Sauna Club Golden Time - Bruggen

[Sirioja]

I don't agree. GT was the best (by far) in casting: while from the looks and age you maybe right. But that isn't what I am after:

GT ladies were mostly smart, often entertained me before and after, never upselled, 70% were for me more natural and less sharky. Even a bit more shy. And last but not least:

There was a great lineup of german ladies, and ladies who spoke english very well. I think this was one of the screening filters.

I am deeply depressed that GT might be gone for good.

Just go to Oceans on Wednesday 11 am for new GT. I will get my car repaired on Wednesday, will go to Germany to test to limit, the only car, with electronics quattro, I'm scared about, when I drove cars which were told to be dangerous like BMW E21 H3, Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 500 with more than 100 more power, many little frogs 911, but I won't speed to Oceans. I got many German girls at GT: Rachel who became Sonja / Sunni, Sam, Liz ex Artemis, Cora, Caro, Lisa, Rose, Erika, Gigi before silicon, and was really not impressed by smartness and cleverness. I met many Romanians / Moldavians and also Kate who were much more smart, when I saw many vulgar Germans at GT. I got good Germans elsewhere than GT, but also not high smartness or for not long. I m pretty sure looks will be higher level at Oceans.

[Kuni042]

I agree with much you are saying. But I am not getting this with the three parties. There was just the owner. Who co-incidentally is a very wealthy person, and who already owns the Oceans Club in Dusseldorf.

Before Corona GT had a waiting list for girls. Even beautiful girls were rejected by GT. They could afford to do so and only work with the girls they liked. The club had it's ups and downs but most clubs could only dream of the 'down periods' of GT. With Corona closing and never a reopening. There were many rumors about reopening but they never true. It was always later. In the grapevine it was mentioned that goodwill was 4 million euro and debt was 1 million euro. That is a lot of money and that may be the reason why the reopening was set at such a late date. Now after the fire there is no reopening anytime soon. And it is unlikely that it will ever reopen again. I think so because without the fire it was already difficult to open up again. After the fire there will be costs. However good an insurance might be, my experience is that there are always extra costs. So reopening is not likely. One extra comment on the door policy. Many girls wanted to work at GT because of this door policy. They had quite bad experiences elsewhere. Sorry for those that got sent away but the door policy was there with a reason but may have been applied wrongfully in some instances.

The aftermath of the fire has three parties: owner of the site, the leaseholder and the new leaseholder. That is a difficult situation. The owner of the site lost the building and a profitable means of income. The new leaseholder lost his means of income and already had difficulties getting business started. The old leaseholder may have a problem getting paid for the goodwill. Of course there may be all kind of arrangements in the contracts that these parties hold. For example: not paying the goodwill until a certain date or until business was profitable again after Corona. But that is speculation. One sure thing is that one or of these parties is losing money in a way.

[Kuni042]

I don't agree. GT was the best (by far) in casting: while from the looks and age you maybe right. But that isn't what I am after:

GT ladies were mostly smart, often entertained me before and after, never upselled, 70% were for me more natural and less sharky. Even a bit more shy. And last but not least:

There was a great lineup of german ladies, and ladies who spoke english very well. I think this was one of the screening filters.

I am deeply depressed that GT might be gone for good.

Since I discovered on end of 2012, GT was never the best casting in Germany, with many silicons and some oldies, but really not many wow looks. Many Germans at GT were pimped and Balkanian marked like cows in a farm. Middle west NRW.

[Member #4733]

What is this "Goodwill" mentioned? Makes me think of a thrift store.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwill_(accounting).

[Sirioja]

Before Corona GT had a waiting list for girls. Even very beautiful girls were rejected by GT. They could afford to do so and only work with the girls they liked. The club had it's ups and downs but most clubs could only dream of the 'down periods' of GT. With Corona came closing and never a reopening. There were many rumors about reopening but they never came true. It was always later. In the grapevine it was mentioned that goodwill was 4 million euro and debt was 1 million euro. That is a lot of money and that may be the reason why the reopening was set at such a late date. Now after the fire there is no reopening anytime soon. And it is very unlikely that it will ever reopen again. I think so because without the fire it was already very difficult to open up again. After the fire there will be more costs. However good an insurance might be, my experience is that there are always extra costs. So reopening is not likely. One extra comment on the door policy. Many girls wanted to work at GT because of this door policy. They had quite bad experiences elsewhere. Sorry for those that got sent away but the door policy was there with a reason but may have been applied wrongfully in some instances.

The aftermath of the fire has three parties: owner of the site, the old leaseholder and the new leaseholder. That is a difficult situation. The owner of the site lost the building and a profitable means of income. The new leaseholder lost his means of income and already had difficulties getting business started. The old leaseholder may have a problem getting paid for the goodwill..

Since I discovered on end of 2012, GT was never the best casting in Germany, with many silicons and some oldies, but really not many wow looks. Many Germans at GT were pimped and Balkanian marked like cows in a farm. Middle west NRW.

[DrPoon]

Before Corona GT had a waiting list for girls. Even very beautiful girls were rejected by GT. They could afford to do so and only work with the girls they liked. The club had it's ups and downs but most clubs could only dream of the 'down periods' of GT. With Corona came closing and never a reopening. There were many rumors about reopening but they never came true. It was always later. In the grapevine it was mentioned that goodwill was 4 million euro and debt was 1 million euro. That is a lot of money and that may be the reason why the reopening was set at such a late date. Now after the fire there is no reopening anytime soon. And it is very unlikely that it will ever reopen again. I think so because without the fire it was already very difficult to open up again. After the fire there will be more costs. However good an insurance might be, my experience is that there are always extra costs. So reopening is not likely. One extra comment on the door policy. Many girls wanted to work at GT because of this door policy. They had quite bad experiences elsewhere. Sorry for those that got sent away but the door policy was there with a reason but may have been applied wrongfully in some instances.

The aftermath of the fire has three parties: owner of the site, the old leaseholder and the new leaseholder. That is a difficult situation. The owner of the site lost the building and a profitable means of income. The new leaseholder lost his means of income and already had difficulties getting business started. The old leaseholder may have a problem getting paid for the goodwill. Of course there may be all kind of arrangements in the contracts that these parties hold. For example: not paying the goodwill until a certain date or until business was profitable again after Corona. But that is speculation. One sure thing is that one or more of these parties is losing money in a big way.

What is this "Goodwill" mentioned? Makes me think of a thrift store.

[Member #4733]

Before Corona GT had a waiting list for girls. Even very beautiful girls were rejected by GT. They could afford to do so and only work with the girls they liked. The club had it's ups and downs but most clubs could only dream of the 'down periods' of GT. With Corona came closing and never a reopening. There were many rumors about reopening but they never came true. It was always later. In the grapevine it was mentioned that goodwill was 4 million euro and debt was 1 million euro. That is a lot of money and that may be the reason why the reopening was set at such a late date. Now after the fire there is no reopening anytime soon. And it is very unlikely that it will ever reopen again. I think so because without the fire it was already very difficult to open up again. After the fire there will be more costs. However good an insurance might be, my experience is that there are always extra costs. So reopening is not likely. One extra comment on the door policy. Many girls wanted to work at GT because of this door policy. They had quite bad experiences elsewhere. Sorry for those that got sent away but the door policy was there with a reason but may have been applied wrongfully in some instances.

The aftermath of the fire has three parties: owner of the site, the old leaseholder and the new leaseholder. That is a difficult situation. The owner of the site lost the building and a profitable means of income. The new leaseholder lost his means of income and already had difficulties getting business started. The old leaseholder may have a problem getting paid for the goodwill. Of course there may be all kind of arrangements in the contracts that these parties hold. For example: not paying the goodwill until a certain date or until business was profitable again after Corona. But that is speculation. One sure thing is that one or more of these parties is losing money in a big way.

[Sirioja]

Call it a "helping hand" - by the way, there's also female pimps between the WG harvesting other WG. Bad wording, sorry. In order to keep the male illusion it's better to talk about supporting each other by sharing revenues.

Yes, I forgot the Hungarian asking 50 per day to other Hungarian she advised to come to GT, and Gigi doing same with lovely so tender Daria at LR.

GT will now be located at Oceans, easier to reach without car, but more far for NL, Belgium, but with cameras to film good porn. When Oceans used to be Balkans at night and empty earlier.

[Tedesco]

.... many German WGs have Balkanian at home to who they give their money .....

Call it a "helping hand" - by the way, there's also female pimps between the WG harvesting other WG. Bad wording, sorry. In order to keep the male illusion it's better to talk about supporting each other by sharing revenues.

[Sirioja]

I think the great pimps in Germany are akin to saints since they help sex refugees from the USA. Yes I have noted tattooed older German ladies speaking to motorcycle guys usually some look like bodybuilders (probably due to steroids or at least better food in Germany and not junk food like USA). At least these guys go to the weight room and do exercise unlike American pimps who mainly smoke marijuana and threaten people with guns. The German pimps are not evil and instead they are drawing in new talent which is commendable.

Also I have noted younger German girls who are non pimped and are just looking for adventurous sex related job due to their own high sex drive or need to get money fast. The best memory of Goldentime was a threesome with a Romanian girl and a young tall German girl. Each tried to outdo the other as to prove she had better service and this was good use of competition to improve service.

My meaning was many German WGs have Balkanian at home to who they give their money, so they didn't need to worry about in business. They could choose a good German guy working to make his money, like I do, but they are with pimp taking their money. Not only German oldies, pimps prefer fresh flesh. If you knew some of the prettiest Germans at GT, famous Sam, or supermodel Rose.

[DrPoon]

Have you ever been to GT Bruggen? Didn't you see German girls marked like cows with Balkanian pimp name written on their body. German girls are usually not pimped by blond blue eyed German but Turkish, Albanians, Afghans. Heard stories to cry at GT. Romanian girls are in brothels because of poverty and turned cultural organized by lazy guys peste not able to work, but most of German WGs come from real misery, not only poverty, in their childhood. Deep Rhur around Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen, is not paradise for all and may not be for little girls. Romanians are higher level educated than most of German WGs. I m surprised not to see more ex deep DDR like Zwickau, I remember great goalkeeper Jurgen Croy, or Chemnitz, in brothels, maybe because people are used to poverty ex CCCP there.

I think the great pimps in Germany are akin to saints since they help sex refugees from the USA. Yes I have noted tattooed older German ladies speaking to motorcycle guys usually some look like bodybuilders (probably due to steroids or at least better food in Germany and not junk food like USA). At least these guys go to the weight room and do exercise unlike American pimps who mainly smoke marijuana and threaten people with guns. The German pimps are not evil and instead they are drawing in new talent which is commendable.

Also I have noted younger German girls who are non pimped and are just looking for adventurous sex related job due to their own high sex drive or need to get money fast. The best memory of Goldentime was a threesome with a Romanian girl and a young tall German girl. Each tried to outdo the other as to prove she had better service and this was good use of competition to improve service.

[Sirioja]

I think the door policy was a good point for Goldentime because it encouraged new German girls to work there that they would not be subject to Turks or other sudlanders. Only experienced girls should be subject to such service after they get used to the environment else they be scared away from clubs prematurely.

Have you ever been to GT Bruggen? Didn't you see German girls marked like cows with Balkanian pimp name written on their body. German girls are usually not pimped by blond blue eyed German but Turkish, Albanians, Afghans. Heard stories to cry at GT. Romanian girls are in brothels because of poverty and turned cultural organized by lazy guys peste not able to work, but most of German WGs come from real misery, not only poverty, in their childhood. Deep Rhur around Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen, is not paradise for all and may not be for little girls. Romanians are higher level educated than most of German WGs. I m surprised not to see more ex deep DDR like Zwickau, I remember great goalkeeper Jurgen Croy, or Chemnitz, in brothels, maybe because people are used to poverty ex CCCP there.

[Bradford Boy]

Golden Time was my least favorite club in all of Germany. In fact, I shouldn't use the word "favorite" at all since I went there only once and never returned because I didn't like the way I was treated there. The place was well-known for its discriminatory practices, and for good reason. Good riddance!

Discriminatory practices you mention hey?

I remember once mentioning the same issues (Post 10-22-20 03:18) only to be ridiculed by members of this forum.

I didn't post again after reading the responses.

Now I hear the place got burnt down.

Regrettably now, the famous Guinness beer's slogan comes to mind; Good things come to those who wait.

[DrPoon]

As Pessimist said, I never wished for such a thing to happen. But it is what it is, and it so happens that I disliked the club for its well-known door policy practices, which drew certain types of girls with certain attitudes to work there. Not all, but definitely some. People are entitled to say that they liked GT. I too am entitled to say that I did not, and the reason why. In any event, as Smoke Light has noted, the FKK landscape in Germany is changed forever. Change. It happens. We can only carry on and hope for the very best for our favorite pastime.

I think the door policy was a good point for Goldentime because it encouraged new German girls to work there that they would not be subject to Turks or other sudlanders. Only experienced girls should be subject to such service after they get used to the environment else they be scared away from clubs prematurely.

[Sirioja]

Aren't the GT girls a bit too old to work at Oceans?

Rooms are quite dark at Oceans, good for GT oldies, when I love to contemplate beauty in daylight when rooms with window.