FKK Artemis - Berlin

[PussyLiccker]

Who are the 8+? Which girls look good and provides great services?

[Pistons]

Better you ask in the Living room. Kaarst thread I think.

Well in terms of LU I have about 6-7 go to girls at oase who are all 8+ in my book and all give great service to me at least (at sharks I only know about 2-3 girls in total that was 7 or 8 and other punters I met there complained too about the LU). I hear one or two of them get mediocre reviews from others here, but others provide good to most if not all I believe. In addition I have backups that try to flirt with me sometimes. Maybe I have a good rep at the club. I don't know at other clubs my rep is not that good perhaps. It could be a personal thing with a club as a whole. You know the girls talk just as much about us as we talk about them.

At artemis the girls probably talk the most of us out of any clubs. Experienced girls does that haha...

[Mr Ho]

I think most guys in here would say either sharks or oase at the moment. But I hear living room is supposedly good too. For me its oase because I find the girls there prettier and I like the mirrored rooms, but I do understand those who say sharks too, as it dees have its plusses. Such as the food, more relaxed and bigger atmosphere (its like 10-12 meters under the ceiling. Old warehouse) and the cluub looks very fresh. And on average girls are maybe slightly less sharky than at oase. But its a person to person thingy. Both clubs have average ages at around 23 I think (if you exclude one 60 year old at sharks). While at Artemis it is more like 27.

I did not find Oase to be good service providing club, sharks was promising. Living room? Is that the one near Düsseldorf? Is LU of Living room good and young? How is that club?

Artemis is definitely getting LU because some girls are there for over 5 years. And getting too many silicone and tattoo pro looking girls that makes LU of Artemis no different to regular working girl house LU. It is shame because Artemis used to have more diverse LU with girls also.

[Member #4469]

Discussed on Artemis website in English and here 1000000 times. 30 minutes with boy costs more.

Hahaha Glorious response!!

[Pistons]

"But I agree, Germans are the best for brothels with pretty Romanian girls and also for works on autobahns each kilometers".

For many years it was too old girls in Artemis. What do you traveling guys, who like the same as me, think is the best FKK?

I think most guys in here would say either sharks or oase at the moment. But I hear living room is supposedly good too. For me its oase because I find the girls there prettier and I like the mirrored rooms, but I do understand those who say sharks too, as it dees have its plusses. Such as the food, more relaxed and bigger atmosphere (its like 10-12 meters under the ceiling. Old warehouse) and the cluub looks very fresh. And on average girls are maybe slightly less sharky than at oase. But its a person to person thingy. Both clubs have average ages at around 23 I think (if you exclude one 60 year old at sharks). While at Artemis it is more like 27.

[James 006]

"But I agree, Germans are the best for brothels with pretty Romanian girls and also for works on autobahns each kilometers".

For many years it was too old girls in Artemis. What do you traveling guys, who like the same as me, think is the best FKK?

[Member #4399]

Thank you for the advice. I will use it. I wasn't troubled by sharks too much on my first visit. Maybe I've been to enough clubs that I don't look like a tourist. One last item. Are there many Czech girls there? On my last visit I met a very pretty, sweet, Czech girl. I can't remember her name. But, she was very nice, and I had a great GFE with her. She took her time, and never stopped me, or never said,"That will cost you extra. " I did tip her well, but she kept saying that she liked me, and we had good chemistry. I'm sure many girls say that, but I had a great time with her.

It is a bit of a double-barreled question that you ask. So I will elaborate a bit on this one.

If you still know the name of the girl, ask the theke. Theke will answer one or two questions from you but not too many. Usually by 20:00 she definitely knows whether a girl will still show up or not. You might try to call them and tell them which day you are coming. I never did that with Artemis, so I don't know whether it works. You might go through the gallery of the Artemis website and see if you recognize her. But beware: girls change over time. Sometimes drastically.

If you are looking for a true GFE than looking for any Czech girl is not going to help you. Better try to remember how you met her and try to repeat that. If you want to pay for GFE you might start to have a drink and tell her you will pay for her time while drinking. I know of someone who did this, but I wouldn't take that risk. If a girl talks with you for more than 10 minutes without asking for sex than you are much closer to a GFE.

I have not met many Czech girls at Artemis. One was sweet, another was gorgeous but wanted very much money for small extras.

So the answer to your central question is No. There's not that many Czech girls.

One more thing from the previous question: asking for a trio is a sign of low service. I always counter it with telling that I only do trios when I have been in a room with one of the girls before and that was good and that girl is vowing for her friend. Such girls don't exist because they will not share a good customer with their friend.

And most telling: with quite some experience at Artemis I still have lousy sessions every now and then but I always have at least one session that keeps my head spinning for at least one day after.

[Nooky Ninja]

Discussed many times. Need to just relax. Not such big deal. No need paranoia. Shark bait result from choice; just use common sense.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...196&viewfull=1#post1435196.

Also possible to tame - even real ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMMU6sJhnFM

[GTBoy1976]

Thank you for the advice. I will use it. I wasn't troubled by sharks too much on my first visit. Maybe I've been to enough clubs that I don't look like a tourist. One last item. Are there many Czech girls there? On my last visit I met a very pretty, sweet, Czech girl. I can't remember her name. But, she was very nice, and I had a great GFE with her. She took her time, and never stopped me, or never said,"That will cost you extra. " I did tip her well, but she kept saying that she liked me, and we had good chemistry. I'm sure many girls say that, but I had a great time with her.

[Mr Ho]

The girl promises to kiss you. In the room she say it is extra. She is not allowed to ask extra for kissing. So she asks you to make a proposition. End of story is that you get the kissing for extra (40 euro?) or no kissing.

Other girls promise to kiss. Once in the room they say they don't kiss anybody at all!

Girls change to low service level blowing if you don't want CIM.

Continuously changing to handjobs until you get tired of correcting them.

If you are in the room and there hasn't been oral (or intimate etc) sex then you can still go away without paying.

Theke will mostly take your side.

Once the girl has your dick inside her mouth or pussy you have to pay, no matter what.

So start with kissing first if you asked for that.

If that happen with me, I reduce the time to 30 minute 60 euro session LOL This is only way we can retaliate or fuck her rough LOL.

[PussyLiccker]

The girl promises to kiss you. In the room she say it is extra. She is not allowed to ask extra for kissing. So she asks you to make a proposition. End of story is that you get the kissing for extra (40 euro?) or no kissing.

Other girls promise to kiss. Once in the room they say they don't kiss anybody at all!

Girls change to low service level blowing if you don't want CIM.

Continuously changing to handjobs until you get tired of correcting them.

If you are in the room and there hasn't been oral (or intimate etc) sex then you can still go away without paying.

Theke will mostly take your side.

Once the girl has your dick inside her mouth or pussy you have to pay, no matter what.

So start with kissing first if you asked for that.

That's good list and a good explaination, and you hit the ones that contributes to the worst experiences (especially when something is promised, and no delivery). Also the intimate part locking in on the session.

Although you are not supposed to pay extra for kissing, that really doesn't stop girls from asking for it (this goes for other stuff than CIM and Anal as well). Like in form of GFE packages for example. Paying a bit of extra for get a girl to do more, and at the same time, the girl is guaranteed to get so much from you. As far as how good of a session you get from it, is to be found out, but probably more motivating for the girl to provide better services. So, this would be a case of, money motivating for better session. These are the types of girls that a guy looking for decent session with a 50, likely not going to get it.

Girls that do this, will try this on newbies from thinking that it's highest likelihood of them not knowing the pricing. They take a chance, and if it baits, they get it.

If stuff like this happens increasingly, and becomes more common, standards change, basic service level changes, etc.

Just out of curiosity, where have you run into these situations the most?

If the girl doesn't know who you, you are tourist or (as in your situation= you are someone who drops in now and then, you will be approached and the girl will try to convince you to go to the room. Sometimes they will be insistent and aggressive about it if they don't get clear message (if you say later 4 times some of them still don't get the hint*) Yes there are sharks at Artemis and upsell happens. How often depends on the girl (some girls will try to sell you threesomes even if you have said no 1000 times before while others will never try to do that).

Interestingly if you are honest and say that you don't find them attractive, the hell will break loose. I have observed this many times. The girls I know well and who tell me "this and this customer I would never look at twice in street" get deeply offended if you state that you don't find them interesting.

The clubs with high percentage of tourists, for these girls they are like bread and butter. They come so often, and chances are they are less inexperienced in dealing with pros. So, likely just easier to work them for extras, and then since they will not be attending as much, not much loss. Regular attenders, known, there are possibilities of steady income, and club gossips. Also, newbies do not know the reputation of the quick approachers. Have I missed anything? Or is there any reasons that has higher weight over the others?

[Carpaccio18]

Also, I wanted to know if it has any. "sharks". When I was there last time, the girls were not very aggressive, and would only talk to you if you approached them. I like it that way.

Goodness yes, the place is crawling with them. They like to prey on guys in front of the lounge bar. Hide behind it, you can still have a good view of the girls from there. When approached, say "just got here" or "just recovering" if you want to fend them off. If you are tempted by the girl any reason, try to small talk for a few minutes. If she is a shark, she will be off hunting for other prey quickly, if not you may get lucky.

[Carpaccio18]

Was at Artemis some months back, and was talking to this German girl who look like a total porn star, dressed like one too (dessous day). Mega blond and crazy big sillies and some sort of leopard skin tattoo on her. Anyhow, I was just done with a session and was chatting her up while recovering. Quick call of nature and she had vanished into thin air with some fast moving guy. She did warrant some attention for sure.

Anyhow, anyone know who I am taking about? And if so. Is she all show or is there a PSE waiting to happen if I chance on her again?

[Member #4399]

In terms of them preying on the inexperienced. What sort of things are they doing?

The girl promises to kiss you. In the room she say it is extra. She is not allowed to ask extra for kissing. So she asks you to make a proposition. End of story is that you get the kissing for extra (40 euro?) or no kissing.

Other girls promise to kiss. Once in the room they say they don't kiss anybody at all!

Girls change to low service level blowing if you don't want CIM.

Continuously changing to handjobs until you get tired of correcting them.

If you are in the room and there hasn't been oral (or intimate etc) sex then you can still go away without paying.

Theke will mostly take your side.

Once the girl has your dick inside her mouth or pussy you have to pay, no matter what.

So start with kissing first if you asked for that.

[VaeVictis]

I will be near Berlin next month. I went to Artemis about 3 years ago, and really, really enjoyed it. I wanted to know if the girls still walk around completely naked. Also, I wanted to know if it has any "sharks". When I was there last time, the girls were not very aggressive, and would only talk to you if you approached them. I like it that way.

Thank you in advance.

If the girl doesn't know who you, you are tourist or (as in your situation= you are someone who drops in now and then, you will be approached and the girl will try to convince you to go to the room. Sometimes they will be insistent and aggressive about it if they don't get clear message (if you say later 4 times some of them still don't get the hint*) Yes there are sharks at Artemis and upsell happens. How often depends on the girl (some girls will try to sell you threesomes even if you have said no 1000 times before while others will never try to do that).

Interestingly if you are honest and say that you don't find them attractive, the hell will break loose. I have observed this many times. The girls I know well and who tell me "this and this customer I would never look at twice in street" get deeply offended if you state that you don't find them interesting.