FKK Cocoon - Wuppertal

[Travelerb69]

Dude,

If you want to continue your tour of the great clubs of yesteryear, I suggest you visit FKK Atlantis, FKK Wiago and FKK Babylon.

Actually that would be a proper name for that night's tour-Cocoon and Park Sauna- great clubs of yesterday... At least it was good to update the info here. This trip was a long one, I had plenty of time, not only to P4P, so I wanted to get to know many clubs, not only the few best ones. And yes, I will probably pay Babilon a visit next trip, there have been some good new reports here.

[Ekliges Lauern]

I wanted to try a red carpet club and had read good reports about it here, so went there on a Tuesday, at about 8:00 pm.

From there I went to Park Sauna, trip report to be continued there.

Dude,

Just what were you thinking? Cocoon had positive reports years ago. I visited the club back in its day, sort of liked it, but not enough to make it a regular destination. There are so many better choices out there. If you want to experience a former RCC, Freude 39 in Bochum gets generally but not universally positive reviews.

Same goes for PSW. It was a destination club years ago. It dropped off the map about the same time GT opened.

Just a tip, but when you are reading threads for destinations, make sure the reviews that sway you are within the last year.

If you want to continue your tour of the great clubs of yesteryear, I suggest you visit FKK Atlantis, FKK Wiago and FKK Babylon.

[Travelerb69]

I wanted to try a red carpet club and had read good reports about it here, so went there on a Tuesday, at about 8:00 pm. There is a parking lot behind it which is accessed by a secondary street just after the main entrance, at first I parked in the front but that is just for the staff. Got in, told it was my first time there and a very young girl with glasses started to explain price structure in a terrible English, till a point I did not understand, asked her something and she just began to repeat everything, she had just memorized it, fine, no problem, I understood it anyway, and was told there were only 5 girls at the club, one of them just went by naked, doable, It was happy hour time, 35 euros to get in, ok, let’s go. Normal entrance price 50 euros,I would not pay that, same price as Golden Time or LR, no way, but 35 was fine. I do not remember exactly the price structure because I did not fuck there, but it was cheap, starting at something like 25 euros for 20 minutes. I also noticed a kind of an award, written in german but I could understand that it was given to Cocoon as being considered one of the best 100 clubs in Germany, it is hanged on the wall just right to the counter entrance. Very funny, first because only in Germany would they have a rank of sex clubs, and moreover, imagine the total number of clubs if they have a prize for the one hundred better ones…Also shows that Cocoon has known better days, I doubt it would be awarded nowadays.

I do not remember also having seen a red carpet there, where is it? However all the coaches were red, a dark and decadent atmosphere, food was only soup and bread. And soon I realized that I had seen the only doable woman there, the other 4 were real dogs… And not very friendly, either. The 5th and doable girl only showed up again when I was at the locker room about to leave, so did not fuck anyone, just lost my 35 euros. I also had read here that Turkish people are sometimes declined entrance there, however most guys I saw there looked Turkish to me. There were about 8 guests there, so I doubt they can decline anybody nowadays.
As I was leaving I asked the friendly counter girl with poor english how many girls on a day like Friday or Saturday, she said about 15, than she said to me Bye, see you tomorrow- not gonna happen. May be it was a bad day, but I have no intention of going there again, unless reports here convince me of the contrary.

Travelerb69

From there I went to Park Sauna, trip report to be continued there.

[CBGBConnisur]

I frequented this club during late May of last year, I thought it was actually pretty good compared to other establishments in the NRW like Living Room and Babylon. It really depends upon how you click with the girls, getting here from Dusseldorf is easy, you can take the S-Bahn to Wuppertal Oberbarmen and then a bus to Schmiedstr. then walk briefly and you are there.

I recall one Romanian-German, Cindy, seemed kind of cold and aloof initially but turned out to treat me good. There was also a tall German Mandy, and a Turkish(But looked white) Lara who was only at the club once.

Quality of service is a matter of opinion, if you are someone who goes to Amsterdam, even the lower FKK clubs are prime quality in comparison, if you are used to North American escorts, the lowest clubs will amaze.

[Wolfram]

The place is for sure a bit more run down than GT or some of the other clubs in NRW. But this I think is also reflected in the pricing and from my point of view there was nothing wrong with the attitude of the girls, they were a bit laid back in the lounge room, but I found my providers to be quite close to GF experience. We had lots of laughs and nice chats in between sessions.

I and my friend were invited to meet with two them in the weekend to go to the carnival in Dusseldorf…. Sure as hell would have been an interesting night, but unfortunately we were flying out the next day.

But as always I guess it has a lot to do with chemistry.


Wolf

[DeepVoid]

General
My plan was to spend 2 days up by Dusseldorf for work during the day and play at night. I love partytreff’s so I planned on Mettman for day 1 and Bernds for day 2. Well the airplane gods screwed up my flight so instead of arriving in the early morning day 1 and taking a leisurely drive leaving time for a nap before the festivities I arrived at 7PM. Well I wasn’t gonna let Lufthansa screw up my plans so…..

I will put the details in the appropriate section but here are the highlights of a wild couple days.

Day 1
Check in to hotel in Novatel in Wuppertal (close to Mettman). It was too late for Mettman but I was horny so I drove 10 minutes to Cocoon. BAD place bad attitude.

Day 2
- Mettman breakfast fuck. 11am – 2PM FUN – Kinky – laid back
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1909

- Drive to Hennef to http://www.hotel-marktterrassen.de/ - AWESOME
- Rest
- Bernds – OMG!!!!! http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=789

Cocoon
I didn’t have high expectations. Entrance is only 35 Euro and a session is 25 Euro if CBJ or 25 Euro if BBBJ. The atmosphere was surly. I don’t speak German but I get along with just about anyone. Even the Germans were commenting on the bad attitude of the girls. Finally gestured to a tiny Turkish girl to go to the room. She turned out to be very sweet and I had a nice little session so I could get to sleep.
I doubt I will return.

[Jackyo]

In the reseption it was a flyer for a new FKK,
I dont reamember the name and forgot the flyer.
They told me it was about 20 minutes to drive to this FKK from Cocoon.
Someone who know the name and could give a report?

Cocoon was really good about 2 ears ago!
Last time in the summer I could not find a girl more than 5 on my scale.

... whose name escapes me at the moment.

It could be Amnesia but I also could be wrong. Or is Amnesia the sister club of Heavensgate and not Cocoon?

I always get these two clubs mixed up.

[James 006]

In the reseption it was a flyer for a new FKK,
I dont reamember the name and forgot the flyer.
They told me it was about 20 minutes to drive to this FKK from Cocoon.
Someone who know the name and could give a report?

Cocoon was really good about 2 ears ago!
Last time in the summer I could not find a girl more than 5 on my scale.

[Eric Burden]

Went to Cocoon recently for first time in the early afternoon. Very poor. 35euro to get infor happy hour. Practically no food except a few sandwiches. The facilities were run down, the sauna had a broken light, crowded locker room and sauna area.

Only a few girls, not very friendly or aproachable. It sounded like they only wanted german customers ( i am white and speak some German).

I didn't see anything I liked and left early.

EB

[Iseeu]

.. and its not been for the better.

I did confirm that the hotel right beside has been sold and with that sale, access to those rooms is now gone.

They are down to five rooms in the main building and a couple of Kuschelecken. They did say that during parties they would simply have sessions out in the open but I didn't see any when I was there.

I arrived at about 1 PM and stayed until the early evening.

With fewer rooms at their disposal there are also fewer women who work here than I've seen before. Its that Teufelskreis all over again: few women, so customers want to come but few women want to work there because there are few customers, and over and over again.

There was little of everything: one Thai chick, one black chick, several dark haired Russians, and then the traditional Polish blondes versus the German blondes.

Lots of guys came and went but there wasn't much business being transacted, for some reason. In contrast to the athmosphere in most clubs, there isn't much interaction between customers here.

The girls talk amongst themselves but only with members of their cliques.

I had a very similar experience when I visted earlier in the year- very little interaction, very little business happening, no couch action at all, although I felt that the lineup, with the enthusiastic amateurs, was decent- not great, but serviceable.
I didn't like their price list. Makes everything too retail- "Hmm, let's see I gave you a BBBJ for 20 minutes and stuck my finger in the a-hole? That will be 110 Euro please."
Is a shame- this club used to rock...

[Jackyo]

Are they still doing 20 minute bookings with extra for bbbj and are the rates the same?

25 Euros for twenty minutes with a condom, 35 Euros for twenty minutes without a condom.

50 Euros for forty minutes with a condom, 60 Euros for forty minutes without a condom.

I am not a BJ fan and so the BBBJ option is all the same to me.

If what I heard about BBBJs being banned in Bayern becomes a trend, the worst case is that BBBJs become banned everywhere.

[Breadman]

The one thing which has definitely changed here is the Abrechnung. Before you settled your bill just as you left. Nowadays, you have your session, she follows you to your locker and you settle with her right there.

A little more straightforward and there is no more risk of your having a billing dispute with her as you are ready to leave.

Are they still doing 20 minute bookings with extra for bbbj and are the rates the same?

[Jackyo]

.. and its not been for the better.

I did confirm that the hotel right beside has been sold and with that sale, access to those rooms is now gone.

They are down to five rooms in the main building and a couple of Kuschelecken. They did say that during parties they would simply have sessions out in the open but I didn't see any when I was there.

I arrived at about 1 PM and stayed until the early evening.

With fewer rooms at their disposal there are also fewer women who work here than I've seen before. Its that Teufelskreis all over again: few women, so customers want to come but few women want to work there because there are few customers, and over and over again.

There was little of everything: one Thai chick, one black chick, several dark haired Russians, and then the traditional Polish blondes versus the German blondes.

Lots of guys came and went but there wasn't much business being transacted, for some reason. In contrast to the athmosphere in most clubs, there isn't much interaction between customers here.

The girls talk amongst themselves but only with members of their cliques.

Everything stayed the same in terms of physical arrangements. The sauna is nice and hot and they have one of the few indoor pools still being used at an FKK club in the Ruhrgebiet.

I was there on a Saturday and the food was served promptly at 5 PM. It was good and hot and included the typical Sauerbraten, Rotkohl and Knodel as well as other items which appeared later in the day. They had two types of mousse which were both very good.

Oh yes, the women... I had two sessions.

One with Mandy, 21, dark haired, tall, Ruhrgebiet. She was friendly enough during our conversation. She was pursuing an Ausbildung and only worked during weekends so she met my criteria for being a non-pro. She didn't allow certain things though. She covered her pussy with her hand so I wouldn't go down on her, z. B. I had a good time with her nonetheless. Yes, this is the same Mandy discussed below with a lip piercing.

My second session was with Maja, blonde, full figured, from Poland. I shouldn't have done this chick. I did sit with her for a bit and talk to her but she asked me quite quickly if we were going to a room. I said, I just wanted to talk first. She kind of implied that unless we were going to a room, she needed to keep the space on the couch beside her free. I returned after a bit and we retired into a Kuscheleck. It is then that it became clear to me that she had a routine and damn if she was going to break from the routine. She was difficult to manuever, wanted to do certain things her way.

I prefer women who are more spontan and just go with the flow. If I want do some heavy petting, why shouldn't that be allowed?

Afterwards she chose to ignore me when I passed her in the hallway or found her sitting on a couch.

Naja. Was kann man machen? I will not repeat with her.

Would I return? Yes. I always liked this club but my only motivation for returning would be in finding more of the talented amateurs I've met here before.

The one thing which has definitely changed here is the Abrechnung. Before you settled your bill just as you left. Nowadays, you have your session, she follows you to your locker and you settle with her right there.

A little more straightforward and there is no more risk of your having a billing dispute with her as you are ready to leave.

[Jackyo]

I visited Cocoon once in 2006 and didn't think it something special. Why not give at a 2nd chance in 2007. You probably know where this is heading, so I'll start with the positives. Happy hour entrance all day and free beer to be had (only you have to ask for it)! €25 per 20 minutes in private room including CBJ, but you pay extra for BBBJ.

You may think €25 is cheap for one pop, but you can only fuck one position if you choose 20 min. I actually asked in reception when leaving if this is a house rule. The answer: For 20 minutes you cannot expect a wedding night. OK I buy that as a fact, but what a tone and attitude towards a paying customer!

The place is as dark and shady as ever. There were about 13 girls present. Only, half of them were more suited for a parade of the walruses. At least not suitable for what I wanted in terms of slenderness.

The term FKK is questionable as many girls wrap themselves in a towel whenever they rise from the sofa. What some people may find positive is that some girls talk to clients afterwards too. In other words if a girl is good, she might be cock-blocked for a long time, meaning the available girls will be the least popular ones.

Three girls were good looking, but were they friendly? I admit, I was dealt a bad hand, and to that I played it miserably. While waiting for a long time for a "chosen girl" to become available, I eventually lost it and thought I'll take almost any chick just to avoid leaving without sex. Daniela, Polish, was reasonable good looking, and it seemed a former customer of hers was not completely unsatisfied. For me it was pure horror. A bad RLD experience at its worst. She wouldn't talk or anything, so I went for the 20 min option without extras to get it over with as quick as possible. I had doubts I would get the machinery up, and then finish. But I managed...


I wonder, is there really ANYTHING that separates Cocoon from RLD, except geographically? I think not! No eye candy, but very real possibility to have mechanical and uninspired sex like a bad PT-fuck. If you are a regular customer or find the right girl you will fare better - but that goes for any RLD.

Cocoon is cheap, but far, far from a bargain.

.. experience here.

I've had good luck at this club but its because I make it a point to spend time just talking on the couch first before committing.

I also avoid the bum's rush here by making it very clear to her from the beginning that I would prefer to do a double session so she isn't in a rush and doesn't think I'm being cheap.

Having said this, I also had the worst ever experience at an FKK club when I went with someone who I just had to meet but spent no time talking to before doing the dirty deed.

The owner does have a preference for women with curves. That is for sure. There aren't many skinny chicks here.. which is for the better as far as I am concerned as I don't like poking chicks with ribs showing, bony backs and asses aren't my thing. My best experiences are with women with some meat on their bones and enough padding that it feels like I'm floating on a cloud.

[Everhard]

I visited Cocoon once in 2006 and didn't think it something special. Why not give at a 2nd chance in 2007. You probably know where this is heading, so I'll start with the positives. Happy hour entrance all day and free beer to be had (only you have to ask for it)! €25 per 20 minutes in private room including CBJ, but you pay extra for BBBJ.

You may think €25 is cheap for one pop, but you can only fuck one position if you choose 20 min. I actually asked in reception when leaving if this is a house rule. The answer: For 20 minutes you cannot expect a wedding night. OK I buy that as a fact, but what a tone and attitude towards a paying customer!

The place is as dark and shady as ever. There were about 13 girls present. Only, half of them were more suited for a parade of the walruses. At least not suitable for what I wanted in terms of slenderness.

The term FKK is questionable as many girls wrap themselves in a towel whenever they rise from the sofa. What some people may find positive is that some girls talk to clients afterwards too. In other words if a girl is good, she might be cock-blocked for a long time, meaning the available girls will be the least popular ones.

Three girls were good looking, but were they friendly? I admit, I was dealt a bad hand, and to that I played it miserably. While waiting for a long time for a "chosen girl" to become available, I eventually lost it and thought I'll take almost any chick just to avoid leaving without sex. Daniela, Polish, was reasonable good looking, and it seemed a former customer of hers was not completely unsatisfied. For me it was pure horror. A bad RLD experience at its worst. She wouldn't talk or anything, so I went for the 20 min option without extras to get it over with as quick as possible. I had doubts I would get the machinery up, and then finish. But I managed...


I wonder, is there really ANYTHING that separates Cocoon from RLD, except geographically? I think not! No eye candy, but very real possibility to have mechanical and uninspired sex like a bad PT-fuck. If you are a regular customer or find the right girl you will fare better - but that goes for any RLD.

Cocoon is cheap, but far, far from a bargain.