FKK Artemis - Berlin

**Angus Magee** · 08-25-09 08:31

Originally Posted by Blue Swede

I will go to Artemis 3-5 September regardless.
It is for sure easier to come home and explain a bullet hole in you, than a veneric disease! :-)

Let's just hope this is end of the story for this time.

Angus, are you planning to go there during that period? I would love to meet such a "senior monger" and hear some good advises.

Blue

It is doubtful that I will be at Artemis in early Sept.. Have to fill the coffers.

**Angus Magee** · 08-25-09 08:24

Originally Posted by Falco2

Hi Angus, could you point me to a good German forum? I have googled the German google trying to find a good one, but have yet to find anything. I can read German good enough.

Also, I hope that this altercation between the owner of Artemis and the other fellows isn't a result of the owner mistreating one of the girls.

Falco

Hi,

First I will try to pm you the address (hope you are a full member) as I am never really sure if it is okay to publish addresses of what could be a competing site here on ISG.

As for the rest-I don't think so-though one version I read had him wanting sex from her and her not giving it to him. But we have sunk to the level of gossip & speculation here. My feeling with Artemis is that the girls are treated fairly. That being said, I am sure that there are incidents that happen that could be construed either way.

I vote that we all put this topic to rest and get back to the subject for which this board is really intended-girls.

Edit: Tried to pm-no luck. But here you go.

http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/start/eingang.php

Be advised, I had great trouble signing up to this site but finally managed without going through the dammed age check thing which wants cc details.

**Falco2** · 08-25-09 02:41

Originally Posted by Angus Magee

due to stuff I have read on the German forums, that the story told in the newspaper is not the whole story.

Hi Angus, could you point me to a good German forum? I have googled the German google trying to find a good one, but have yet to find anything. I can read German good enough.

Also, I hope that this altercation between the owner of Artemis and the other fellows isn't a result of the owner mistreating one of the girls.

Falco

**Blue Swede** · 08-24-09 21:43

I will go to Artemis 3-5 September regardless.
It is for sure easier to come home and explain a bullet hole in you, than a veneric disease! :-)

Let's just hope this is end of the story for this time.

Angus, are you planning to go there during that period? I would love to meet such a "senior monger" and hear some good advises.

Blue

**Angus Magee** · 08-24-09 16:03

Originally Posted by Bestwank

Artemis is heaven.

If I get shot and die there, I'll be in Heaven. So, I'll take the risk

When, or should I say if, I ever find myself standing before the pearly gates and they try to charge me 80 Euros admission, I just hope that that old pearl of wisdom, "You can't take it with you", is wrong.

But seriously, I did not mean to suggest that Albanian gang members are going to show up and shoot up Artemis. I was just noting that this is going on and it does not hurt to be aware of it. As Akibono notes:

Originally Posted by Akibono

These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.

Though I am not really sure about what you mean by a locked gate. Artemis has no such gate, locked or otherwise. It does have a ton of security cameras though and a number of very large security guards.

All that being said, keep your wits about you is advise that I would give to mongers in any number of situations in which we might find ourselves. I myself can be somewhat naive when it comes to these things. But Artemis is a big club in a big city and its' business is in an area that is traditionally associated with organized crime. Talking with this girl last week, she told me that a number of the girls who work there have "handlers" and the priorities of the club & those of the "handlers" at times do clash. And this may be such a case as I am pretty sure, due to stuff I have read on the German forums, that the story told in the newspaper is not the whole story.

I am not at all sure if this sort of stuff plays itself out in the other clubs. But to pretend that Artemis is the innocent men's playground that it projects itself as, is foolish. IMO

And do not get me wrong. I like Artemis and will continue to go there. Now I have all the more reason though to take a closer look at the girls with whom I end up in the room.

AM (trying not to sound too, too paranoid)

**Bestwank** · 08-23-09 19:24

Artemis is heaven.

If I get shot and die there, I'll be in Heaven. So, I'll take the risk

**Kommodore** · 08-23-09 18:10

Yes C2... one should not go mongering to Berlin without visiting Artemis at least once. Why not go along with the intention of staying just for a few hours. When you get there, see how you feel and perhaps stay for longer. I think you will be safe enough. Look forward to hearing all about your adventures.

Cheers
AronJoseph

Originally Posted by Akibono

These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.

**Akibono** · 08-23-09 17:32

Originally Posted by Hessen Bub

Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?

HB

These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.

**Falco2** · 08-23-09 11:44

Originally Posted by Hessen Bub

Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?

HB

Actually there is no mention of Albanians in the news article mentioned below. It only says that the victim's parents are Lebanese.

Falco2

**Hessen Bub** · 08-23-09 11:09

Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?

HB

**Creature2** · 08-22-09 16:40

Originally Posted by Angus Magee

Keep your wits about you for the next little while at Artemis and spend as much time as possible in a room upstairs. Not such bad advise at any time.

AM

Next week, I will be visiting Berlin and Artemis was on top of my to do list!
Now, I am indecisive to go or not to go.
Maybe, it would be better to pay this visit next year, when everything settled down.

**Hessen Bub** · 08-22-09 16:35

Originally Posted by Mac75

I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache.

He's allowed to look after the girls and the club, but Artemis is owned by Kenan, the guy that fired 3 shots at the Albanian gang. Too bad he aimed to low.

HB

**Angus Magee** · 08-22-09 16:15

Originally Posted by Basketcase

Regardless, I hope that this affair does not stifle my impending visits to Artemis.

I spoke to one of the girls about this (a very level headed girl) and she told me that they were, or at least the manager in question is, expecting some sort of retaliation. Or rather he is in the constant company of a couple of body guards at the moment.

I am not sure if this will affect business in Artemis. It all seems a bit hush-hush as when we were talking the girl told me that they did not want a lot of gossip about it.

I personally would feel a bit better to see some actually security at the door right now. Not to get too melodramatic about it but I can imagine that some sort of incident at Artemis would be pretty good revenge for these gang types.

Keep your wits about you for the next little while at Artemis and spend as much time as possible in a room upstairs. Not such bad advise at any time.

BTW-Basketcase-when are you planning your visit. If it is towards the end of Sept. maybe we could meet and swap tales. I look forward to you usual in depth reporting in any case.

AM

**Basketcase** · 08-21-09 03:49

Originally Posted by Mac75

I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache. I've seen him every time I've been there before, he's also in the Bravo video of Artemis that was posted a while ago on this thread.

Maybe Kenad was a manager of Artemis as opposed to the manager at Artemis. There can be a management structure involving more than one person in some organisations. Maybe I am missing the point of what a manager is when someone asks to see the manager. Do they actually mean the CEO or the owner?

I have seen the German man with the blond hair and moustache in Artemis as well. I recognised him from the Bravo documentary as well as from the News.

Regardless, I hope that this affair does not stifle my impending visits to Artemis.

**Mac75** · 08-21-09 00:47

I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache. I've seen him every time I've been there before, he's also in the Bravo video of Artemis that was posted a while ago on this thread.

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