14. #12699

    Tried

    Quote Originally Posted by DasBooty  [View Original Post]
    You can always lurk by the sofa under the stairs. Girls will walk all the way down towards the wellness area but they will stop at the entrance to the wellness area which is right next to the big sofa. You'll also be able to catch the girls heading to the kino.
    I tried that approach one time before, and it really didn't work to my liking. First of all, I found that not enough girls passed through there. The kino is a better spot if you ask me. Also, I just found that sofa to be uncomfortable if I stayed there for too long. Unfortunately, the absolute best action at Artemis is to be found in the smoke-filled main bar.

  15. #12698
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Wasn't me. I was talking about a time when I was at Artemis during the dead of winter. Like you said, you can sit back closer to where the food is, but that's not a good vantage points to see and interact with the girls. And if you go downstairs, well a lot of the girls don't circulate down there. So, what's a monger to do? Hack, cough, hack, hack!
    You can always lurk by the sofa under the stairs. Girls will walk all the way down towards the wellness area but they will stop at the entrance to the wellness area which is right next to the big sofa. You'll also be able to catch the girls heading to the kino.

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