SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Henio]

No problem! You pay what the Girls asks. Next time beacause now they have it hard to earn money try to go for less money!
It is most certainly not illegal.

Kind regards,
B30

nah, I never negotiate, never ask the price and just rely on the house guide and pay by that. Has served me fine in the past. I get enough negotiating girls in other markets so when in Germany I kind of want to keep just paying whatever is the "informal_nonrestrictive_house_rule_that_is_not_really_rule_because_it_is_illegal_to_set_the_prices_by_the_house" price :-)

[Big30]

few weeks ago did 90 minutes with Olga at GT and 90 minutes with Erica at LR. Payed 100€ both times. No complaints. I recon I owe them 25€ each? Do you know when aprox. did the 50/25/50/25/50....become the "not_to_ be_enforced_by club_because_it_is_illegal" price "informal guidance" rule?

No problem! You pay what the Girls asks. Next time beacause now they have it hard to earn money try to go for less money!
It is most certainly not illegal.

Kind regards,
B30

[Henio]

...In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule in NRW. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

few weeks ago did 90 minutes with Olga at GT and 90 minutes with Erica at LR. Payed 100€ both times. No complaints. I recon I owe them 25€ each? Do you know when aprox. did the 50/25/50/25/50....become the "not_to_ be_enforced_by club_because_it_is_illegal" price "informal guidance" rule?

[Akibono]

Made my debut at Living Room on Tuesday. What a disappointment!

I found the quality of the eye-candy to be a big let-down. I don't normally go for the scoring mechanisms that others use here, but I have to say that there were to my mind a severe paucity of 7's and 8's, and the vast majority booked a rating of 5 or lower in my book.

So much so that I couldn't find a single girl I wanted to fuck, and after the football I left.

Maybe I just turned up on a bad night, but I would rate this club some way below the other NWR places I've visited previously (Bernd's, Samya, GT).

Not a terribly helpful report I'm afraid, but I think I discovered an undervalued place at Dolce Vita later that evening - plz see report on that thread

Charlie

The lineup at LR can be pretty bad until night. Generally, the best girls do not show up until 7-8. Tuesday is probably a suboptimum time to visit.

[Charlie 123]

Made my debut at Living Room on Tuesday. What a disappointment!

I found the quality of the eye-candy to be a big let-down. I don't normally go for the scoring mechanisms that others use here, but I have to say that there were to my mind a severe paucity of 7's and 8's, and the vast majority booked a rating of 5 or lower in my book.

So much so that I couldn't find a single girl I wanted to fuck, and after the football I left.

Maybe I just turned up on a bad night, but I would rate this club some way below the other NWR places I've visited previously (Bernd's, Samya, GT).

Not a terribly helpful report I'm afraid, but I think I discovered an undervalued place at Dolce Vita later that evening - plz see report on that thread

Charlie

[Big30]

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule in NRW. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules. 50/50/50/50 is OK as long as girls inform you before making a room.

Friday I will see how Holland will beat Brasil. Yes in GT, the place to pay 60Euro/30m !

Big30

And Yes:

Sehr geehrte Herren,

die weiblichen Gäste sind ebenso selbständige Unternehmer wie die jeweils tätigen Masseure und bieten ihre Leistungen völlig eigenständig und auf eigene Rechnung an.

Die Zahlung der von den anwesenden Frauen in Anspruch genommenen Leistungen erfolgt ausschließlich an die jeweilige Dame Ihrer Wahl.

Insbesondere weisen wir darauf hin, dass mit dem Eintritt keine Leistungen der weiblichen Gäste bezahlt werden.

[Henio]

Polish Melissa was charging 50+50 (as far back as at least 2006) and was not informing clients before hand. Same with Regie around the same time, perhaps a bit later and she is Czeck.

Stop blaming Romanians for all bad things :-)

[Basketcase]

From what i can remember the 50-50 pricing started around june 2008, i think the Romanian girls started this trend. The first time i payed 50-25-50 was in october 2007 in GT.

Ascari,

You are not wrong. I do remember in 2008 that in Golden Time there were girls starting to charge 50 euro per half hour. Only a few but there were girls starting to do it. As you say it was the Romanian girls that come to mind mainly as the ones that were doing it. Romina (ro) and Antonia (ro) were two definite culprits in 2008. Ricarda (turkey) was another one from 2008 who charged 50+50+50+50. There was also murmurings in 2008 that come 2009 that the pricing at Golden Time would be standard 50+50+50+50 but this appears to be just the girls talking and colluding amongst themselves.

The only sauna club that I know doing 50+50+50+50 pricing in Nord Rhein Westfalen is Park Sauna Residenz. There may be others but that is all I know.

[Creature2]

Still Day 2

Living Room

After GT,
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and after a 30 min rides, we arrived easily at 11 pm to Living Room. The sound of high level of music was fulfiling the street. The club seems vivid from outside, even at that late night. We entered by paying 25 Euro and the discount card. Than downstairs to change. When I checked the club, I found that the premises was intact, no change since 2008, but the line-up was really amazing. This was a Thursday night, and there were more than 40 girls (young and restless) inside the club. There were mostly Romanian and Bulgarian but I saw a few Baltic (Russian, Latvian, Polish) girls as well (to my liking).

As this was late, I didn’t wanted wait too much. After some jacuzzi, I went to chat to a big Polish girl Jenny. She had another Polish girlfriend, which name escapes me, and she was even bigger than Jenny. Jenny was a blond from Wroclaw, she had decent English without accent. I asked what was the hourly rate, she says this is 75 Euro but she added they prefer to do only 30 min, it seems they find one hour too long for the bucks. Ok, we moved downstairs for a quick 30 min. The room downstairs was simple (on my previous visit, I went to a room upstairs with a lovely nice bed and four walls and the ceiling was covered by big mirrors). The French forumers says she was a bit distant in the room. I should agree, she didn’t kiss well, she didn’t fuck well, too. She said I am a bit tired and she can feel it. Maybe this was true. It was 2 am in the morning, I was still trying to fuck, even I didn’t sleep well the previous night. Of course, I couldn’t finish after 30 min with Jenny and the session with Jenny has nothing to write home about, except she is being an awesome blond Polish girl.

After the session, we stayed until 3 am, watching those Romanian tiny little babes and some super hot chicks going with the flow of the fast music, some of them were dancing topless and it was nice to watch how they move and rotate their young, cute bodies. They were really young and restless, very agile and energetic in this late night time. How do they found that energy, with spermas of male generations? Maybe it is much better to have the eye candy instead of going to a room with one of them, especially when you are tired, cause you miss the fun part of the atmosphere when you are in the room. Time to call it a night at 3 am, in Dusseldorf.

Next day, please, I need some rest, no more sessions just relax;
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[Ascari]

"Many" or "most" charging 50+50 is kind of ridiculous, but I have noticed more women charging 50+50 since December 09'. I do not mind paying the extra 25 euro for a super hot babe like Cheyenne (last year) or Carla, but some are really trying to get away with it. Denise (Romy) only charged 50+25 late last year, but now charges 50+25. Gave her 75 & she said "100." Rolled my eyes & told her "next time" & headed for the shower.

From what i can remember the 50-50 pricing started around june 2008, i think the Romanian girls started this trend. The first time i payed 50-25-50 was in october 2007 in GT.

[Big30]

You mean 50-25-50-25 is the current (yeah,we know, informal, girls are independent)rate at both GT an LR now? Since when?

Yes that is my point! Do not ask me since when! There was not an exact moment, so I cannot tell you.

B30

[Travelerb69]

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules.
Big30

You mean 50-25-50-25 is the current (yeah,we know, informal, girls are independent)rate at both GT an LR now? Since when?

[Big30]

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules. 50/50/50/50 is OK as long as girls inform you before making a room.

Last night I saw the Germany-Ghana game in PHG! Ciao!

Big30

[Vito Corleone]

From my experience in LR all girls I sessioned with charged 75 for the hour. Never met a 100 hour girl there, the same happened with all friends I was hanging around with.

From what I read here things might have changed recently because management has been trying to enforce the 75 for the hour price. This is second hand info, not sure about the present situation.

I have never met a 50+50 babe at LR, but I wonder if Romina & Cassandra are charging 50+50. I heard they were charging 50+50 at GT.

Management is really cracking down on the 50+50 girls. Carla & a hot German chick (forgot her name) practically begged me not to mention the pricing with management. I did not complain or raise an issue with the pricing, just shrugged my shoulders & said "100 an hour is fine" as I was sucking their perky tits. Both seemed a little paranoid as they made sure again as we were leaving the room to not make an issue with management. Sounds like their jobs might be on the line.

[Akibono]

Have to disagree on that one.I do not see a relation between better girls and prices at GT, regarding looks or performance.As just an example, German Lisa is a stunner, only gets good reviews(despite her "no kissing no pussy licking mantra" and charges 75, while on the other hand not so good looking and bad performers charge 100. It depends.

True that some girls charge 75 from old regular customers they already knew before they changed their price to 100, that's what they demand from "new" customers.

I don't have enough experience at LR to definitively say what the pricing is. However, at GT, until recently, alot of girls charge 50/30 minutes and a few will only do 30 minute sessions.

GT gets alot of regular customers. I can't see how a girl what charges more and gives bad service or looks bad will get many customers. Would you pay more and get less? I believe the law of supply and demand still holds true. Now, you may be as good looking or charming as Henio which may change the entire equation.