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10-31-10 21:32 #1831
Posts: 702FKK Ratings
Here are mine, I will only post here:
Artermis (12), Palace (3), Oase (2) - number of days I have been to each in the last year or so.
1. GIRLS (appearance) 20/25, 20/25, 16/25
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) 10/15, 12/15, 9/15
3. SERVICE (from the girls) 21/25, 17/25, 22/25
4. FOOD – 3/8, 6/8, 5/8
5. FACILITIES (other than food) - 8/10, 7/10, 6/10
6. CLEANLINESS – 6/8, 5/8, 5/8
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) – 5/5, 3/5, 4/5
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – 4/4, 3/4, 2/4
Total maximum points = 100
My totals:
Artemis: 20+10+21+3+8+6+5+4 = 77/100
Palace: 20+12+17+6+7+5+3+3 = 73/100
Oase: 16+9+22+5+6+5+4+2 = 69/100
I like all 3. Artemis is actually excellent except for the food and I would like an outside area.
Palace is very good but many of the girls are sharks so you need to look out and the staff are not as helpful. I think is in part because most customers come once in a while, not many regulars.
Oase is interesting. Its more difficult to access and the girls are not as pretty but outside is good in the Summer and the girls go out of their way to please.
Originally Posted by Charlie 123
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10-31-10 15:24 #1830
Posts: 2212My club ratings,
Artemis,Palace,Oase,Goldentime,Villa Vertigo
1. GIRLS (appearance max 25) 20 21 19 21 19
2. SELECTION (variety max 15) 13 14 12 13 13
3. SERVICE (the girls max 25) 21 18 19 23 23
4. FOOD (maximum 8) 5 6 3 7 7
5. FACILITIES (non food-10) 9 7 7 6 7
6. CLEANLINESS (max 8) 7 7 4 8 8
7. STAFF (friendliness max 5) 4 4 3 5 5
8. ACCESSIBILITY (max 4) 4 3 2 2 2
Scores:
Artemis: 83
Palace: 80
Oase: 69
GT: 85
Villa Vertigo: 84
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10-31-10 15:02 #1829
Posts: 199True Kimino, I gave a neutral mid score for the food based on selection.
My revised "weighted" ratings for FKK Artemis.
Girls 12/25
Selection 12/15
Service 10/25
Food 4/8
Facilities 6/10
Cleanliness 5/8
Staff 3/5
Accessibility 3/4
Total – 55/100
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10-31-10 11:41 #1828
Posts: 1061Artemis Fri/sat
Just a quick report on what has been going on at A in the past 2 days.
Quite a lot of people around. Couple of italians (from Naples) got kicked out for acting like aholes.
The day before, I resessioned with Raffaella and resessioned with Connie. Loved both, particularly the first one. Both reported other times.
Yesterday, sessioned with Carmen.
Said she was from Israel, tall, dark hair, blue eyes, piercing or something at the nose. Nice but nothing special.
Berna
Turk, black hair, dark eyes, not very tall beautiful body.
Started off really badly in the kino, was going to pay her just to leave, the rooms appeared to be all full. I told her we should check if one of the rooms downstairs was free, and one was.
In the room, and mmaybe because i managed to get her sweet side to come out a bit, she really changed. It ended up we had a real nice session, anal, cim, the whole kit. Costed a fortuna but was really great, unexpected.
Will be there today, and fly away tomorrow morning.
Anyone coming in?
Ciao
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10-31-10 10:44 #1827
Posts: 2983Angus' Artemis Ratings
Surprisingly Artemis is really the only club I am qualified to rate given the guidelines of the survey. So here goes. And I am also having to mention that my visits are much less frequent of late so take that into cnsideration
1. GIRLS (appearance) – 20/ 25 points
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) –10/15 points
3. SERVICE (from the girls) – 18/25 points
4. FOOD – 5/8 points
5. FACILITIES (other than food) – 8/10 points
6. CLEANLINESS – 7/ 8 points
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) –4/5 points
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – 3/4 points
Total=75/100
Over all I like Artemis. Recently though I have been privy to some of their behind the scenes workings and can say that there is certainly room for improvement but little incentive to improve. They are the only FKK game in town after all. Let's just say that were I running things (easy to say) I might put a little more effort into how they hire the girls. The girls are, after all, the backbone of the operation.
AM
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10-31-10 10:28 #1826
Posts: 1000FKK Face Off
Originally Posted by Charlie 123
Charlie this is a roaring good idea on many levels. Your structured survey method (the weighting) and incentive package are inspired. Here is my take:
(apologies for alignment problems-pulled off an Excel table but does not seem to help)
Charlie´s Survey Item Artemis Palace Oase
1. GIRLS (appearance max 25) 17 20 10
2. SELECTION (variety max 15) 12 15 7
3. SERVICE (the girls max 25) 20 18 15
4. FOOD – (maximum 8) 5 8 2
5. FACILITIES (non food-10) 8 10 7
6. CLEANLINESS – (max 8) 8 8 4
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness 5) 5 4 3
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport -max 4) 4 3 1
Totals:
Artemis 79
Palace 87
Oase 49
Have been to all over 5 times each, and home base, well over 5.....
Of course totally subjective. One difficulty with all this is that some of our favorites sort of pull up the overall impression-difficult to keep it in balance. Or certain aspects - like Oase outside is spectacular in the summer, but the dindgey (apart from the best jacuzzi of all) inside the other 8 months....
I do wish Artemis would up its game..I am friendly with a number of the management staff and like them a lot as people, but the quality of the girls team is going down, and the food...(I´m not there to eat, but really...it ought to at least be healthy to keep fit thru the night-better for all as it´s more money cuming in). We will see what the new facilities bring...Last edited by Rocketboy0; 10-31-10 at 10:37. Reason: Alignment of numbers in table
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10-31-10 02:29 #1825
Posts: 1061Ciao.
How can you give a vote for the food if you didn't even try it?
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10-30-10 23:40 #1824
Posts: 385Ratings
Hi
Here is my own set of ratings for fkk artemis:.
Girls 19/25
Selection 11/15
Service 17/25
Food 6/8
Facilities 9/10
Cleanliness 6/8
Staff 4/5
Accessibility 3/4
Total – 75/100
Charlie
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10-30-10 23:18 #1823
Posts: 385FKK Survey
Hi,
In a recent post on the Oase thread, I asserted that ‘Taking all factors into consideration, Artemis remains the premier large FKK club in the nation’
I wonder to what extent that viewpoint is shared by experienced FKK attendees on this board? – I suspect that I am in the minority.
Today in the Berlin thread poster Fkknomad gave the following rating in various categories for Artemis based on what I understand to have been his first visit to the club earlier this week:
My overall FKK Artemis Rating.
• Girls (looks, youth, slim) - 5/10
• Selection (Quantity and variety of non Romanian) - 6/10
• Service - 4/10
• Food - 5/10
• Facilities - 6/10
• Cleanliness - 6/10
= 32/60
I have taken the liberty of deciding to undertake a survey of contributors to these pages, in order to ascertain the most popular/best FKK club in Germany.
Whilst I broadly agree with Fkknomad on the selection of categories, I don’t reckon that they are all equally important and I do not feel that they should all carry equal weighting. I do not believe, for instance, that ‘Girls’ and ‘Food’ are equivalent considerations in assessing the merit of an FKK club. So, I have devised a slightly different scoring system to reflect the priorities as I envisage them: -
1. GIRLS (appearance) – maximum 25 points
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) – maximum 15 points
3. SERVICE (from the girls) – maximum 25 points
4. FOOD – maximum 8 points
5. FACILITIES (other than food) – maximum 10 points
6. CLEANLINESS – maximum 8 points
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) – maximum 5 points
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – maximum 4 points
Total maximum points = 100
This scoring system affords 65% of the weighting to the ladies and 35% to extraneous aspects of the establishment, which feels about right to me. No doubt others will have their own ideas as to how these categories ought to be weighted, but I didn’t want to undertake a survey as to how I should structure the survey……..
I invite all experienced mongers to rate the various FKK’s that they have visited, and I will collate the evidence at the end of November and post the collective view of this board during the first week of December.
I am going to impose a few conditions for qualification, in order to effect some statistical integrity to this survey: -
a) The ratings of anybody with less than 20 posts to his name will not be taken into account unless he can clarify why his view should be factored in.
b) As this is to be a comparative exercise, unless you have visited at least 2 (and preferably 3) FKK clubs in central Europe, please do not proffer your rating.
c) Please confine your ratings to clubs that you have visited at least twice – anybody can have a shitty experience at a club on a single visit. An exception to this qualification is afforded to Fkknomad, as the inspiration for my survey, who is cordially invited to resubmit his rating for Artemis on my prescribed scale.
I am submitting this posting on each of the individual threads pertaining to the major FKK clubs. If you decide to post a rating, please do so on the thread designated for that thread – i.e. your rating for FKK Palace should appear in the FKK Palace thread, not wherever you happened to read this posting.
I have myself visited about ten clubs in Germany and Switzerland to date, but I have made multiple visits to only four of them, and I will post my own ratings on those four later tonight
Consumer surveys of this sort usually have some sort of incentive attached to them, in order to attract responses. In keeping with this tradition, at the end of the month I shall conduct a random draw from the names of those persons who have replied. I will announce the winner of that draw and I shall pay the entry fee for that person to visit the German FKK club of his choice on any date before Christmas. If for any reason that person is unable to visit a club before Christmas (shame on him – what sort of undeserving monger is he?!), then he may nominate any other board contributor of his choice (who has posted at least 20 times this year) to be the beneficiary of this prize.
I hope that I am not breaking any forum rules with this exercise – I just thought it would be interesting to see what the consensus view is about the relative merits of the various clubs that we attend.
Best,
Charlie
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10-30-10 17:56 #1822
Posts: 164Originally Posted by Angus Magee
Monday and Tuesday will now be dedicated to mongering in Berlin. Reports will follow. In case anybody needs to contact me in Artemis, I will be the guy in a bathrobe sitting either in the bar or on a couch or in the cinema, occasionally drifting to a room with a spinner or two in tow... Feel free to tap me on the shoulder.
Password will be "In quest for the always elusive perfect night at an FKK".
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10-30-10 17:54 #1821
Posts: 385Originally Posted by Angus Magee
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10-30-10 17:15 #1820
Posts: 199Very easy to find Artemis after Angus Mcgee's video. I should have taken my time to choose but I felt crunched for time to try for 2 SOG and get back quickly. Artemis was way to smokey in the dark cramped main room. Unusual setup being on 4-5 floors in a suburban setting. All connected by a large spiral stair. Spa area and large kino and quiet bar are in the basement. Lockers (funny main showers and my naked ass could be seen from the front glass door), large bar in the Main room small kino and restaurant (never even tried the food). Upstairs are bedrroms with a keytag system. No outdoor space at all.
Katiana Ro 5'5" very smiley pretty face upon intro but later none.....Light brown hair to mid back 5'4" 130lbs 36B 29 36. 22 years old. Limited service standards with no LFK/DFK or BL or DATY. Some TS. A real dissappointment unless I just got sharked. At least she didn't jump to bbj right away but awkward light caresses without kissing doesn't do much for me. Katiana had a BIG box that was over sized and over lubed. Her only response was when we fucked she started to groan but with the dreaded head turn. MPOS FS was available but I stuck to mish to get it over with. No repeat for Katiana
Afterwards my proper assessment of the Artemis SPs is mostly older compared to Oase or World or even Palace. Mostly Romanians again but really dumpy shaped fat asses. Some with guts and 50%+ with fakes. Old hippy chicks everywhere. Maybe 3 girls of doable age. Perhaps 3 pretty faces but sharky. Of the 2 slim girls both were uggers. With the beautiful girls walking around Berlin I would have expected a much better selection.
I left disgruntled and after a couple hours after an unsatisfying 1st SOG and without a 2nd sog. 80€ entry, 60€ session and 11€ cab ride. About $230. No repeat for Artemis.
My overall FKK Artemis Rating.
• Girls (looks, youth, slim) - 5/10
• Selection (Quantity and variety of non Romanian) - 6/10
• Service - 4/10
• Food - 5/10
• Facilities - 6/10
• Cleanliness - 6/10
= 32/60
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10-30-10 16:12 #1819
Posts: 702There is a picture of Siana or Sienna on the website with Conni, i think. She is hot and performs, also very nice.
Nina is cute but have never been there, thanks for the post.
Originally Posted by Banner123
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10-29-10 22:27 #1818
Posts: 1061Originally Posted by Dirtydog 1975
Totally no hair, a bit tanned, in the forties, 180, definitely robust, some say fat :-) I wear personal slippers. Google says the translation is thong. ?!?
Ehm... I probably look very italian :-)
I wear the watch on the right arm.
It will be great meeting you.
Ciao
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10-29-10 20:51 #1817
Posts: 2983Originally Posted by Kurre
Just tell them when you leave that you plan to return and they will note your details and give you a new wristband when you come back. This is done all the time. Just ask Charlie
AM