FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Sirioja]

Reports are not only about girls, they are about overall experience. If people say in such a sweeping majority that Artemis is down from its glory days and sunk into the abyss, then one, it might help people make smart destination decisions (these trips are not cheap and most of us use vacation days) and two it is peoples way to provide a review that expresses there gratitude or disappointment, just like a restaurant.

Also, most people are tourists that don't know girl names or remember them.

Oase days with lists still happen on Oase threads in German language forums. Artemis never had lists of names for the same reason, not many English speaking repeat clients. And not as many German repeat clients as in Oase or its parallels because most German customers refuse to pay the Artemis absence prices.

Will be great to have detailed girl lists for Artemis but the reality is that we never had them and most likely never will.

All clubs are on the decline at the moment, but Artemis is leading the way proudly.

I would not say all clubs, Oase is improving a bit for girls behavior on 2019, Andiamo Villach was a rather good surprise, but Wellcum became Austrian Sharks: quantity but lack of quality, even I might be very unlucky if I missed Mila for few days. Only 1 girl could have changed from disappointment to pleasure, but so average casting with lack of pretty faces, like at Sharks. Not only Artemis falling, even silicon show Globe is not on top on this Summer, but Freubad north Bern was a really good surprise with a rare pleasure, before room, for love in bed, and even after room, like lovers, she discovering sexuality. Can still find real pleasures even not so often now.

[Mr Ho]

I think that you have too much money and free time, no need to go there it is just a tourist trap.

Well, I already bought ticket and hotel room, so I am going buddy, but I will try to make best out of it. I got so much good memories there since year 2009 to 2015.

[Danny227]

Well looking back I think he deserves more of a request to stay than many others! But I did smile at your post at least.

Here is the real issue. With the exception of one brand new poster, I went back 6 pages and I can only find my own reports on visits and girls. The forum is meant to be about information sharing for mutual benefit. Currently, it's not. It's about moaning about how things have declined, or recently one guy taking the trouble to log onto this forum to attack this "dump" of a club and say he'the never return. He didn't reply when I asked what on earth he is doing reading contributions to a forum for a club he will never attend!

So people can express views, hard line views, honest thoughts, comments on shit around the pool, etc but the truth is that almost NOTHING is volunteered in this forum currently which either encourages people to attend the club, or gives them advice on who to session with when they do. Oh for the days in the Oase thread when Syzygies and others posted long lists of girls and rated them. It would really be great to get back to people posting about the girls.

Reports are not only about girls, they are about overall experience. If people say in such a sweeping majority that Artemis is down from its glory days and sunk into the abyss, then one, it might help people make smart destination decisions (these trips are not cheap and most of us use vacation days) and two it is peoples way to provide a review that expresses there gratitude or disappointment, just like a restaurant.

Also, most people are tourists that don't know girl names or remember them.

Oase days with lists still happen on Oase threads in German language forums. Artemis never had lists of names for the same reason, not many English speaking repeat clients. And not as many German repeat clients as in Oase or its parallels because most German customers refuse to pay the Artemis absence prices.

Will be great to have detailed girl lists for Artemis but the reality is that we never had them and most likely never will.

All clubs are on the decline at the moment, but Artemis is leading the way proudly.

[ExpatLover]

I am going to Artemis after 4 years of avoiding Artemis this late summer, so I will let you guys know how it improved back to how it was in early 2010's. Or how they did not change, but got even worst.

All I am asking Artemis is throw in few, just 2 or 3 real beautiful model type stunner German girls like there used to be few of in vast diverse line up of Artemis.

As for facility, for me, I prefer Artemis the most in Germany and Berlin is my favorite city in Germany so, it will be nice to see my old once upon a time favorite club Artemis back on track.

It is always too sad to see good club turned bad like what a waste and spoil of beautiful good thing. It all went odd after polizei raiding Artemis.

I think that you have too much money and free time, no need to go there it is just a tourist trap.

[Mr Ho]

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I would say this: I'm not sure it was ever without silicones or tattoos! At least when I first visited in 2013 (oh the memory!) those features were present then. But not as much as now and there were indeed younger girls as Mr Ho often has commented..

I am going to Artemis after 4 years of avoiding Artemis this late summer, so I will let you guys know how it improved back to how it was in early 2010's. Or how they did not change, but got even worst.

All I am asking Artemis is throw in few, just 2 or 3 real beautiful model type stunner German girls like there used to be few of in vast diverse line up of Artemis.

As for facility, for me, I prefer Artemis the most in Germany and Berlin is my favorite city in Germany so, it will be nice to see my old once upon a time favorite club Artemis back on track.

It is always too sad to see good club turned bad like what a waste and spoil of beautiful good thing. It all went odd after polizei raiding Artemis.

[PayForIt]

No baby, please don't go. We need reliable sources / esteemed senior members.

Well looking back I think he deserves more of a request to stay than many others! But I did smile at your post at least.

Here is the real issue. With the exception of one brand new poster, I went back 6 pages and I can only find my own reports on visits and girls. The forum is meant to be about information sharing for mutual benefit. Currently, it's not. It's about moaning about how things have declined, or recently one guy taking the trouble to log onto this forum to attack this "dump" of a club and say he'the never return. He didn't reply when I asked what on earth he is doing reading contributions to a forum for a club he will never attend!

So people can express views, hard line views, honest thoughts, comments on shit around the pool, etc but the truth is that almost NOTHING is volunteered in this forum currently which either encourages people to attend the club, or gives them advice on who to session with when they do. Oh for the days in the Oase thread when Syzygies and others posted long lists of girls and rated them. It would really be great to get back to people posting about the girls.

[PinballMachine]

Well, every forum has its polizei, and in this one it is Nooky.

But hey nooky, when was your last report of visiting Artemis?

Please feel free to make a visit and then a perfect report of that and telling all staff members of everything that bothers you and then fill out several pages of questionnaires before you head back to home.

Wold be appreciated.

[Danny227]

Sadly over the past couple of years this forum has changed. To be fair, that probably reflects the downturn of the club itself. But what this forum can least afford is for experienced contributors. And in that I include both Ninja and Danny, to jump ship. I therefore ask Ninja to reconsider his decision to leave the forum. His contributions have been very valuable to others.

If a restaurant was once the best in town, but now plods along in 4th place, it doesn't mean the food there became bad or the place should be avoided. Artemis is not as good as it was 5 years ago. That cannot seriously be disputed I don't think by any of us. But it is not awful and a great time can be had there. It just needs more effort than before.

I would say this: I'm not sure it was ever without silicones or tattoos! At least when I first visited in 2013 (oh the memory!) those features were present then. But not as much as now and there were indeed younger girls as Mr Ho often has commented..

Zimmerbaby, you are just too funny, thanks.

Now, nobody is jumping from any ships and no need to be melodramatic. One of the most fun and interesting features of healthy communication is the freedom of expression. The influx of many converging opinions. People can say what they want.

I am one that is know to express a strong opinion or disagree, but there is a long way to allow, disallowing, forbidding, etc' is going to far. Lets put things in perspective, we all want to fuck, we all want to get good service and we all have an opinion after we do that. How about we keep it light and let people fuck, enjoy, eat, shit and freely express their opinions. It is only pussy. Have fun guys.

[ZimmerBaby]

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

No baby, please don't go. We need reliable sources / esteemed senior members. You are mucho importante organ donor for p4p in Berlin in general. Just calm down, listen to this "Tribute to Nooky". Imagine I hold you, stare in your eyes and sing this for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlHcYjA3lWQ

Can you imagine the beautiful scene where I play this Spanish guitar for you while wearing the white Artemis robe? Yes baby, please stay.

[PayForIt]

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

Sadly over the past couple of years this forum has changed. To be fair, that probably reflects the downturn of the club itself. But what this forum can least afford is for experienced contributors. And in that I include both Ninja and Danny, to jump ship. I therefore ask Ninja to reconsider his decision to leave the forum. His contributions have been very valuable to others.

If a restaurant was once the best in town, but now plods along in 4th place, it doesn't mean the food there became bad or the place should be avoided. Artemis is not as good as it was 5 years ago. That cannot seriously be disputed I don't think by any of us. But it is not awful and a great time can be had there. It just needs more effort than before.

I would say this: I'm not sure it was ever without silicones or tattoos! At least when I first visited in 2013 (oh the memory!) those features were present then. But not as much as now and there were indeed younger girls as Mr Ho often has commented.

The real problem at this club is the total lack of competition. If Sharks started having 50%+ older girls for example, it would close quickly. Punters would soon divert to the other options (6 of them! So the management at Artemis don't need to try too hard. What I find most odd is that Berlin is such a better City to be in than Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Cologne and yet it doesn't attract the better looking girls even though prices in Artemis are a little higher than elsewhere. So I can only think that the management do not encourage younger, slimmer girls to work there. I recall discussing this with a very intelligent girl in Sharks one night. She said she worked in the club days and returned to Frankfurt because there was a very hard-lined clique of German girls at Artemis and often newcomers are made to feel awkward / unwanted. Maybe that got around and girls don't want it. Or maybe its the tough regime on health. Artemis insists all girls are tested for infections every couple of weeks.

But bashing the club constantly really doesn't help any of us. Indeed it is more likely to cause less punters to visit. That in turn means less decent looking girls will ever want to work there. And so on. I don't ask anyone to lie and say it's become Nirvana overnight. But it would help greatly if senior members who attend post about girls they have enjoyed even if they did have to hunt them out a bit more.

I had two fabulous nights there recently and although I sessioned twice with Carla (once in a threesome) there were more than enough girls I would have been happy to also try such that had I been there 5 days I would have had a good time and a lot of different girls. And I'm picky! I don't go with fat girls, and I don't much like big silicones. But I still missed out on several very attractive girls. It's really not all that bad. Not as good as it was, but far from bad.

I hope Ninja and Danny agree to down their battle gear and get back to the club and let us have some great reports on their experiences. Ninja. If you do leave this forum I personally wish you well and hope you will return and I thank you for your valuable contributions. Hopefully you'll reconsider.

[Johnny Bull]

OK, looks like I arrived in a not so great moment. I've been following Ninja's posts for months while unregistered and the day I joined he decided to quit. Really bad timing.

I would like to share my experience visiting Artemis by the end of last July, in a Sunday.

I saw a post saying that there's no point in recommending girls, but I think that's the only fair way of doing a bit of advertising to the most professional ones. Of course, your experience may vary depending on many factors, like how much you would like to expend, how was her mood in the day and even how much she liked you.

I arrived at the club around 4 PM and, after taking a shower and putting my robe, went to the main bar which was a bit empty. Talked to some girls who approached me, from places like Hungary, Moldova and Romania. A Czech girl, Nicole, almost convinced me of going upstairs. She appears to have a natural body, medium-sized boobs, and looks this "girl who was kinda ugly in high school so I put I lot of effort in looking nice now that I'm an adult". The problem is that I was a bit tired and wanted to rest, sitting and observing the girls around for a while.

One thing that really caught my attention, while sitting at the bar, is that people seems to love Annabelle, the Latvian (or German, depending how you consider someone who moved to another country as a kid) red-headed skinny girl with an almost unbelievable pretty face. She doesn't stay by the bar for more than 5 minutes straight. When she gets there, it's for sure that someone will immediately approach her and ask to go upstairs. I saw this happening at least twice before I would be able to talk to her. Other girls sit there for hours, literally, and get no customers.

Knowing that I would have to wait a bit more to see Annabelle, I went downstairs, thinking about enjoying a sauna. I immediately gave up on this idea when I saw an old guy jerking off in there. Thinking that it would be nice to just lay down by the indoor pool hearing the waterfall sound, I tried to relax. A couple minutes later, a Jamaican girl came poking my shoulder and trying to make conversation. I talked a bit to her and said that by that moment I would prefer to rest. A few moments later, the same girl again poked my shoulder, pointing to Nicole, who was asking why I was laying down there and not having fun upstairs. Like, really, how hard it is to understand that someone who is almost falling asleep doesn't want to be bothered?

Realizing that it would be impossible to rest in there, I went back to the bar. Annabelle returned to there almost at the same time as me, and seeing I was looking at her, came to talk to me. To be honest, I was a bit afraid that she could be one of those rude girls. She is clearly the most cute girl in there, easily top 1%, so I thought she might be too full of herself. But boy, how wrong I was! She's one the most lovely and sympathetic girls I ever met. Clearly the kind of girl you would like to bring to family barbecues in the weekend and walk holding hands in a shopping mall.

Talking about her services, someone mentioned here a few days ago, that no matter what you pay to her, you get nothing. I'm not sure what would be that definition of "nothing", cause she was really straight when defining what she does or not for money. She charges 40 for BBBJ, but it's not up for anal. She said she also doesn't like DATY, which is really sad as I really wanted to shove my face in her lightly-pink-almost-just-white pussy. One thing that she's not good is at handjobs, as I'm not sure why, as even with oil she almost hurt my dick. Even though, I spent two hours (standard 120/ h) with her and, together with the extra plus tip, paid her 300. Bonus points for how cute is she giving many little kisses (not DFK) with her gorgeous lips.

When leaving the room, I took a shower and went to the external pool, which was way more crowded than the bar. I guess many people don't really see a point in staying inside a building during summer. After eating barbecue, I went back to the bar, where I talked to this Iranian / Turkish girl which I can't remember the name, but she's so different than the other girls that you can't miss her. She has a really well distributed body, with a big butt. It took me a while to grasp the prices for her services, as she explain them in a somewhat confusing way. She said something like ". *60 for half an hour basics, but for 120 we can do everything except anal and if you want no condom is 50 extra". I was a bit afraid of this "no condom" thing, until I realized that she meant BBBJ. When I asked how much would be the price for one hour, she said that it would also be 120, which made the explanation even more confusing.

I was positively surprised in the room with her. She's probably the girl who most like sex I ever heard of. Putting the condom with her own mouth, she sucked me like there's no tomorrow. I never put my dick in a vacuum cleaner, but I guess it would be a reasonable comparison. When doing doggy, she has this "no hands thing", where she uses her butt to position your dick and then suck it inside her pussy. Maybe that's a known pompoir technique, but I had never seen before. It's truly amazing. She's also really good at expressing how much she's enjoying DATY and smiling at you all the time. Top-notch service. By the end I stayed for one hour and, together with tip, paid her 150.

After these three hours, plus the time I spent lurking at the bar and both pools, I left there a little after 10 PM. Spent 450 (not counting the 80 entrance) and went home happy for meeting a super-cute girl that could totally be a Hollywood star or at least a highly-successful model and another totally crazy-for-sex chick.

As a wise man once said: "most of my money I spent on women and drinks. All the rest I wasted".

[Danny227]

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

Mister Ninja has the absolute right to express an opinion like all of us, even a strong opinion. Mister Ninja does not have the right, absolutely not, to tell people what to write. And please excuse me, but if you are "fed up" and all the other very descriptive language you use, you also have the absolute right to stop using this thread. Now really, please, let people be. You can force others. Cheers mate.

[Nooky Ninja]

Quite honestly, we do not abide or live by Ninja rules. Most of us here actually find his post beneficial.

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

[ExpatLover]

I wrote about it because I hope management sometimes read this forum and because it bothered me. Me and my friend both paid an 80 Euro entrance fee but neither one of us wanted to use the pool that Arabian guys were in their underpants, and then they were spitting on the pavers. Disgusting, filthy behaviour that took away the good feeling of relaxing in the club before having sex with the chicks.

Plenty of A-staff around? Is that a bad joke? Fact is that there are no staff around the pool area and inside only bar girls and the front-desk-lady. Kitchen "staff" visible during breakfast and dinner time but they do not care about guests pool-behaviour. The only time you see security or "management" is when they fetch a plate of coffee or drinks from the bar. Maybe they deal with drunk or rude guys on late hours, that I do not know.

The new customers of most of the clubs and prostitutes are with migration background, the world is changing rapidly, we have to adapt or to find other places, I have already chosen the second option, I hate having to fight with uneducated guys, full of negative testosterone, feeling strong when they are in groups. No showering nude.

[Mr Ho]

No need ever to pay more..

That would be ideal. It is like that in NRW FKK.