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  1. #8402

    Apology to Polyamorist.

    P. S. I owe a big apology to Polyamorist, who already recognised this trend a few years ago!

    I completely disagreed with him back then, but I have to admit that he was spot on! In GT it's not the management that is in charge, but a gang of working girls. As the proverb goes: "it's the lunatics who are in charge of the asylum," and the results are (now 3 years later) clearly visible.

    Polyamorist's post from March 2016: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ggen&p=1857150#post1857150.

  2. #8401
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    Friday, November 23.

    It was not very crowded based on GT standard. Food was ok, not what it used to be. May be these are signs that things are not going well for GT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    LU was disappointing....
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    On Saturday, November 24, I spent 3 hours and left without sessioning.
    Well, there is your answer.

    Sad to see one of my favourite clubs having gone downhill so much, but they (read: management) have only themselves to blame. Instead of a sauna-FKK club, the incompetent management has allowed GT to become a sort of hotel where you only can fuck hot girls after making a WhatsApp-Facebook appointment. (basically just like a normal brothel) Most clubs are quite restrictive about girls giving their contact details to customers, because;.

    1) they don't want girls meeting customers outside the club.

    2) appointment making on a massive scale (as in GT) completely kills the spontaneous atmosphere, and.

    3) not very pretty girls, who's phone numbers and sexual services are less in demand, are the only girls that remain available in the line up.

    Visiting GT without making prior arrangements, even for experienced club-goers, can lead to a rather disappointing and a boring afternoon of watching lots of men in white bathrobes. You'll end up chasing that one hot girl once she comes back from a session, as PussyLicker described:

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    I'm realy getting tired of few girls that guys are getting desperate to grab. One girl got asked by multiple men on her journey. Too many bears Sat that it would look overwhelmng for a new comer.
    So how to score phone numbers and Facebook profiles in order to make an appointment? Well, lots of visits to GT, lots of luck in meeting a hot sexy girl, and by not saying "no" to the upselling demands of the girls. Once you have finally obtained a phone number of a sexy bird and you messaged her for an appointment? Well, that's a 2 hour minimum if you want to make an appointment! That also explains why the rooms in GT are constantly occupied for such long periods: there is no flow or movement and that again explains why girls are so aggresively upselling because they only make money in the room, not if they are waiting for a key. Both men and women are almost 'scared' to leave the room, because it means joining the queue again at the back.

    It's a vicious circle.

    Most tourists and occasional visitors don't have the patience or money for this bullshit and after discovering that the remaining line-up sucks, they take their business elsewhere. That's what I've been doing for nearly 2 years now: avoiding GT. I've been mostly going to Sharks because there I can easily find a sexy girl, take her to a room (without 20-40 minute waiting for key), fuck her within 30 minutes or maximum 1 hour without too much upselling bullshit, take a shower, and be out looking for the next girl again.

    Only Dutch and Belgians continue to go to GT and keep the place from going bankrupt because it's close to the border, they are hopelessly naive, and too spineless to say "no" to the blatant upselling.

  3. #8400
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Just because 30 minutes with a working girl costs hundreds of Dollars in some sexually-deprived countries shouldn't mean that it should cost the same in Germany! Ever heard of demand v. S. Supply?

    Why should some communist 'central planner' decides how much the going rate should be for FKK clubs? Why should people "pay more" because some sex tourist thinks it's necessary to throw around money? Why don't those same sex tourists (who, mind you, fly thousands of miles to Germany in order to enjoy the freedoms we have here) not use their energy on changing the prudish attitude towards prostitution in their home country instead?

    Obviously Germany has been doing many things right with regards to prostitution over many centuries (duh, that's the very reason so many people come here for a short trip), so why not enjoy the ride and stop telling the Germans how to run their country?
    Seriouly, do you walk around pissed all the time? You folks complain about the quality but don't want to pay what the higher end market will bear. I am assuming you do not pick up the girls in the RLD because they do not meet your specs. But they are cheaper. The same goes with the FKKs. Since the price has not kept up with alternatives, you get lower class girls (looks etc.). The better girls have quit or gone to higher paying venues. Many went to Switzerland. Some have gone into the escort business. Even in Germany! They are still around. You just do not see them in the basic clubs. So, no I am not telling Germans how to run their country. I am telling people who enjoy the fruits of Germany to pay up or settle for what is left. The fact that many girls demand multiple hour bookings in advance at GT indicates that there are people who are willing to pay. It is just that some of you will not.

  4. #8399
    Flore, a 27 yo 180 cm tall Romanian girl. She spend as much time talking, complaining her pussy is sensitive, that she is tired etc. Be careful with this one.

    Probably she had her periods but still working like most of the girls, money for the BF or pimp is more important than health.

  5. #8398

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    Friday, November 23.

    It was not very crowded based on GT standard. Food was ok, not what it used to be. May be these are signs that things are not going well for GT.

    LU was disappointing but I managed to find the following 3 girls to session.

    Beatrice, a 28 yo tall Hungarian. Nice girl. Good session.

    Juliette, a 24 yo Romanian blonde. Good session.

    Flore, a 27 yo 180 cm tall Romanian girl. She spend as much time talking, complaining her pussy is sensitive, that she is tired etc. Be careful with this one.

    On Saturday, November 24, I spent 3 hours and left without sessioning.

  6. #8397
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Just because 30 minutes with a working girl costs hundreds of Dollars in some sexually-deprived countries shouldn't mean that it should cost the same in Germany! Ever heard of demand v. S. Supply?

    Why should some communist 'central planner' decides how much the going rate should be for FKK clubs? Why should people "pay more" because some sex tourist thinks it's necessary to throw around money? Why don't those same sex tourists (who, mind you, fly thousands of miles to Germany in order to enjoy the freedoms we have here) not use their energy on changing the prudish attitude towards prostitution in their home country instead?

    Obviously Germany has been doing many things right with regards to prostitution over many centuries (duh, that's the very reason so many people come here for a short trip), so why not enjoy the ride and stop telling the Germans how to run their country?
    I can just agree with you, so easy for the US or Chinese guys to change their own laws and to make prostitution as possible as in Germany.

  7. #8396
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    Sorry but the clubs are not recruiting girls, the girls are free to come or not.

  8. #8395
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    Just because 30 minutes with a working girl costs hundreds of Dollars in some sexually-deprived countries shouldn't mean that it should cost the same in Germany! Ever heard of demand v. S. Supply?

    Why should some communist 'central planner' decides how much the going rate should be for FKK clubs? Why should people "pay more" because some sex tourist thinks it's necessary to throw around money? Why don't those same sex tourists (who, mind you, fly thousands of miles to Germany in order to enjoy the freedoms we have here) not use their energy on changing the prudish attitude towards prostitution in their home country instead?

    Obviously Germany has been doing many things right with regards to prostitution over many centuries (duh, that's the very reason so many people come here for a short trip), so why not enjoy the ride and stop telling the Germans how to run their country?

  9. #8394
    Akibono, would you kindly clue us in, which "plenty of venues" you might be thinking of? Esp. those with younger women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.

  10. #8393
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    Actually they raised from 75 / h to 100/ h and it's a lot more than inflation.
    Same for LR and Samya.

    At GT or LR, could have 5 hours for 275.

  11. #8392
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    I'm not a huge fan of the GT line-up at the moment but the issue is not that there is a lack of ladies at the door. First, some ladies who have been working there for years have customers who have aged with them and in some cases arrive every week for that lady that they met 10, 7, 5, 3 years ago. Bumping these ladies off the roster would likely upset some of these regular clients who fill the club most days of the week. GT also still frequently denies or expels women who don't provide the expected service levels. I hear talk of it being acceptable to pay rates like at other clubs, too me this means €200-300 per hour, but in the same breath I hear about upselling long sessions to get a phone number. So in this scenario it's OK to pay €150 per half hour but not ok to pay €175 for 90 minutes with the same extras. I say your misery in true upselling clubs is looking down the autobahn and wishing misery on those of us who still regularly benefit from the price structure at a majority of NRW clubs. You say prices haven't changed in ten years but the €100 per hour was a 25% boost. I would still rather spend time in most any NRW club with women who are not all stunners but give great service than in a club where I need a 3 page menu and smart phone app to calculate the price of a 30 minute session. Honestly, the 130 or so ladies I saw at my last visit to Sharks were miserable, continually running from man to man, trying to get someone to agree to their overpriced offerings. If it was that great in clubs like this there would be one hour waiting times for a room there too.

  12. #8391
    The only driver for the girls is the cash, they want to suck as much they can by giving the less possible but this is the business model of many many companies around the world. GT is a dead FKK. New law less and less new girls, Romanian mafia are controlling the ops. I hope that the girls are earning a lot now because I am not sure it will last for long so many senior mongers are leaving our passion for so many years like me for new ones like classics cars, mountain bike.

  13. #8390
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.
    The only driver for the girls is the cash, they want to suck as much they can by giving the less possible but this is the business model of many many companies around the world. GT is a de.

  14. #8389
    Actually they raised from 75 / h to 100/ h and it's a lot more than inflation.

  15. #8388
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    Spot on mate! I'm happy to read that I'm not the only one who has been seeing this. As many people here know, I was a big fan of GT, but for the last 1,5 years I have been mostly avoiding the place.

    GT used to be a place where you could go to for a nice afternoon, and be pleasantly surprised by meeting a nice girl. Nowadays you have to write half a dozen girls via Facebook or Whatsapp to make an appointment, and those up-selling girls will only sell you their phone number / Facebook if you agree to their upsell tactics for 1,5-2 hours minimum and give them a nice big tip.

    No thanks. GT is mostly dead boring, lousy line-up and a gay party of men with white bathrobes.
    For the occasional visitor or tourist who likes optics and doesn't want to give in to upsell tactics in order to acquire phone numbers, I would strongly suggest to avoid GT.

    As the ultimate illustration of how bad GT has become: I spotted Sylvana (ex-Sharks) in GT about one month ago!
    What is also true is the fact that prices have barely risen in over 10 years. Want better girls? Pay more. There are plenty of venues where top girls can be found. But it will cost you more than 100 E per hour. That is also the reason why GT has had difficulty in recruiting younger girls.

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