FKK Artemis - Berlin

[PayForIt]

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

Sadly over the past couple of years this forum has changed. To be fair, that probably reflects the downturn of the club itself. But what this forum can least afford is for experienced contributors. And in that I include both Ninja and Danny, to jump ship. I therefore ask Ninja to reconsider his decision to leave the forum. His contributions have been very valuable to others.

If a restaurant was once the best in town, but now plods along in 4th place, it doesn't mean the food there became bad or the place should be avoided. Artemis is not as good as it was 5 years ago. That cannot seriously be disputed I don't think by any of us. But it is not awful and a great time can be had there. It just needs more effort than before.

I would say this: I'm not sure it was ever without silicones or tattoos! At least when I first visited in 2013 (oh the memory!) those features were present then. But not as much as now and there were indeed younger girls as Mr Ho often has commented.

The real problem at this club is the total lack of competition. If Sharks started having 50%+ older girls for example, it would close quickly. Punters would soon divert to the other options (6 of them! So the management at Artemis don't need to try too hard. What I find most odd is that Berlin is such a better City to be in than Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Cologne and yet it doesn't attract the better looking girls even though prices in Artemis are a little higher than elsewhere. So I can only think that the management do not encourage younger, slimmer girls to work there. I recall discussing this with a very intelligent girl in Sharks one night. She said she worked in the club days and returned to Frankfurt because there was a very hard-lined clique of German girls at Artemis and often newcomers are made to feel awkward / unwanted. Maybe that got around and girls don't want it. Or maybe its the tough regime on health. Artemis insists all girls are tested for infections every couple of weeks.

But bashing the club constantly really doesn't help any of us. Indeed it is more likely to cause less punters to visit. That in turn means less decent looking girls will ever want to work there. And so on. I don't ask anyone to lie and say it's become Nirvana overnight. But it would help greatly if senior members who attend post about girls they have enjoyed even if they did have to hunt them out a bit more.

I had two fabulous nights there recently and although I sessioned twice with Carla (once in a threesome) there were more than enough girls I would have been happy to also try such that had I been there 5 days I would have had a good time and a lot of different girls. And I'm picky! I don't go with fat girls, and I don't much like big silicones. But I still missed out on several very attractive girls. It's really not all that bad. Not as good as it was, but far from bad.

I hope Ninja and Danny agree to down their battle gear and get back to the club and let us have some great reports on their experiences. Ninja. If you do leave this forum I personally wish you well and hope you will return and I thank you for your valuable contributions. Hopefully you'll reconsider.

[Johnny Bull]

OK, looks like I arrived in a not so great moment. I've been following Ninja's posts for months while unregistered and the day I joined he decided to quit. Really bad timing.

I would like to share my experience visiting Artemis by the end of last July, in a Sunday.

I saw a post saying that there's no point in recommending girls, but I think that's the only fair way of doing a bit of advertising to the most professional ones. Of course, your experience may vary depending on many factors, like how much you would like to expend, how was her mood in the day and even how much she liked you.

I arrived at the club around 4 PM and, after taking a shower and putting my robe, went to the main bar which was a bit empty. Talked to some girls who approached me, from places like Hungary, Moldova and Romania. A Czech girl, Nicole, almost convinced me of going upstairs. She appears to have a natural body, medium-sized boobs, and looks this "girl who was kinda ugly in high school so I put I lot of effort in looking nice now that I'm an adult". The problem is that I was a bit tired and wanted to rest, sitting and observing the girls around for a while.

One thing that really caught my attention, while sitting at the bar, is that people seems to love Annabelle, the Latvian (or German, depending how you consider someone who moved to another country as a kid) red-headed skinny girl with an almost unbelievable pretty face. She doesn't stay by the bar for more than 5 minutes straight. When she gets there, it's for sure that someone will immediately approach her and ask to go upstairs. I saw this happening at least twice before I would be able to talk to her. Other girls sit there for hours, literally, and get no customers.

Knowing that I would have to wait a bit more to see Annabelle, I went downstairs, thinking about enjoying a sauna. I immediately gave up on this idea when I saw an old guy jerking off in there. Thinking that it would be nice to just lay down by the indoor pool hearing the waterfall sound, I tried to relax. A couple minutes later, a Jamaican girl came poking my shoulder and trying to make conversation. I talked a bit to her and said that by that moment I would prefer to rest. A few moments later, the same girl again poked my shoulder, pointing to Nicole, who was asking why I was laying down there and not having fun upstairs. Like, really, how hard it is to understand that someone who is almost falling asleep doesn't want to be bothered?

Realizing that it would be impossible to rest in there, I went back to the bar. Annabelle returned to there almost at the same time as me, and seeing I was looking at her, came to talk to me. To be honest, I was a bit afraid that she could be one of those rude girls. She is clearly the most cute girl in there, easily top 1%, so I thought she might be too full of herself. But boy, how wrong I was! She's one the most lovely and sympathetic girls I ever met. Clearly the kind of girl you would like to bring to family barbecues in the weekend and walk holding hands in a shopping mall.

Talking about her services, someone mentioned here a few days ago, that no matter what you pay to her, you get nothing. I'm not sure what would be that definition of "nothing", cause she was really straight when defining what she does or not for money. She charges 40 for BBBJ, but it's not up for anal. She said she also doesn't like DATY, which is really sad as I really wanted to shove my face in her lightly-pink-almost-just-white pussy. One thing that she's not good is at handjobs, as I'm not sure why, as even with oil she almost hurt my dick. Even though, I spent two hours (standard 120/ h) with her and, together with the extra plus tip, paid her 300. Bonus points for how cute is she giving many little kisses (not DFK) with her gorgeous lips.

When leaving the room, I took a shower and went to the external pool, which was way more crowded than the bar. I guess many people don't really see a point in staying inside a building during summer. After eating barbecue, I went back to the bar, where I talked to this Iranian / Turkish girl which I can't remember the name, but she's so different than the other girls that you can't miss her. She has a really well distributed body, with a big butt. It took me a while to grasp the prices for her services, as she explain them in a somewhat confusing way. She said something like ". *60 for half an hour basics, but for 120 we can do everything except anal and if you want no condom is 50 extra". I was a bit afraid of this "no condom" thing, until I realized that she meant BBBJ. When I asked how much would be the price for one hour, she said that it would also be 120, which made the explanation even more confusing.

I was positively surprised in the room with her. She's probably the girl who most like sex I ever heard of. Putting the condom with her own mouth, she sucked me like there's no tomorrow. I never put my dick in a vacuum cleaner, but I guess it would be a reasonable comparison. When doing doggy, she has this "no hands thing", where she uses her butt to position your dick and then suck it inside her pussy. Maybe that's a known pompoir technique, but I had never seen before. It's truly amazing. She's also really good at expressing how much she's enjoying DATY and smiling at you all the time. Top-notch service. By the end I stayed for one hour and, together with tip, paid her 150.

After these three hours, plus the time I spent lurking at the bar and both pools, I left there a little after 10 PM. Spent 450 (not counting the 80 entrance) and went home happy for meeting a super-cute girl that could totally be a Hollywood star or at least a highly-successful model and another totally crazy-for-sex chick.

As a wise man once said: "most of my money I spent on women and drinks. All the rest I wasted".

[Danny227]

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

Mister Ninja has the absolute right to express an opinion like all of us, even a strong opinion. Mister Ninja does not have the right, absolutely not, to tell people what to write. And please excuse me, but if you are "fed up" and all the other very descriptive language you use, you also have the absolute right to stop using this thread. Now really, please, let people be. You can force others. Cheers mate.

[Nooky Ninja]

Quite honestly, we do not abide or live by Ninja rules. Most of us here actually find his post beneficial.

And Ninja has right to say there are other, better ways to deal with this. Not "rules" but different view based on facts. This thread has become 90% complaining vs reviews to help people, such as PayforIt's some weeks back. Best would be to start new thread "Why I hate Artemis" and then you all can just go crazy. But Danny, Ninja thank you because you help make decision to quit forum easy. Just completely fed up with how silly and useless this thread has become, just full of pointless anger and frustration, and waste of time to read. So as you need always to have last word, you have it. Done, ciao, syonara.

[ExpatLover]

I wrote about it because I hope management sometimes read this forum and because it bothered me. Me and my friend both paid an 80 Euro entrance fee but neither one of us wanted to use the pool that Arabian guys were in their underpants, and then they were spitting on the pavers. Disgusting, filthy behaviour that took away the good feeling of relaxing in the club before having sex with the chicks.

Plenty of A-staff around? Is that a bad joke? Fact is that there are no staff around the pool area and inside only bar girls and the front-desk-lady. Kitchen "staff" visible during breakfast and dinner time but they do not care about guests pool-behaviour. The only time you see security or "management" is when they fetch a plate of coffee or drinks from the bar. Maybe they deal with drunk or rude guys on late hours, that I do not know.

The new customers of most of the clubs and prostitutes are with migration background, the world is changing rapidly, we have to adapt or to find other places, I have already chosen the second option, I hate having to fight with uneducated guys, full of negative testosterone, feeling strong when they are in groups. No showering nude.

[Mr Ho]

No need ever to pay more..

That would be ideal. It is like that in NRW FKK.

[Danny227]

First, side remark on unimportant details that go against the forum's purpose of complaining how awful all is: recommend Fana, RO, dark hair, booberiffic MILF, great service, fair price.

Now, just remember those same disgusting guys are sometimes upstairs with the girls you seek. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Ninja observe many times at least 2 staff go through pool area at least every 20-30 min to collect drink glasses, and every hour to collect towels from back shower areas. So plenty of chance to report. You can yes go to bar or front desk. You can fill out complaint / suggestion form. Just enough now here.

Quite honestly, we do not abide or live by Ninja rules. Most of us here actually find his post beneficial. Ninja, if you don't like, you do not have to read, but as long as forum moderators allow the post because it has no derogatory language and users find it informative, it will be nice if you stop this dictator approach of already second time telling the guy what to write. Please let it be amigo. "Arghhhhhhhhh" and "Just enough now here" not your job to set the rules. It happens in many clubs and many of these types are rude and aggressive. No normal person want to deal with them directly or indirectly. But you are more than welcome to follow your own advice and fill the form and go to reception and do whatever pleases you. People have different methods of solving different problems and some people like to share it here. It is their right. Cheers mate.

[Downandup]

I am from Brazil, I am interested to go to Germany before going to Thailand but heard law changed, now girls don't offer BBBJ anymore. I can't fuck a girl without BBBJ.

How common is BBBJ in Germany? Especially in FKK clubs.

Sem camisinha is normal but some will insist on condom to get more money from you.

[Optimist]

Very common, as long as you pay a bit more like 20 to 40 euro more depending on girls and how you negotiate.

I am a sucker for BBBJ too.

No need ever to pay more. Although of course some girls will ask extra for almost everything.

[Mr Ho]

I am from Brazil, I am interested to go to Germany before going to Thailand but heard law changed, now girls don't offer BBBJ anymore. I can't fuck a girl without BBBJ.

How common is BBBJ in Germany? Especially in FKK clubs.

Very common, as long as you pay a bit more like 20 to 40 euro more depending on girls and how you negotiate.

I am a sucker for BBBJ too.

[MongerForSex]

I am from Brazil, I am interested to go to Germany before going to Thailand but heard law changed, now girls don't offer BBBJ anymore. I can't fuck a girl without BBBJ.

How common is BBBJ in Germany? Especially in FKK clubs.

[Nooky Ninja]

neither one of us wanted to use the pool that Arabian guys were in their underpants, and then they were spitting on the pavers. Disgusting, filthy behaviour that took away the good feeling of relaxing in the club before having sex with the chicks.Plenty of A-staff around? Is that a bad joke? Fact is that there are no staff around the pool area

First, side remark on unimportant details that go against the forum's purpose of complaining how awful all is: recommend Fana, RO, dark hair, booberiffic MILF, great service, fair price.

Now, just remember those same disgusting guys are sometimes upstairs with the girls you seek. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Ninja observe many times at least 2 staff go through pool area at least every 20-30 min to collect drink glasses, and every hour to collect towels from back shower areas. So plenty of chance to report. You can yes go to bar or front desk. You can fill out complaint / suggestion form. Just enough now here.

[ExpatLover]

Paid a visit to Artemis together with a friend last Friday July 26th.

Will make a report about girls later but just wanted to tell something that bothered me first.

In the outdoor pool Arab guys were bathing with their underpants on (not bathing shorts but their cotton underpants / underwear), disgusting. And when walking up from the pool area they were spitting on the pavers both near the pool and also after the stairs just before the outside dinner tables. Again disgusting behaviour.

A real pity that staff / management do not take actions against this really unpleasant behaviour. This should not be the case with an 80 euro entry fee.

This is happening more and more often in most of the clubs, that it is why also a lot of senior mongers prefer to stay outside the clubs starting by me. Shark, Ocean, Samya, Oase, even World are really experiencing those kind of clients mostly Friday and Saturday evening.

[PinballMachine]

Why write about this here? Plenty of A staff around pool or kitchen-you could have complained when it happened, pointed out the bad people to staff or front desk, and had the evil ones expelled, imprisoned, sent to Siberia, etc.

Ninja think, of all the disgusting things that probably go on upstairs every minute, this pretty low level stuff, in chlorinated pool, or areas under hot sun. But not fan of public spitting, so Ninja stick to fucking in Statsbibliotek and safe apartment, wearing HazMat suit (ordered through Zimmerbaby, who gets discounts on these). It is a dirty world.

I wrote about it because I hope management sometimes read this forum and because it bothered me. Me and my friend both paid an 80 Euro entrance fee but neither one of us wanted to use the pool that Arabian guys were in their underpants, and then they were spitting on the pavers. Disgusting, filthy behaviour that took away the good feeling of relaxing in the club before having sex with the chicks.

Plenty of A-staff around? Is that a bad joke? Fact is that there are no staff around the pool area and inside only bar girls and the front-desk-lady. Kitchen "staff" visible during breakfast and dinner time but they do not care about guests pool-behaviour. The only time you see security or "management" is when they fetch a plate of coffee or drinks from the bar. Maybe they deal with drunk or rude guys on late hours, that I do not know.

[Mr Ho]

GT rejects middle eastern looking people.

I wonder why that is. Maybe something must happened before.

Also at Oceans, it says with big sign by the reception that no biker gangs are allowed in.