FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Bearsk]

There are twins at GT ... notwithstanding my last post http://www.InternationalSexGuide.inf...eply&p=1061419
that's interesting ...

I've fucked the twins(Nani & Hani) at GT a few times ...

Nille

[Bearsk]

This all sage advice and also from Mr. Copenhagen.

I think you need a really good reason to do a dupla at Artemis but its just MHO.
I generally prefer to focus on the one girl and she on me for the time.
In additional, CIM is OK but generally COF messes the girl makeup up, impairs her vision and leaves your wanting to wipe her down and unsure of kussen etiquette.
As for three girls, Charlie you are a total immoral pervert and I now understand why you considered the Royal Navy and get weeping when you hear Rod Stewart sing: "I am Sailing".... away again

Its rare that you find 2 girls that give you equal pleasure and work together. Mary and Siena did pretty good job for me a few months ago, but then came back and took then each in sequence for good measure (and enjoyed them both). I had a helluva 2 sessions with Gaby as well and felt like I needed to get on a exercise program to get close to keeping up - cant imagine the use of another girl there.

Outside of Artemis, I have done several duplas. Its usually been because the 2 girls are friends and appealing, but more often its because the girl I want is nervous, young or without lingua in which case taking a friend will ensure we connect. It often means getting back in contact with the girls the next day. This useful in Thailand and China ... but not so applicable to Artemis, where I am committed to doing Ein Stunde mit keine extra (apologies again).

We digress, sorry, Charlie the three girl story, thanks ... was it the day the Romanian were giving you a really hard time?

Hi Kimino

Hope you're well.

The field of 2-girl sessions happens to be something of an area of special interest to me. I started off my sex-life this way. When I was 18 I had a girlfriend who was 29 and we were together for 4 years. She in turn had a girlfriend who was 15 years older than her and who was also the mistress of a well-known 1970's pop singer (whom I won't identify here for obvious reasons). Naturally, 3-way parties were the order of the day for much of those 4 years that we were together and thus begun my sex education. Consequently I have had something of a penchant for this variation ever since, and whilst it can be very mundane and ordinary at times, when it clicks it's just GREAT! The only way to fly, IMHO.

P4P-wise, I have done a couple of dozen or so such sessions at Artemis and similar places. Sometimes it's been pretty good, often a disappointment. Last week I did my debut session with 3 girls at Artemis. Something I'd often fantasised about but never before tried. As it happens, it was OK but not special. Certainly nothing as exciting as it appears in porn films to be, but I strongly suspect that one has to be rather more of a stud than I am to pull off this particular stunt. Hopefully we will meet again later this month when you are in Berlin and I will give you the gory details of my 3-girl experience if you are interested.

As regards 2-girl scenes, I have a couple of golden rules that have served me well and may prove useful to anybody who is contemplating a 'menage-a-trois' but is nervous about how it will turn out in reality:

1) NEVER allow yourself to be picked up by two unknown girls offering a double act. They're probably just looking for a double sucker

2) These things work best when you know one of the girls already, preferably as a regular customer of hers and with whom you already have a good client relationship. She will have a vested interest in ensuring that you have a good time and 'protect' you

3) Allow your 'known' girl to pick the third member of the team. The chemistry between the girls is the KEY element in a successful trio. Don't reckon your chances of matchmaking between 2 girls that take your eye, that's not the way to do it. 'Your girl' will be much better able to interpret and convey to the other girl your preferences and ambitions for the session than you will be able to. You asked 'what if you don't like the friend'. Well, my suggestion would be to either go with it anyway, or to mention quietly to 'your girl' that her selection doesn't do it for you and ask her if she's got anybody else. There won't be many girls that she will feel comfortable with that also meet your visual criteria, that's why these things often turn out to be a disappointment. I just about never turn down the chick that 'my girl' recommends, on the basis that a good sexual rapport between the two girls will impact more greatly on the quality of the session than any premium in visual experience that I get from selecting a prettier girl. Chemistry is everything in sex in my view, but with 2-girl sessions this is doubly so.

4) In my experience, there is a huge difference between 'lesbi show' and 'lesbi sex'. If you want to have the girls enthusiastically licking each other out then first you should check with 'your girl' that she's into all that, and then invite her to procure a like-minded accomplice. Many of these girls are strictly hetero, but will do a 2-girl 'blasen und fikken' routine if pressed. Some won't do it at all. Know what you want, establish that 'your girl' will comply, and convey clearly to her that the other girl must also deliver. That way you get the best chance of receiving the service that you are expecting (and paying for).

5) Don't be shy to discuss in precise detail with 'your girl' exactly what is going to be on the menu and what the cost will be. Paying good money for shitty sessions at Artemis is always frustrating but when it's 'double-rates' it is even more painful.

One good suggestion for a duo who work nicely together is Gabitza and her slutty blond Hungarian friend (can't remember her stage name – begins with 'T'). Selma and Katja are a good double-act if you like the MILF look. Ella and anybody she recommends would also be fine I reckon

Good luck.

Charlie

[Angus Magee]

The field of 2-girl sessions happens to be something of an area of special interest to me. I started off my sex-life this way. When I was 18 I had a girlfriend who was 29 and we were together for 4 years. She in turn had a girlfriend who was 15 years older than her and who was also the mistress of a well-known 1970's pop singer (whom I won't identify here for obvious reasons). Naturally, 3-way parties were the order of the day for much of those 4 years that we were together and thus begun my sex education. Consequently I have had something of a penchant for this variation ever since, and whilst it can be very mundane and ordinary at times, when it clicks it's just GREAT! The only way to fly, IMHO.

I was hoping that Charlie would sign in on this one as I know this to be sort of his area of expertise. This report could in fact serve as the duo seekers Bible in that it guides the monger and, if followed, will guarantee entry in to the pooner's Kingdom of Duo Heaven eventually

Hallelujah and pass the holy wafers & wine . I is reborn, Amen.

Got to admit I am dying to know just who the 1970's pop singer is...

AM

[Nille Copenhagen]

The one and only time I tried a session with 2 girls at Artemis was a disaster. That was long time ago, one of my first visits at Artemis.

I was trapped by 2 very nice looking Polish blondes inviting me to have great fun with them in the room.

I accepted and as soon as we entered the room they both started moaning in pleasure (I really don't stand that crap). After that, while one was almost kissing me, without really doing it, the other genius had slipped me a condom and was starting a covered BJ.

I got immediately pissed off and asked if they where joking or something.

The girl said she used the condom because I was not clean (impossible, believe me), so I told them I was leaving and the said they would call the security, it ended I paid only one girl and we all left.

Anyway, seeing it now, there are things one should pay attention to, IMHO:

1. I don't usually session with girls that come up to me and insist a lot, specially if extremely good looking.

2. I explicitly ask things with girls I never sessioned with BEFORE going to the room. This includes if she does cim or whatever I'm into.

3. I start the evenings taking my risks with girls I don't know, and play safer later on with girls I'm sure I'll have fun. Having the worst session with the last girl might spoil my evening.

But what's the strategy if you want to session with 2 girls?

First thing that come to my head is to get one girl you already know and feel comfortable with and ask her if she has a friend. But what if you don't like the friend?

Any Guru has some suggestions?

Ciao

My strategy:

-Find 2 girls you click with or at least one.

-Go for 1 hour, ½ hour is too short for fun with 2 girls.

-Agree on the program, who should get the CIM bonus or both.

As you can see it can be an expensive affair.

-Ensure that both girls should be active to give you pleasure, like both girls give you BJ at the same time or one give you BJ while you DATY the other, or you DATY one and fuck the other.

If you don't agree in advanced, the other girl is just lying passively and look bored while you fuck the other. I have tried it!

Then I asked her to play with her pussy while waiting to be fucked

-Agree if Lesbo show is included or not, and for how long time, normally it costs extra.

The girls normally ask you to change condom if you swap between them.

So have plenty of condoms, I've fucked the twins(Nani & Hani) at GT a few times and even they are sisters they wanted me to change condom when swapping between them.

Nille

[Nille Copenhagen]

I mean Nordrhein-Westfalen (NRW). Especially the area around Düsseldorf and north-east from there. Examples:

GoldenTime, Brüggen
LivingRoom, Kaarst
Villa Vertigo, Grefrath
Planet Happy Garden, Tönisvorst
and others.
(all above with 50€ entrance, 50€/30min, next 30 for 25€, 25€ CIM, 50€ anal
Acapulco, Velbert (between Wuppertal and Essen, 35€ entrance, before 1pm only 25€, 40€/30min, 25€ CIM, 50€ anal)

HB

There are also clubs around Cologne: Samya, Brends, SalonRouge.

If you are into sex party go to team-tabulos in Mönchengladbach anal/sandwich is included in the flatrate.

Nille

[Nille Copenhagen]

I don't think you can. This is where FKK starts to imitate "real" life as you just have to put in the effort and find a girl who you click with and see if she likes anal. It is where the whole p4p thing breaks down a bit as you are looking for a very personal service from a girl with whom you really have no commitment further than the half hour or hour room time for which you pay.commitment is a dirty word for us mongers but as I see it you have to have some, at least to the hobby, to find these special services and have them be good. That is, you have to show up, cash in pocket and your fun personality shining. Then you find a girl who will cave to this and open her rosebud willingly, for the €100.

Exactly! The high price for anal in Artemis makes no sense to me. I am not really that into it myself. I like it on occasion but only when it is the flow. Anal is a specialty item and there are things one needs to do to make it work & hygienic. A girl walking around the club, having eaten and her digestive tract working normally, may not be prepared for anal, if you know what I mean. Not sure how those Brazilian girls do it? Maybe they do an enema before every shift and then do not eat much. Or maybe they do not care?

I know that anal is such a huge porn mainstay that most guys want it. They see it in porn and do not realize the amont of prep that goes into geting a girl to accept an anal pounding and not have shit flying in all directions. In the end, by all means ask for anal if you want it, but do not be surprised when the FKK anal falls short of you imagination.

Probably best to get on a plane and head to Brazil. It may, in the long run, be cheaper.

AM

If you want to practice a lots of anal with the girls, go to NRW club like I do, it's only 50€ extra, some girls really likes it; you need to get her relaxed and aroused before fucking her a-hole.

Nille

[Old German]

After 3 month I visited Artemis yesterday again, arrived before 7 p.m. Almost the half of the girls have been new faces for me and I didn’t saw one of my former favorites from Bulgaria or Russia.
After walking around I spotted a nice looking girl, name Nina fro Czech Republic. You can easy recognize her, because her long dark hairs are falling down up to a tattoo on her back. We talked a little and then we went upstairs. She was absolutely affectionate and we changed our DFK for long time. She gave me a good BBBJ. Then she rode my first in Cowboy style, after we changed and I finished in missionary position. After the sex she came for awhile in my arms and we kissed again very intensive. Nina is now a new favorite for me. I can really recommend her
After a longer break I saw a black girl. She came from Ghana, called herself Sylvia. Since longer time I didn’t had an African girl, so I took her for round two. But it was a little disappointing. She wasn’t much into DFK. Her BBBJ was o.k., but not exceptional. We had sex in different positions and she began to moan, but it was surely fake. After finishing she immediately grabbed her towel and wanted to leave the room. I let her go. I had in the past many better girls and cannot recommend her.
After midnight I was ready for round three. I took a dark haired slim girl from Belarus, name Julia. Her lips have been rouged glaring red. She wasn’t a great kisser, but her BBBJ was awfully. And then she rode me like a devil, absolutely wild. Because it was so great for me I let her do and didn’t change in another position till I exploded. So I can give also a recommendation for this girl.

[Charlie 123]

The one and only time I tried a session with 2 girls at Artemis was a disaster. That was long time ago, one of my first visits at Artemis.

I was trapped by 2 very nice looking Polish blondes inviting me to have great fun with them in the room.

I accepted and as soon as we entered the room they both started moaning in pleasure (I really don't stand that crap). After that, while one was almost kissing me, without really doing it, the other genius had slipped me a condom and was starting a covered BJ.

I got immediately pissed off and asked if they where joking or something.

The girl said she used the condom because I was not clean (impossible, believe me), so I told them I was leaving and the said they would call the security, it ended I paid only one girl and we all left.

Anyway, seeing it now, there are things one should pay attention to, IMHO:

1 I don't usually session with girls that come up to me and insist a lot, specially if extremely good looking.

2 I explicitly ask things with girls I never sessioned with BEFORE going to the room. This includes if she does cim or whatever I'm into.

3 I start the evenings taking my risks with girls I don't know, and play safer later on with girls I'm sure I'll have fun. Having the worst session with the last girl might spoil my evening.

But what's the strategy if you want to session with 2 girls?

First thing that come to my head is to get one girl you already know and feel comfortable with and ask her if she has a friend. But what if you don't like the friend?

Any Guru has some suggestions?

Ciao

Hi Kimino

Hope you're well.

The field of 2-girl sessions happens to be something of an area of special interest to me. I started off my sex-life this way. When I was 18 I had a girlfriend who was 29 and we were together for 4 years. She in turn had a girlfriend who was 15 years older than her and who was also the mistress of a well-known 1970's pop singer (whom I won't identify here for obvious reasons). Naturally, 3-way parties were the order of the day for much of those 4 years that we were together and thus begun my sex education. Consequently I have had something of a penchant for this variation ever since, and whilst it can be very mundane and ordinary at times, when it clicks it's just GREAT! The only way to fly, IMHO.

P4P-wise, I have done a couple of dozen or so such sessions at Artemis and similar places. Sometimes it's been pretty good, often a disappointment. Last week I did my debut session with 3 girls at Artemis. Something I'd often fantasised about but never before tried. As it happens, it was OK but not special. Certainly nothing as exciting as it appears in porn films to be, but I strongly suspect that one has to be rather more of a stud than I am to pull off this particular stunt. Hopefully we will meet again later this month when you are in Berlin and I will give you the gory details of my 3-girl experience if you are interested.

As regards 2-girl scenes, I have a couple of golden rules that have served me well and may prove useful to anybody who is contemplating a 'menage-a-trois' but is nervous about how it will turn out in reality:

1) NEVER allow yourself to be picked up by two unknown girls offering a double act. They're probably just looking for a double sucker

2) These things work best when you know one of the girls already, preferably as a regular customer of hers and with whom you already have a good client relationship. She will have a vested interest in ensuring that you have a good time and 'protect' you

3) Allow your 'known' girl to pick the third member of the team. The chemistry between the girls is the KEY element in a successful trio. Don't reckon your chances of matchmaking between 2 girls that take your eye, that's not the way to do it. 'Your girl' will be much better able to interpret and convey to the other girl your preferences and ambitions for the session than you will be able to. You asked 'what if you don't like the friend'. Well, my suggestion would be to either go with it anyway, or to mention quietly to 'your girl' that her selection doesn't do it for you and ask her if she's got anybody else. There won't be many girls that she will feel comfortable with that also meet your visual criteria, that's why these things often turn out to be a disappointment. I just about never turn down the chick that 'my girl' recommends, on the basis that a good sexual rapport between the two girls will impact more greatly on the quality of the session than any premium in visual experience that I get from selecting a prettier girl. Chemistry is everything in sex in my view, but with 2-girl sessions this is doubly so.

4) In my experience, there is a huge difference between 'lesbi show' and 'lesbi sex'. If you want to have the girls enthusiastically licking each other out then first you should check with 'your girl' that she's into all that, and then invite her to procure a like-minded accomplice. Many of these girls are strictly hetero, but will do a 2-girl 'blasen und fikken' routine if pressed. Some won't do it at all. Know what you want, establish that 'your girl' will comply, and convey clearly to her that the other girl must also deliver. That way you get the best chance of receiving the service that you are expecting (and paying for).

5) Don't be shy to discuss in precise detail with 'your girl' exactly what is going to be on the menu and what the cost will be. Paying good money for shitty sessions at Artemis is always frustrating but when it's 'double-rates' it is even more painful.

One good suggestion for a duo who work nicely together is Gabitza and her slutty blond Hungarian friend (can't remember her stage name – begins with 'T'). Selma and Katja are a good double-act if you like the MILF look. Ella and anybody she recommends would also be fine I reckon

Good luck.

Charlie

[Hessen Bub]

you mean North of Germany right ? I am afraid it is too far from where I live, even if I am not sure where exactly you mean and which clubs.

I mean Nordrhein-Westfalen (NRW). Especially the area around Düsseldorf and north-east from there. Examples:

GoldenTime, Brüggen
LivingRoom, Kaarst
Villa Vertigo, Grefrath
Planet Happy Garden, Tönisvorst
and others.
(all above with 50€ entrance, 50€/30min, next 30 for 25€, 25€ CIM, 50€ anal
Acapulco, Velbert (between Wuppertal and Essen, 35€ entrance, before 1pm only 25€, 40€/30min, 25€ CIM, 50€ anal)

HB

[Kimino]

We might have to start calling you Guruji in the future and get you a turban.

AM

Ahaha, learning from the masters!!!

I'll probably hit Marcella and her friend (the ones i sessioned one by one last time) and see how it goes this time.

Ciao

[Eros74]

...Maybe they do an enema before every shift and then do not eat much. Or maybe they do not care?...

Thanks AM, I agree about everything !

Yes, I am pretty sure they do enema, I cannot believe I was so lucky that 99% of time they were clean even if they stay in termas and in FKK 8 and more hours.

Only regarding anal terma is surely cheaper, as it is included in basic price and there it is indeed very easy to find girls who love anal, but there you have to pay drinks and reais got much stronger against euro.

Considering everything, I drive to FKK and I need to spend at least 600 euro ticket flight to Brazil, FKK is cheaper and, let's make it clear, the girls are million times more beautiful even if sometimes colder too.

Go to NRW, anal for 50€ and CIM for 25€.

HB

Hessen Bub,

you mean North of Germany right ? I am afraid it is too far from where I live, even if I am not sure where exactly you mean and which clubs.

[Hessen Bub]

"May the Force be with you".

HB

[Angus Magee]

Tell them that there will be no "lesbo show crap" for 100 EUR extra, be sure that the girl's do get along well and that a 3some can be fun.

Hessen Bub-One part Obi Wan, two parts Yoda. We'll None of that "lesbo show crap" for 100 EUR extra" have....young Luke. LOL.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Any Guru has some suggestions? :-)

Personally I think you said it all right here. The disaster was well managed and i think you extracted yourself, practiced dammage control and came out of it as well as could have been expected considering your dick(albiet covered) was in her mouth. Anything else would have been much more complicated and involved security which is always best to avoid unless you have been seriously ripped off by a girl or mis informed. You gave way yet retained your self respect and backbone. The funny thing is with this sort of experience is that were you to session with the girl again, not that I am suggesting you do but if, you could well find her a much better performer. The girls do tend to try it on from time to time. If a monger stands up to her in a gentlemanly manner, firm but giving a bit, they respect you more and can actually suddenly find you a bit sexy. Women are strange and wondrous creature who you can never really predict. Ask Charlie about this if you see him. He is a master at this way I feel. It is the Tao of Steve (McQueen that is) and I reference a very entertaining 80s film of that name.

The two girl strategy of asking her to find a friend is also the best and is the one used and recommended by any seasoned monger.The only thing I would ad, and I say this with all p4p, is to listen to your first, gut instinct. This tends to be pretty accurate IME.

We might have to start calling you Guruji in the future and get you a turban.

AM

[Hessen Bub]

But what's the strategy if you want to session with 2 girls?

First thing that come to my head is to get one girl you already know and feel comfortable with and ask her if she has a friend. But what if you don't like the friend?

One of the girl's you should know well and she should know you and your preferences (looks, service). Then either let her choose the second girl (you can still say no and let her propose another) or YOU choose the second girl who has also been with you and where girl #1 can say yes or no.

Tell them that there will be no "lesbo show crap" for 100 EUR extra, be sure that the girl's do get along well and that a 3some can be fun.

HB