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12-23-17 17:50 #3393Nobody said it's illegal. Maybe it's not very wise to do so. Most members here think it is wise to report about BBBJ and it will not have any effect. Maybe yes. Maybe no.
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12-23-17 17:42 #3392I hope I can make a helpful post Originally Posted by Jnpr30
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Dietzenbach club is taking all reasonable measures to ensure it complies with the law. So I think RN is correct about that.
If ISG members write about doing acts that are illegal then that is, I think not illegal.
The on going debate about the effect of such reporting has been continuous and ISG members are quite rightly ( for clarity here, I am saying members according to the forum rules are allowed to post as they wish on the relevant activities) making their own decisions on this
(My judgement is that reporting can only be deleterious, but others will say I am suffering an excess of extreme caution)
Whether what we write makes even the tiniest difference or not, only the long passage of time will tell. As you say, the raid at LR proves nothing, except that Police are aware of the law, and it seems they were on that occasion not trying to enforce its condom requirements
Cheers
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12-23-17 17:37 #3391Hi. You refer in replying to me as "comrade", apparently as an insult. Maybe you were erroneously thinking I was supporting the government. Just to be clear, as I have previously written many times, I am extremely concerned about the encroaching power of governments in the name (they say) of the public good. As another member, Horny Harry, frequently pointed out, look at Sweden and its path, now proposing criminalising its citizens who buy sex abroad and establishing a legal presumption of guilt of anyone accused of sexual harassment or [CodeWord123] Originally Posted by HungryStud101
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I was merely trying to say the German state was becoming more interventionist and describe what it saw as its rationale.
I hope that clears up any misunderstanding
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12-23-17 17:31 #3390People here wrote doing AO sex in Dietz. How is that complying with the law, assuming what the members reported is truthful. Originally Posted by RogueNation
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12-23-17 17:29 #3389
Sorry Pistons, you covered so many topics there that I am afraid it is impossible to have any meaningful debate. If you want to debate your philosophy on every topic from war to sex to religion to politics and polygamy dadada , it is easier to do one at a time.
As far as the proposal you make at the bottom. Sorry, can't accept, but if you feel strongly about it you should go ahead with it yourself. Solicitation is illegal where I live. Writing about BBBJ on ISG is not. In fact, discouraging other members from writing about BBBJ is against forum rules. In effect, by arguing that people should stop writing, you are flouting one forum rule here and when I object then you are asking me to commit another illegal act in my state. Not very logical.
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12-23-17 16:00 #3388In which way are LR and GT not complying with the law? Originally Posted by RogueNation
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12-23-17 13:56 #3387Sorry to repeat it again but the target of the police in not the condom, they don t care about it, this is just the cosmetic aspect of the law the real target is to reduce the offer and especially to force the girls to quit the scene and I believe it is already starting to work at least in the big club I am feeling that more and more girls are veteran prostitute moving from one club to another or country to another but I am not seeing many new young girls joining the clubs in the last 3 weeks. Let us see what will happen in January when many girls will have to come back to earn money now it is Christmas time. Originally Posted by Jnpr30
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12-23-17 13:06 #3386Again I am referred to as 'people'. Well then, the two of us will make this proposal: Originally Posted by Jnpr30
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Nothing is better than full freedom. Even allowing all sex acts. (Well duh). But the world is a place where you have to navigate other idiots with different meanings. Sometimes in higher up positions or who has lobbied the world into certain laws. And so the world turns into a police state because people feel they need help from society (ugly single people who don't like men or women to pay for sex). Or as I believe is the main reason: religions trying to win wars, so they make marriage important while we all are more or less polygamous. In such a world of corruption, believing that full freedom of speech is a 100% certainty in every situation is at worst idiocy and at best naive. Or if you disagree, I would advocate you to stand out in your local shopping mall with signs saying 'I love prostitutes', 'BJ for 50 $?' and 'the best form of international aid'.
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12-23-17 08:57 #3385Different states. Hessen vs NRW. Plus Dietzenbach is officially complying with the law, GT and LR are not. Originally Posted by Bitumen
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12-23-17 08:00 #3384
More often controls at GT and LR than in some other clubs around Dusseldorf, according to girls. LR was controlled at least 4 times in 2017, and for Christmas party.
Often drug controls with dogs at YY.
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12-23-17 06:07 #3383
Maybe the police learned that the club was putting "gegen Kondompflicht" papers in the lockers.
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12-23-17 05:39 #3382
Bitumen,
Yes, I agree with you. I know you have been saying for a while that it is still a bit premature and real impact could be felt after Jan 1, not necessarily in a draconian implementation by the police but impact on girls, attendance, registration problems etc.
Let's wait and see as you say.
I am also sorry PChew had to go through a harrowing time. A bit unnerving for anyone to be in that situation.
What I can never understand is the rush to tie any incident anywhere to the comments on ISG and trying to shut down freedom of writing. It's a bit funny for people to be lamenting about Gestapo tactics and then demand that members should shut up and stop writing (although the moderator has made it clear that any such discouragement from writing is against forum rules).
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12-23-17 05:22 #3381Sound logic: if a non AO but BBBJ club like Living Room is raided then why not an AO club like Dietz get raided? Originally Posted by Jnpr30
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I know the delay of 6 months is due to many of the States not knowing what to do with implementation of the new law.
For example, is checking for condom use the job of the health authority or the police? Who is going to teach the girls how to apply a condom? Sex education in schools or the nurse at the hospital or clinic?
Each State must come up with its way if implementation of the law. So there are delays and transition periods.
But correct your first point.
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12-23-17 04:47 #3380Yes, the police read the reports here and decided to raid. Very direct cause and effect link. Definitely. Originally Posted by Pistons
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Why not raid Dietz? There are dozens of reports of AO sex there.
It's been almost 6 months. There must have been at least a few million blow jobs given in all this time in all the clubs of Germany.
Even if only half were w / o condom, that's still in milllions. How many men were booked so far?
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12-23-17 03:19 #3379Ahhh yes. Government intervention for public good. I love big government. They can solve all our problems, right comrade? Intervention is intervention. Stay the fuck out of our lives! Originally Posted by Optimist
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