Sauna Club Golden Time - Bruggen

[Mike De H]

Well I am on of a bit of a tour, Dusseldorf and Frankfurt. Last time I went Mongering was July, the day after the "new Law" ruined everything. Went to Dolce Vita twice, Mainhatten once, World Once, Living Room once and Goldentime Twice. There were some very mixed experiences and I am starting to learn more about myself. I am twelve years into FKK visiting now and I am still getting insights, including the fact that I have to face up to getting older and Prostitutes are boring. Or are they? Clubs are. Or are they?

So, I am unsure about talking names here because I do want to give useful info on the BBJ / BBBJ ratio and my thughts on the whole thing, its effect as far as I can see on the industry, based on a perspective that goes back to the times when beautiful Russian girls would dominate these places and you got beauty AND service and always BBBJ. To 2008 when girls were doing AO without even you having to ask, because they were so desperate, to modern times when I think the industry is going through change and girls are trying to re-adjust to a changing world, as are the clubs themselves. The influx of unfussy chinese customers, the loss of control ovr girls and the tightening economy are all pushing things in differing or warring directions. Quality is where you can find it, not where it used to be.

Over two visits basically I did three girls at GT and the CBJ to BBJ ratio was 100% BBBJ without having to ask. The reason is, 1) you don't ask. And 2) chose girls that want to earn extra with the come in mouth option. One could have a covered BJ then shoot for the mouth with some accuracy, but such scenarios are silly at best. These girls are practical. Over the last three visit that is 4 girls and 100% uncovered hit rate. That is NOT the case at other clubs.

The first night, the Tuesday, I have to say I was rocked, stunned and amazed at the quality of the girls. There was a Trade Fair in town. The local German girls were out in force, including one very clever and cute "Kimmy" who I did not go with, with a left breast nipple ring, showering in the main showers. I want this girl very much, a future visit perhaps. My first GT visit was 2005. In that time it was very hard core. Almost no English was spoken and I needed a translator to talk to the girls. A lot of girls did not really want to work and were there to pass the day and earn a bit of money or hang around with wealthy gangsta types with the huge biceps and the tribal tatoos. (Anyone romember that bunch)? You could get good service but it was a slog.

GT has come on a lot since those days. OK, the girls were nice and the service usually (but not always) good, but looking on the past with rose coloured spectacles is never my thing. I have to say, that night, when you look at the beautiful faces all around, the great food, the wonderful tents, the free beer, and the fact quality of service remains high, you have to be sanguine about a pesky new law, the 1 am close, the sea of ice-bears and the loss of the 25 euros for the second half hour. In fact, that makes me less lazy about the next ten minutes and has saved me money and improved the quality of the sex a I am under pressure to get a move on. So its not all bad. Now its 50 for every half I am actually saving money. Who would have thought.

The first girl I did was called similar to Magdalena, Polish, excellent all round service. She is a quiet girl, almost shy. Demure, black haired and poised. Recommended. Once was enough having been to DV the night before. I went on to LR, where "Romana" showed me around since I haven't been there since its early days and a lot changed in the last ten years. I can see why you punters go on about her. Pretty and a lot of fun. I didn't have the desire or testosterone to do anything and the rooms are just a bit too basic for me. But the staff were kind and funny and the girls of good quality. Just one of those things. Back to GT quality of lineup. Somewhere was one girl who looked like a young Marilyn Monroe on a red bikini and suspenders. Permanently busy, always did the full half hour. I didn't dare. I was never one for the "Optikfuck". But she made me re-think my tactics. Maybe optikfuck is OK in these times of more restrictive service?

The second visit, last Friday, the quality of girls was much less. The Halloween decorations were going up and I think the pretty ones were waiting at home for the big nights of Saturday and Monday. Having said that, there were still options, but the good lookers being busy. Wait for rooms was about 10 minutes which was OK because you get extra time with the girl.

First of the night was a German crazy girl (something like Jennifer) with a clownish sense of humour and OEM headlights (I normally hate silicon, but she had this rocki bod.) and big tatoos down the side and leg. Great Service, not too formula. Good for a German woman. Normally they are a bit controlling but she was OK.

Second was a girl who's name began with a T was an unusual choice for me. I decided on the Optikfuck. I expected nothing and got. Well, my head blown off. Almost literally. She looks like a young Demi Moore (but actually prettier) and I could not help but notice the Masseur could not stop groping her when she walked past. He spoke five languages and I did the very rare Finish in Mouth. Only four girls have managed that on me in 12 years. THAT'S how good she was. She is away until middle of December. So don't go there expecting to see here. When I say pretty, I mean. Well, look at the pic I uploaded and you will see.

All in all, GT kept my faith in Germany. If it were not for this place I would not go back to FKK in Germany until the current situation of flux has calmed down. Funny incident of the night goes to T who I asked "Kussen Du, in Zimmer" and she replied, the only thing I don't do is a don't lick pussy. I said it was fine because I didn't have a pussy. She then pointed out her English was a bit broken. she meant I couldn't lick HER pussy. Ah well I said, its just as well, because I charge for doing that. looking back on it, some girls might take offense, but she didn;t and so its always best to start the session with a bit of laugh.

[Mr Ho]

Buying bags and purses for regular girls (or WGs for that matter) is rarely a good idea. If the gifts become too routine, they turn into expectations. They take you for granted. They know they can emotionally control you and use you as they please. If she will leave you if you stop giving her purses, bags, or money, then you don't need her. Fuck her a few times, and let her leave. You should have some self-respect.

I meant normal girls and prostitutes has thin line in between and both are similar.

[McAdonis]

For me, all girls are pro in one way or another, some you pay with bags, shoes

Buying bags and purses for regular girls (or WGs for that matter) is rarely a good idea. If the gifts become too routine, they turn into expectations. They take you for granted. They know they can emotionally control you and use you as they please. If she will leave you if you stop giving her purses, bags, or money, then you don't need her. Fuck her a few times, and let her leave. You should have some self-respect.

[Pistons]

For me, all girls are pro in one way or another, some you pay with bags, shoes, some you pay with financial security, some you pay cash directly in brothel.

What are the difference, it is all similar, but in difference form of payment LOL.

The difference is that Fiat is worthless and so you cannot define it as prostitution. While bags and shoes etc as payment would classify them as tutes.

[Takedown]

I swear some guys really need to get a GF when I see them in clubs. LOL. It's like they've fallen in love as an ATM machine.

Mongering styles may differ. A mixture of different room types / lengths keeps it interesting. Doing some half hour rooms mixed in with some really long rooms gives you the full spectrum of the hobby. On the other hand, going to a ton of clubs, not taking a moment to enjoy the facilities and relax can be quite exhausting and stressful. It becomes apparent that the hobby becomes stressful for some mongers. For me, that takes the fun out of the hobby and becomes work while I'm supposed to be on vacation.

[PussyLiccker]

Not to be sappy, but the big difference is that regular girls also give you a bit more security in the home and womanly comfort during non sex time.

I swear some guys really need to get a GF when I see them in clubs. LOL. It's like they've fallen in love as an ATM machine.

[Takedown]

For me, all girls are pro in one way or another, some you pay with bags, shoes, some you pay with financial security, some you pay cash directly in brothel.

What are the difference, it is all similar, but in difference form of payment LOL.

Not to be sappy, but the big difference is that regular girls also give you a bit more security in the home and womanly comfort during non sex time.

[Mr Ho]

I would say a pro is a gal that only does this and does this on a very regular basis (I. E many years in a row). There are in fact such women at every club who do this and nothing else. There is in my opinion no club which has more pros than others, it's just part of the mix. There are women who come to build a home in their 3rd world country which could take a year or so. Depending on the cost of such a project. There are women who are putting themselves thru college and come and go as they can to supplement their costs. They do this for several years and may appear as a regular. I would hardly call a girl whose working her way thru college and did this for a few years on a regular basis a pro. There was a MILF GT Polish gal who went by the name Sonia, blonde, big implants, tanned who was known for being a bit loud. She now works at LR. This is her sole income and she has been in this business for a good decade I would say she's a perfect example of what I consider a pro. Bernd's was well known for having women who did this for a living, a couple of such women are Angie and Jacky both German's who have done this for over a decade and will even admit this is their profession. BMy point is there is a line between pro and part time and part time can be on a regular basis. This is in response to "One thing I noticed this visit compared to past visits is the absence of non pro German girls (those who work occasionally)". My conclusion is if one does not know the girls background or history it's difficult to say if she is a pro.

I've heard the term "Hobby* which can be applied to girls who work at the clubs, they pick and choose their clients by their taste not just money. Once in a while such a HW will appear at a club and it's obvious she's working because she enjoys sex as well as making some extra cash. There are tons of single mothers who were left with the role of caring for a child who got into this business. I've also heard of men saying a provider's service was "pro or GFE". There are women who have been doing this for a decade who just know how to have good sex and provide GFE service. While newbies are all mechanical not because they hate the job but because they don't know any better. We can call some guests "pros" because they're at the club on a weekly or daily basis.

For me, all girls are pro in one way or another, some you pay with bags, shoes, some you pay with financial security, some you pay cash directly in brothel.

What are the difference, it is all similar, but in difference form of payment LOL.

[Derk]

I just want to clarify one thing first. Everything I share in my trip reports is usually applies to the days and times of my visits, which is a very specific / narrow context. One may arrive at very different conclusions if taken out of context.

My definition of pro and non-pro is very close to yours. I consider girl is pro if she works regularly week after week. I also include those girls who work few weeks or a month and take break for few weeks / months and do the same again and again. Oksana falls into the second category. She doesn't work regularly. She works 2-3 weeks, goes home for a month or two and comes back and works 2-3 weeks. I consider her as a pro. I put girls in non-pro category who doesn't have a fixed schedule. They tend to work a day or two here and there, may be (occasional) weekends, and usually has some other job or studying.

As you said, may be nothing has changed as for a GT lineup is concerned. I can't say that because I visited only about 6 days in last 5 months (which is very obvious based on my reports). As a tourist I get to sample very thin slice of the lineup in every club I visit. All I do is share my experience and observations here. From all the reports from tourists and regulars hopefully readers would be able to pick patterns and get an idea about what's going on in a club.

I would say a pro is a gal that only does this and does this on a very regular basis (I. E many years in a row). There are in fact such women at every club who do this and nothing else. There is in my opinion no club which has more pros than others, it's just part of the mix. There are women who come to build a home in their 3rd world country which could take a year or so. Depending on the cost of such a project. There are women who are putting themselves thru college and come and go as they can to supplement their costs. They do this for several years and may appear as a regular. I would hardly call a girl whose working her way thru college and did this for a few years on a regular basis a pro. There was a MILF GT Polish gal who went by the name Sonia, blonde, big implants, tanned who was known for being a bit loud. She now works at LR. This is her sole income and she has been in this business for a good decade I would say she's a perfect example of what I consider a pro. Bernd's was well known for having women who did this for a living, a couple of such women are Angie and Jacky both German's who have done this for over a decade and will even admit this is their profession. BMy point is there is a line between pro and part time and part time can be on a regular basis. This is in response to "One thing I noticed this visit compared to past visits is the absence of non pro German girls (those who work occasionally)". My conclusion is if one does not know the girls background or history it's difficult to say if she is a pro.

I've heard the term "Hobby* which can be applied to girls who work at the clubs, they pick and choose their clients by their taste not just money. Once in a while such a HW will appear at a club and it's obvious she's working because she enjoys sex as well as making some extra cash. There are tons of single mothers who were left with the role of caring for a child who got into this business. I've also heard of men saying a provider's service was "pro or GFE". There are women who have been doing this for a decade who just know how to have good sex and provide GFE service. While newbies are all mechanical not because they hate the job but because they don't know any better. We can call some guests "pros" because they're at the club on a weekly or daily basis. Clubs call these guests "regulars". Some of these guests have been going to the same club for a decade or more. If you visit enough clubs on a regular basis you'll notice the same faces. I've asked staff how often do they visit (being staff is there almost all the time) and sometimes they claim they're there several times a week, even daily. Again maybe a double standard of calling someone "pro" by how often they're at a club and over a period of time. Finally I guess the best way to determine if a girl is a "pro" is asking her questions or having seen her for a decade or more. Assuming is where we get into trouble and start rumors or false info. Good question, do you think most wormen are here for a short time (couple of years) or as a choosen profession? I think most are part timers and only last a few years till they move on. My reasoning is my experience of seeing women depart the business after a period of time. Very few stay for the long haul or to see pro status. Find an older one and ask how long they've been doing this and you're likely to find a real pro.

[PussyLiccker]

Lalabo, if you like tall girls, surprised you haven't been with Rose, De. She's quite tall and looks good. Has a model walk. LOL.

I can understand Lalabo. I sometimes wonder who I have not seen or met on the days I pick to visit. There's a bit of rotation with part of the LU.

I think June is when the club picks up.

Big disappointment was one WG awhile back mentioned she'd go drive buses for a living. Odd, from WG to driver. I guess both are inclusive of shafts and driving. LOL. I've heard of non-regular WGs that holds another job limits their to showings to weekends. Some travel a distance so they stick around a week or two, disappear and then come back, etc. . And another girl I know just showed random days, but was super rare days. There are ones that has schedule of client to see on certain times would show if they attend less. So, this created a rotation type effect.

This is more of an effect in clubs with greater nonRo populous as Ro usually are ones to work for a significant durations working as much days possible and then take their holidays since they venture out to De in comparison to girls living in De.

[Lalabo]

I heard Oksana is pretty and a top provider, but never seen her or don't know who she is. Same for Selma as well.

When I saw Oksana in early June she had curly hair and she looked like very young Nicole kidman. In September she had straight hair, didn't look so much like young Nicole Kidman. Still she is pretty, has a mole above he upper lip (not as close to the lip as Cindy) like Cindy Crawford. She is tall, has great attitude and funny. Only issue with her is she doesn't do CIM.

My memory is bit fuzzy about Selma. She is an young beautiful girl with slim body. Her face does have some middle eastern features. The moment she walked into the GT lounge my eyes gravitated towards her, went and talked to her a bit then took her to room and enjoyed all the goodies she has top, bottom, front and back for an hour.

[Lalabo]

Thanks for the report. May I ask how you know the difference between a pro and a non-pro? Do you go to GT that often to know which girls are always there? I was there about 2 weeks ago and did not notice any change in less German girls. Perhaps the term pro means different things to different people but I would say the gals who work there weekly as if it's a full time job could be considered pro. Then again I don't see that much difference from GT and other clubs as far as pro and non-pro. Let's say a gal is working for a year to put herself through college does that make her a pro? Many of these girls do this as a temp job. Just my 2 cents. There is a difference in what days you visit as well, Sundays and Tuesday may not be the same as Thursdays-Saturdays which are usually more peak attendance days. Local girls I've known for a while say they'll only work until they're forced to register but that's a way off. I visited recently at least a dozen times in a month and noticed no change.

I just want to clarify one thing first. Everything I share in my trip reports is usually applies to the days and times of my visits, which is a very specific / narrow context. One may arrive at very different conclusions if taken out of context.

My definition of pro and non-pro is very close to yours. I consider girl is pro if she works regularly week after week. I also include those girls who work few weeks or a month and take break for few weeks / months and do the same again and again. Oksana falls into the second category. She doesn't work regularly. She works 2-3 weeks, goes home for a month or two and comes back and works 2-3 weeks. I consider her as a pro. I put girls in non-pro category who doesn't have a fixed schedule. They tend to work a day or two here and there, may be (occasional) weekends, and usually has some other job or studying.

As you said, may be nothing has changed as for a GT lineup is concerned. I can't say that because I visited only about 6 days in last 5 months (which is very obvious based on my reports). As a tourist I get to sample very thin slice of the lineup in every club I visit. All I do is share my experience and observations here. From all the reports from tourists and regulars hopefully readers would be able to pick patterns and get an idea about what's going on in a club.

[Sirioja]

Blond slim Luci. Hu still at GT. Aylin. At Sharks is with her friend Liz. De at GT.

What a disappointing casting on this Saturday.

[PussyLiccker]

I heard Oksana is pretty and a top provider, but never seen her or don't know who she is. Same for Selma as well.

[Lalabo]

I had visited the club thrice: on 2 Sundays and on a Tuesday.

This report was from my visits on 17,19 and 24th of September.