SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Sirioja]

Dutch Ice Bear forum writers are regular club-goers thought that occasionally get free club entries. But that fact is well known. So readers should take that into consideration, when reading.

Out of all the forums, Dutch board provides most informational value. Easy-to-find girls by name. I pulled up a translated report for a well-known LR girl, which I attached. Data is presented in tabular format: how much was paid, how many minutes in the room, services rendered. She got only 3 out of five stars. So not overly optimistic hyping. She has positive, negative, and neutral reviews from different reporters, so no obvious shilling.

Only subjective experience from a 50 € guy, not mine, even at kino for our first time, when Amira challenged me to fuck her in kino just before finishing her night, Amira is my only LR kino girl, when I waited with my past Eve for more than 2 hours a room on a Thursday evening and she preferred we don't go in kino, I'm not a kino guy because I know not the best place to get the best from girls, but even in kino, I foreplayed with Amira, I proposed her to extend to 1 hour and she accepted, I made her finish later than 2. 30 am when she was used to finish at 2 am. I returned to LR on 2 next week ends to repeat with Amira. At this time, on May 2016, if you treated her like a woman, not only a sexy doll, even she was only 20 yo, but a sensible little woman in a sexy, curvy, woman body. She did worth my 3 1 hour and 100 € rooms, I enjoyed with her, she can be really sweet in bed.

When a girl like Daria is so generous to give her best to anybody, like a social worker, you have to deserve Amira behavior with your behaviour with her.

That s why I don t care about others writings about girls, only if girls are working or not, because I know I m different and we get with girls from what we are for behavior with them. Even in brothels with prostitutes, my most enjoyable game is to reach the woman part hidden behind, with manners saving money, when girls work this job for money.

[BigBuddy69]

Actually that's pretty realistic for this girl. But usually only the first reporting customer makes this sedcard.

[Pistons]

What I meant is when you are far from your home 3 or 4 days every week, visiting FKK land, of course girls are the most important and I follow my good girls where they move, rather to be stuck to a club, but I don't fuck them all day and night for 3 or 4 days, so I like also to relax my mind, to watch my passions played on TV, to eat good and to drink hot chocolate, what are good clubs services for me, when I pay quite often about 200 for entry per week.

Since beginning of December, my most regular girl is my model escort. Met only on 2 first times in 2 clubs, and then in hotel or appartment, so, sometimes, before we meet, I go to a very quiet club, to eat, to rest, I don't even look at girls, because I know I will have long time sporty sex with her and we will finish exhausted. I just pay for club services.

I know. I am just having some fun with the red line here on the forum which is all about excessive sexism. Taking it a bit further just for the shits.

[McAdonis]

While many people on local boards definitely have their favorite clubs, they are voicing their own opinions. I've met about 80% of the people on ijsberen in real life. These are regular club goers.

Dutch Ice Bear forum writers are regular club-goers thought that occasionally get free club entries. But that fact is well known. So readers should take that into consideration, when reading.

Out of all the forums, Dutch board provides most informational value. Easy-to-find girls by name. I pulled up a translated report for a well-known LR girl, which I attached. Data is presented in tabular format: how much was paid, how many minutes in the room, services rendered. She got only 3 out of five stars. So not overly optimistic hyping. She has positive, negative, and neutral reviews from different reporters, so no obvious shilling.

[Sirioja]

Best wintersport to watch. Women's speed skating!

And you should know why.

Marrit Leenstra, Hege Bokko, Misaki Oshigiri or Elizaveta Kazelina for example.

What I meant is when you are far from your home 3 or 4 days every week, visiting FKK land, of course girls are the most important and I follow my good girls where they move, rather to be stuck to a club, but I don't fuck them all day and night for 3 or 4 days, so I like also to relax my mind, to watch my passions played on TV, to eat good and to drink hot chocolate, what are good clubs services for me, when I pay quite often about 200 € for entry per week.

Since beginning of December, my most regular girl is my model escort. Met only on 2 first times in 2 clubs, and then in hotel or appartment, so, sometimes, before we meet, I go to a very quiet club, to eat, to rest, I don't even look at girls, because I know I will have long time sporty sex with her and we will finish exhausted. I just pay for club services.

[PussyLiccker]

I've met a Dutch fellow at a club, and have a good reason to believe who he is on icebear forum. I also have a reason to believe his reporting wasn't completely true based on what he told me. I doubt that the individual reportings (at least most of them) are to promote specific clubs.

[Pistons]

http://vkka.xyz/people/38293916/#.

https://m.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/beauty/898465.html

[Pistons]

Can't go wrong with this!

[Pistons]

I m not interested by ski jump, too exclusive sport for me,

Best wintersport to watch. Women's speed skating!

And you should know why.

Marrit Leenstra, Hege Bokko, Misaki Oshigiri or Elizaveta Kazelina for example.

[Sirioja]

I've been a long time reader of the forum but only registered today. I was frustrated by the madness that has been reported since the New Year by many people, even though none have reported having been there. I have been there on multiple occasions and feel the need to clarify for fellow Bears who are considering a visit. I promise I will try to keep my posts specific to the club under which forum I'm writing.

First, yes the club closed after the control, but opened at 14:00 the following day and has been open all normal operating hours since.

Second, I have not seen a mass exodus of ladies from the club beyond normal rotation. Some favorites told me well before the holidays they would not be coming back after 1 Jan: Tina, Adelina, Rose, Ramona, Ina (who we all know by now has moved to GT). This does not signify the club is failing, just a natural rotation.

Third, the club has had fewer ladies during the holiday, but not less than normal over Christmas and New Year holidays. Coinciding with this, there have been less Bears competing for the dedicated ladies who worked throughout the holidays. Thank you fellow Bears for staying away because this has given me great access to some top women without wait times. There were about 30 women on Friday night, during the busiest part of the night I had a 10 minute wait for the room. Women I saw who I know by name in no particular order: Melissa, Christina, Ruby, Casey, Anna, Amalia, Olivia, Sophia, Nelly, Vicky, Katerina, Bianca, Mia and many more who slip my mind. I can highly recommend all of these women. They each bring their talents to the room. Of course YMMV. I've had no attempts to up sell for kissing or over charging for extras, nor have I heard that from any bears while I've been at the club. True, some ladies don't DFK and some don't offer everything all men desire, but never have I felt a lady has tried to take advantage of me at this club, which is not the case for the sister club and others. I've heard that even more women who haven't been seen since before the New Year will return this week after vacation and completing their registration. It is a shame to hear more than one top woman state that they fail to earn entry because the only bears present on some days are the domesticated house bears that only eat and drink.

LR was great GFE level for me, higher level than big Sharks or Oase, could compete with Globe, History Basel Liestal and Swiss Dietikon, for some LR girls level, only some girls at GT could compete, since September 2016 and in 2017, reason why I drove 1000 kms every weekend to visit. Except blonde with glasses Casey / Elli, Rose and Olivia, I don't know your other girls, never had room with Casey nor Rose nor Olivia I saw fucked at the bar, but had for many months my weekly favorites, only 1 per 1 because they didn't like I go with other girls.

Of course, I wish LR will stay on same GFE level for 2018, I know when passion for sex will become lower, even already 9 meetings in 1 month and half and next appointment to come, my jewel will understand one day she lose money with me, and I won't accept to pay her escort rate and extras now.

When I m a free bird following my best girls, I'm really surprised to meet locals very regulars who were weekly stuck to LR since years, at Sharks or GT, and I can only be happy for lovely Ina when I see her happy at GT, I don't forget our hot milk night, just like friends, laughing, she likes with honey, even we never had room. Gloria seems also happy to try YY. Lovely Ariana with glasses, who helped me on beginning of January 2017, is also at YY. I also saw German blond always full naked with small tits, Anabel back at GT. Girls seem happy when they can go to work at Vip GT, when LR became turkish crowded at night, since mid March 2017.

Anyway, I plan to return, of course when no ski World Cup races, nor Olympic games, I m not interested by ski jump, too exclusive sport for me, because LR is very low level to please clients who pay 60 , sometimes 120 € , on weekends for entry, about TV program, at noon when I was single under the tent, so no problem with any other client who wanted to watch Bundesliga at noon, no Bundesliga at noon, only replay. At Vip GT, they play what I ask, many guys, Germans and Netherlands, come to watch Formula 1 with me, guys look at me watching 30 racers on downhill for 1 h30 , before Bundesliga start. I also wish to have very hot water and very hot jacuzzi, I love cold weather, but I hate cold water. Fortunately, really nice girls on desk and bar, I like Monika even never knew her woking at GT.

Everywhere, good girls are more important than clubs for me.

[Free Dude]

While many people on local boards definitely have their favorite clubs, they are voicing their own opinions. I've met about 80% of the people on ijsberen in real life. These are regular club goers.

[Polyamorist]

The things that I mostly read on Dutch forums is bullshit and banter, they even have a special 'off-topic bullshit' thread for it now. It's more resembling advertising than a discussion forum with many active users, and it seems it's only a handful of the same people who are constantly repeating the same off-topic bullshit and desperately trying to pretend that everything is normal and what a jolly wonderful time they are having, without mentioning many specific details.

Hamdulillah NNC1701! I have been following the two big Dutch forums for years and your description of them is spot on.

The periodic reminder that "you can't believe everything you read on the Internet" is more relevant than ever in this era of fake news and corporate astroturfing. Is the sex industry immune? Hardly. When browsing a sex review site, nobody should abandon the assumptions that serve them so well looking at hotel review sites, product review sites, and movie review sites: I. E. That over half of what you read is disguised advertising (or sometimes simply noise to discourage real people from posting). Add the tendency of guys to brag about their conquests and hide their disappointments, and it's easy for a site to turn into its own parallel universe where the girls are all beautiful, the pussies always tight, and the cookies just like your mom used to bake them.

[Chongmal]

Anyone who has been at Livingroom on their parties before? Pondering about their Feb. 4th carnival party.

I was here for the Oktoberfest 2017 party. They were not happy with my request to use the discount card from the sister club against entry for a party. It was nice with special drinks, special music and extra bar staff. Like a busy nightclub with people dancing in the lounge area but without the hassle of trying to get a woman to go back to your place with you. There was a wait for the room of about one hour. I expect there could be some nice costumes for carnival. The ladies usually put forward a good effort for the parties.

[Chongmal]

I've been a long time reader of the forum but only registered today. I was frustrated by the madness that has been reported since the New Year by many people, even though none have reported having been there. I have been there on multiple occasions and feel the need to clarify for fellow Bears who are considering a visit. I promise I will try to keep my posts specific to the club under which forum I'm writing.

First, yes the club closed after the control, but opened at 14:00 the following day and has been open all normal operating hours since.

Second, I have not seen a mass exodus of ladies from the club beyond normal rotation. Some favorites told me well before the holidays they would not be coming back after 1 Jan: Tina, Adelina, Rose, Ramona, Ina (who we all know by now has moved to GT). This does not signify the club is failing, just a natural rotation.

Third, the club has had fewer ladies during the holiday, but not less than normal over Christmas and New Year holidays. Coinciding with this, there have been less Bears competing for the dedicated ladies who worked throughout the holidays. Thank you fellow Bears for staying away because this has given me great access to some top women without wait times. There were about 30 women on Friday night, during the busiest part of the night I had a 10 minute wait for the room. Women I saw who I know by name in no particular order: Melissa, Christina, Ruby, Casey, Anna, Amalia, Olivia, Sophia, Nelly, Vicky, Katerina, Bianca, Mia and many more who slip my mind. I can highly recommend all of these women. They each bring their talents to the room. Of course YMMV. I've had no attempts to up sell for kissing or over charging for extras, nor have I heard that from any bears while I've been at the club. True, some ladies don't DFK and some don't offer everything all men desire, but never have I felt a lady has tried to take advantage of me at this club, which is not the case for the sister club and others. I've heard that even more women who haven't been seen since before the New Year will return this week after vacation and completing their registration. It is a shame to hear more than one top woman state that they fail to earn entry because the only bears present on some days are the domesticated house bears that only eat and drink.

Lastly, status of the facilities. There have been some technical problems. There are problems with the hot water boilers, there was a major water leak that followed. The leak was fixed but boiler problems still haunt both the men and women. This happened quite some time ago but full repairs are in the works. I've been told the work to completely restore things to normal is extensive and is being planned for the least impact to business. It's nice that showers are included in the price of entry so we don't have to settle for washing our dicks in the sink. The women like when we smell fresh, even if it's just the complementary club soap slathered on our bodies and rinsed off with half warm water. The sauna has been a bit cooler my last couple visits but still warm enough to sweat a bit and the steam bath is on point. I don't use the jacuzzi but it's regularly occupied by bears and bubbles are coming from somewhere. The food is good enough to restore your strength for the next couple rooms. It's sometimes funny to watch the struggle by the women, sitting in next to nothing, trying to keep the sliding door and windows closed during these cold days while the bar staff opens them to dilute the smoke with fresh air, a couple air cleaners might be a great compromise. The tent is dry and warm enough but I'm not particularly fond of the seating arrangement, it's hard to watch the Bundesleague 2 Football Supporters vs Ski Jumping supporters boxing matches.

If you are thinking about a visit, don't stress, book your trip and come enjoy a really good club with great ladies. In my opinion the best GFE club with some PSE girlfriends. Just the way I like it, A little naughty with my nice and a little sweet with my spice.

[Pistons]

Karnaval party is on 8 February.

You are right. My bad. The 4th was back in 2016. They really need to update their website better, LOL.