Sauna Club Golden Time - Bruggen

[FKKclubs]

Completely FALSE statement! There is indeed a license and a certified document for being a Tour Guide. Thousands of serious professionals have one. I have one! You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

False and misleading statements like the one quoted above just show that at least some of your "operation" is built on BULLSHIT!

O

I do not understand why you react the way you do. I offer a high class, top end service to the people who want to use it, and you are probably not in my target group and that is fine.

[FKKclubs]

Better screw by the girls than the by the FKK tour company / guide. Or if you are unlucky you got screw by both.

Quote from the FKK tour website:

"Guides also do the driving and are very familiar with the terrain.

Guides did advanced driving training.

Their knowledge will come in handy for ATM's, Banks, Money Exchange, Food and Sightseeing.

An experienced guide and driver allows you to kick back and relax in between clubs and ensures you get from point A to point B quickly and safely both day and night.

Clubs are almost always in remote rural areas and hard to find."

LOL, LOL, come on! It's Germany not the jungle in Columbia.

GPS is your friend. Every smartphone has GPS.

When traveling abroad, you don't want to be bothered finding out where to go and where to stay and what the best places are. I have been all over the world many times and I would have really appreciate is when I could locate this kind of service in other countries. Sure when you take your time to surf the internet, you will always be able to find your way and never need some kind of help or tour guide, but all over the world, in touristic places, cities, or historic places or cultural places you find tour guides. And people use these kind of service. We offer top-end service for a specific group of people. You might not need it, some people do. .

Hahaha and I do agree that Germany is not the jungle in Columbia. Maybe a little to strong worded on the website. Might adjust that a little.

[Pheasantplucker]

Spent a few hours lazing in the sun in the garden at GT last Friday and recovering from my sessions with Lovely, Lin and Martina.

Stayed until late and enjoyed the food which seems to have improved a lot over the years I have known GT.

3 x GFE experiences, laid back atmosphere, a modicum of intelligent conversation at the bar. What a great way to start the weekend!

PP

[Vito Corleone]

Not sure if this has been posted, but starting April 1st 60euro entry. Not a big deal for me, but interesting. I sure hope they use the extra 10 euro to get another person to help with the ridiculous long lines for food.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Why are we discussing the tour guide business in the GT forum?

Please continue in the general section.

[Ortos]

There is no way that you can check credentials, there is no such thing as a tourguide certificate, and that will never be there,

Completely FALSE statement! There is indeed a license and a certified document for being a Tour Guide. Thousands of serious professionals have one. I have one! You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

False and misleading statements like the one quoted above just show that at least some of your "operation" is built on BULLSHIT!

O

[Ortos]

There is no business license, no way to check credentials.

No credentials, qualifications or license or anything, period! So one wonders if these tours are, according to the letter of the law, legal at all? Hey, why not call the "Tax Polizei" just like they do for the FKK club girls, just to make sure the guys who run these tours pay the BundesRepublik their fair share of the earnings? A Razzia on the FKK tours, LOL!

O

[Nille Copenhagen]

A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.

Better screw by the girls than the by the FKK tour company / guide. Or if you are unlucky you got screw by both.

Quote from the FKK tour website:

"Guides also do the driving and are very familiar with the terrain.

Guides did advanced driving training.

Their knowledge will come in handy for ATM's, Banks, Money Exchange, Food and Sightseeing.

An experienced guide and driver allows you to kick back and relax in between clubs and ensures you get from point A to point B quickly and safely both day and night.

Clubs are almost always in remote rural areas and hard to find."

LOL, LOL, come on! It's Germany not the jungle in Columbia.

GPS is your friend. Every smartphone has GPS.

[FKKclubs]

Well keep your info up to date, there are penty of internet forums (given that you guys speak German, Dutch and English) that can help you out (all for free!). There really is no excuse for not mentioning Oase. I also don't understand the need to visit two clubs a day; GT and LR sure, Freude and another club also not that weird, but in the Frankfurt area I wouldn't know what club would warrant a 'morning visit'.

The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?

Nooo you are absolute right about Oase. It was on the list, but somehow overseen. Shame shame, missed some quality check. I will take the non FKK clubs from the list, FKKTours and me are in the same business, but since it is nog verz good scalable, there is enough business for us 2, I do not exlcude a partner ship in the future, to help eachother out in certain situations, and I live in Amsterdam, so I can be in the NRW area within a few hours, with a nice new BMW 5 series L, to pick you up, that is maybe 1 usp. 2 clubs on 1 day sounds like a lot, but staying in 1 club the entire day, can get a little to much, especially when it is not your club of choice. You can only do 2 clubs per day in the areas where are enough clubs, otherwise you spent more time in the car then in the clubs.

[FKKclubs]

A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.

There is no way that you can check credentials, there is no such thing as a tourguide certificate, and that will never be there, I am fiancially not depending on this business. To build some confidence I have added my LInkedIn profile to this site. The only reason why I want to offer this kind of service is found in the fact that it is all legal, clean and beautifull locations, with gorgeous women. And I want to share this.

An other group of people I focus on is the guys from corporate, and the visitors from the corporate office guys, that come to visit Europe, what I offer them is an exellent night out, without any hassle, I pick them up, we go the club (s) where hey want to go, and I drop them of at their hotel. My business case is the time I spent with a fee, and If you are on the road for 14 hours and you charge them 500 euro, s, I think it is fair.

It is a matter of confidence and trust. But how do you bring that accross, using a website. Anyway. I will keep developing this and hope that it will grow as expected. It is not scalable and full is full.

Thank you for your feed-back. It is apreciated. The website is still worked on, and indeed missing Oase is pretty stupid. The other comments are taken seriously and will be corrected in the next version.

[Breadman]

The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?

A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.

[Free Dude]

I think we can come up with 1 mio other reasons where we can cut out the middle man, and where we can be more efficient with our money to support and help Nigeria. Or not? And I guarantee the newbies a top class service. And I believe that in the top segment there is still a need for this service. So that is why I want to invest this, and what I said before, this started for fun, and we will see what will come out of it. I enjoy visiting these clubs, I like the concept, its clean, transparent and if I can help other people, we have a win win situation.

Well keep your info up to date, there are penty of internet forums (given that you guys speak German, Dutch and English) that can help you out (all for free!). There really is no excuse for not mentioning Oase. I also don't understand the need to visit two clubs a day; GT and LR sure, Freude and another club also not that weird, but in the Frankfurt area I wouldn't know what club would warrant a 'morning visit'.

The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?

[FKKclubs]

I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.

I think we can come up with 1 mio other reasons where we can cut out the middle man, and where we can be more efficient with our money to support and help Nigeria. Or not? And I guarantee the newbies a top class service. And I believe that in the top segment there is still a need for this service. So that is why I want to invest this, and what I said before, this started for fun, and we will see what will come out of it. I enjoy visiting these clubs, I like the concept, its clean, transparent and if I can help other people, we have a win win situation.

[Nille Copenhagen]

I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.

If newbies have found their way to this forum, they won't need a to pay for a guide, there are tons of tips and info in here.

[Breadman]

I just wonder why would someone pay for a tour-guide for FKK-land (Sorry to offend somebody, but only guys from NAM would do that). FKK-land is safe and and the girls don't bite unless you pay them to do it.

I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.